"What Madness Is This?" Volume II: Prophecies in the Dark

I would think about something like a video game where you are just one among millions and where you can make your own choices as the biggest advantage in my personal opinion is the deep lore and you would be able to use that by making something like a rpg. as for Nusa troops something like the aero force is going to have a major impact as in South America Bombing them is the most effective way you're going to "pacify" the population see probably seen more gaudy flare and drama from the sky boys with a giant ego
 
I think that it should also focus heavily on the black comedy elements. Think about how WH40k has lines like "One in two of our soldiers have been eviscerated by enemy troops. We still maintain numerical superiority."
 
RUMP Officer Dredd tracks his former colleague RUMP Officer Lex, who has snapped and turned to treason and heresy after his fluids proved insufficient to the task of enforcing the laws of the pinnacle man.
 

Rivercat893

Banned
I think that it should also focus heavily on the black comedy elements. Think about how WH40k has lines like "One in two of our soldiers have been eviscerated by enemy troops. We still maintain numerical superiority."
Well since my pitch of a WMIT Wattpad novel is basically a mashup of Fallout and WH40k, black comedy makes a lot of sense for the setting.
 
HOST possibly becomes the first spec-op force in the world, as well as adopts the woodland camo aesthetic before anyone else. They are a literal band of brothers even into more modern eras, with everyone still being a direct male descendent of the Blind Christian Gentleman. "No Brother Left Behind." I'm looking forward to writing more stuff about them.
In my humble opinion, the concept of HOST is among the most underrated ITTL. I've been attracted for a time in the exploration of what kind of personality, interactions, sense of humor, mindset, etc have a literal army of brothers whose identity consist on being the sons of a nymphomaniac fundamentalist medium and are trained since childhood to accomplish crusading missions as it's own special force. As far as I know, there has never been something like this IOTL. They are pretty exceptional guys in that regard.
 
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More progress on the 13th Mechanized. Lol I pitted them against a Worm creature for laughs, which the idea of is actually epic. Lmao I will eventually be gluing terrain textures to their bases, likely grass. Just a fun little project! They are still a WIP and subject to touching up before clear coat comes in.

And, noting their helmet graffiti, an interesting concept: I have already covered how Union officers take liberties with the uniform code to be as flashy or utilitarian as possible, mostly resulting in or worsening constant dick measuring contests. I realized the idea of ORRA shock troops and combat vets getting to graffiti their helmets with various symbols and words would function as a great morale boost to them. It would essentially serve the function of WWII Nose Art and D-Day Warpaint. The regular Army would of course wear official solid Olive Drab painted helmets and like it. Lol It would also further distance and snobbify the crazed ORRA radicals from their Army counterparts. And with the use of the gaudy striped armband even on their battle tunics would likely result in ORRA troopers saying "I wear my Eagle on my sleeve." Essentially mocking the Army for not wearing near-suicidal sniper pips for every Neutie with 1200 yards.
 
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What would the plot of that be? A mockumentary like CSA? Who would be sane enough in-universe to make it?
It would probably be (fictionally and ironically) made by the Irish, as they are probably unbiased in the history of the madness verse for the most part because they are ””””neutral”””” I think. If not, maybe it would be made by the Iranians.
 
I got it.

Ya boi walks into meet the gentlemen of the board of (insert any media company besides the M O U S E):

*ahem* *rolls down screen and film reel sounds*

"Lovecraftian SuperMormon Fallout with Victorian Sensibilities GrindhouseHammer 40k."

"In the coked-out, Cultist-infested, sideways-past-future of 1976, there is only the C H U C K Man and W O R M. And crippled religious tycoons getting tossed off zeppelins by their sons in what is most definitely not an expose of the author's personal feelings about his own childhood. Also, F L U I D S and P O C K E T B A C O N and C O N G O S E A."

Everyone in the room: "I have so many questions. None of them have sane answers. What madness is this?"

Me: "That's exactly what it is!" *Finger guns*


*Fifteen hours later*

"And THAT is when the President is visited by a possibly nonexistent alien space angel demonic entity that tells him to murder his son. Also, by the way, action figures! We're talking twelve-inch, six-inch, Aaron Burr plushies, the works. I want a Charles Goodyear blimp playset with bannister breaking action and maybe a Nerf contract to produce L I B E R T Y T O R C H E S. Anyway, now back to Billy Graham, future prophet and son of a warlock--" *gets shot by disgruntled executive*

I love this timeline. Lol
 
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What Madness is This is, in my opinion, as unmarketable as it is enjoyable. It's like an extreme version of the Paper's Please Problem where the premise is so off-putting most people wouldn't give it a try without some good coercion. I don't think you could make a WMIT TV show or movie though without either powerblasting basically everything that makes it good away so that it becomes socially acceptable, or stepping on too many toes that it would be strangled in production.

A book though, if you still consider making stories out of it Napoleon, would probably work. They'd add the ability to give more context to the universe, something you desperately would need. A video game, as mentioned upthread, might work too as it allows for more context and narrative, but I suspect it might run afoul of the Gamers meme and potentially suffer for it as well.

Anywho, 11/10 work, I've loved it. Thank you for bringing your dystopia to us. Sorry if I sound a bit like a downer, I just would hate to see WMIT getting mainstream attention for the wrong reasons.
 
My guess is WMIT would find success as a novel. Not copying and pasting the story down onto multiple books but something like “following a famous actor or normal soldier as the madness consumes them!” Then it has a chance at being made into a movie IMO. If you ever do release a novel or movie or video game I’ll definitely get it. I can see WMIT being made into a movie or published if it’s narrowed down to 1-5 characters. Since the TL is ridiculously complex the company would want you to tone it down a bit. Would it be controversial? Yes. Some would take it as anti-religion and others would find the atrocities detailed repulsive in a save the children kind of way. However controversial and dark media have became popular in the past and will in the future. I don’t think most people will mind the atrocities considering plenty of other books have detailed such atrocities. For example the Revelation Space Series detailed war crimes, the destruction of entire planets with 99% of the population being killed, and planets being burnt to a crisp. Not to mention films show people getting shot and tortured. So the violence wouldn’t create to much controversy. The people taking it as anti-religion would be kept small as the Lommies are atheists and still genocidal pricks who commit atrocities. Plus it isn’t hard to explain that it’s showing how dumb racism is as the main moral. And of course not committing mass genocide. Some could take it as anti-American due to the RU being all the worst aspects of America taken up to 59 (corruption, war crimes, genocide, slavery etc). With heroes and icons like JFK, Lincoln, Patton, Hamilton, Ford, and Roosevelt being either genocidal sociopaths, corrupt, or both. Of course that would most likely be a small crowd.

Anyways I can see WMIT becoming a book or a movie down the road (and I hope it does). The controversy it would generate would be small IMO. I could be wrong however. Either way I hope it goes into the mainstream. A WMIT book or media empire would be awesome. This is the best way to get my friend who hates alternate history to read it lol. (Have they ever read alternate history? No). Lmao the reaction would hilarious once they read about the Worm Cult and the C H U C K.

EDIT: To expand on the people thinking it would be anti-religion the reasons I think some people would view it that way is because of the AFC and lack of sane religion. Some people would take the message as “all religion leads to cults who commit mass murder.” The reasons people would view it as this is because they wouldn’t know that Napo is trying to create the worst plausible TL. People would view it as a broad condemnation of all religion instead of a condemnation of bigotry (which if there is a moral to the story I think it would be racism and bigotry is immoral). Mainly because there’s no sane religion. Of course the main atheists (the Illuminists) are also assholes and not much better than the AFC. The reason for there being no sane religion is because it’s a dystopia that shows the worst humanity. With the Loomies being the worst atheists can be and the RU being the worst of socialism and fascism and France being the worst Monarchists can be. I should note I don’t believe the core message is “all religion is bad” I’m just doing a thought experiment of what some controversy could be. I think it would still be popular amongst people who listen to the fact that it’s an insane dystopia. Probably good to just put in the description “author (Napoleon’s name) brings the worst of all plausible worlds.” In order to bring down the controversies before it starts. That said I think it could still make it as a book and later media franchise.

Being “anti-religious” isn’t controversial at all in Hollywood anyway. Hasn’t been for decades. Just look at Ricky Gervais.
 

Rivercat893

Banned
What Madness is This is, in my opinion, as unmarketable as it is enjoyable. It's like an extreme version of the Paper's Please Problem where the premise is so off-putting most people wouldn't give it a try without some good coercion. I don't think you could make a WMIT TV show or movie though without either powerblasting basically everything that makes it good away so that it becomes socially acceptable, or stepping on too many toes that it would be strangled in production.

A book though, if you still consider making stories out of it Napoleon, would probably work. They'd add the ability to give more context to the universe, something you desperately would need. A video game, as mentioned upthread, might work too as it allows for more context and narrative, but I suspect it might run afoul of the Gamers meme and potentially suffer for it as well.

Anywho, 11/10 work, I've loved it. Thank you for bringing your dystopia to us. Sorry if I sound a bit like a downer, I just would hate to see WMIT getting mainstream attention for the wrong reasons.
Books are the best option.
 
What Madness is This is, in my opinion, as unmarketable as it is enjoyable. It's like an extreme version of the Paper's Please Problem where the premise is so off-putting most people wouldn't give it a try without some good coercion. I don't think you could make a WMIT TV show or movie though without either powerblasting basically everything that makes it good away so that it becomes socially acceptable, or stepping on too many toes that it would be strangled in production.

A book though, if you still consider making stories out of it Napoleon, would probably work. They'd add the ability to give more context to the universe, something you desperately would need. A video game, as mentioned upthread, might work too as it allows for more context and narrative, but I suspect it might run afoul of the Gamers meme and potentially suffer for it as well.

Anywho, 11/10 work, I've loved it. Thank you for bringing your dystopia to us. Sorry if I sound a bit like a downer, I just would hate to see WMIT getting mainstream attention for the wrong reasons.
The greatest risk about publishing a story/making a movie/TV show in the WMiT universe isn't those who don't like it, It will be those who enjoy it for the wrong reasons.

WMiT becoming widely appreciated outside of alternatehistory.net runs a huge risk of drawing in the people who enjoy it because America has turned into a theocracy, enjoy it because the Mexicans have been immolated, enjoy it because everyone not classically "American" are classified as inferior, who will view it unironically, who will take the memes seriously.

After all, the song "the future belongs to us" in American History X has been coopted by actual neo-Nazis. If this world becomes widely popular outside this board I can almost guarantee it will be coopted as a modern age Turner Diaries unless its done VERY carefully.

I agree any attempt to take this mainstream would have the best parts of the irony and horror of the TL sandblasted out, but without that sandblasting I shudder to think the people who would latch on to it otherwise.
 

Rivercat893

Banned
The greatest risk about publishing a story/making a movie/TV show in the WMiT universe isn't those who don't like it, It will be those who enjoy it for the wrong reasons.

WMiT becoming widely appreciated outside of alternatehistory.net runs a huge risk of drawing in the people who enjoy it because America has turned into a theocracy, enjoy it because the Mexicans have been immolated, enjoy it because everyone not classically "American" are classified as inferior, who will view it unironically, who will take the memes seriously.

After all, the song "the future belongs to us" in American History X has been coopted by actual neo-Nazis. If this world becomes widely popular outside this board I can almost guarantee it will be coopted as a modern age Turner Diaries unless its done VERY carefully.

I agree any attempt to take this mainstream would have the best parts of the irony and horror of the TL sandblasted out, but without that sandblasting I shudder to think the people who would latch on to it otherwise.
If we're going to publish it on say Wattpad or a big-name publisher then it should be a satirical black comedy.
 
That could really make any WMIT novel appealing to a mainstream audience especially since people sometimes like to laugh at really messed up stuff.
Hell that's what I enjoy about it. If Man in the High Castle had been made with the same tone as The Death of Stalin that's how I imagine a Madness series would look.
 
The greatest risk about publishing a story/making a movie/TV show in the WMiT universe isn't those who don't like it, It will be those who enjoy it for the wrong reasons.

WMiT becoming widely appreciated outside of alternatehistory.net runs a huge risk of drawing in the people who enjoy it because America has turned into a theocracy, enjoy it because the Mexicans have been immolated, enjoy it because everyone not classically "American" are classified as inferior, who will view it unironically, who will take the memes seriously.

After all, the song "the future belongs to us" in American History X has been coopted by actual neo-Nazis. If this world becomes widely popular outside this board I can almost guarantee it will be coopted as a modern age Turner Diaries unless its done VERY carefully.

I agree any attempt to take this mainstream would have the best parts of the irony and horror of the TL sandblasted out, but without that sandblasting I shudder to think the people who would latch on to it otherwise.
I extremely doubt that Nazis would want wmit as for the simple fact that Jews and people of African American descent are treated as equals Irish and slavic people are seen as inferior it's an entirely different type of racism that Nazis would hate because they're the ones who would be seen as lesser instead of the "UberWurst" that they see themselves as so I don't think Nazis are going to co-opt it
 
I extremely doubt that Nazis would want wmit as for the simple fact that Jews and people of African American descent are treated as equals Irish and slavic people are seen as inferior it's an entirely different type of racism that Nazis would hate because they're the ones who would be seen as lesser instead of the "UberWurst" that they see themselves as so I don't think Nazis are going to co-opt it

At the risk of crossing lines regarding commentary, I think you would be more likely to have issues with Dominionist types, who can get scarily close to this TL. There was a rally in DC this past weekend featuring both White and Black pastors of this type alongside Jews, and one guy literally said "Hallelujah is just American for Praise the Lord."
 
The greatest risk about publishing a story/making a movie/TV show in the WMiT universe isn't those who don't like it, It will be those who enjoy it for the wrong reasons.

WMiT becoming widely appreciated outside of alternatehistory.net runs a huge risk of drawing in the people who enjoy it because America has turned into a theocracy, enjoy it because the Mexicans have been immolated, enjoy it because everyone not classically "American" are classified as inferior, who will view it unironically, who will take the memes seriously.

After all, the song "the future belongs to us" in American History X has been coopted by actual neo-Nazis. If this world becomes widely popular outside this board I can almost guarantee it will be coopted as a modern age Turner Diaries unless its done VERY carefully.

I agree any attempt to take this mainstream would have the best parts of the irony and horror of the TL sandblasted out, but without that sandblasting I shudder to think the people who would latch on to it otherwise.
That could be a problem too, although I do think having a story where the Jewish characters/people are being treated as "Betters" would send them into convulsions and drive them away. Like how AFAIK, no neo-Confederates liked Timeline 191, it just doesn't portray the movement to their desires. I personally would be concerned with the reaction to media like the Joker movie or the Confederate alt-history TV show where it seemed, for a time at least, people and a lot of news outlets really latched onto them as being objectionable for one reason or another, whether justified or not. The Confederate show got canceled because of the backlash and while Joker didn't I do think WMIT's reception would be harmed from receiving such backlash; I just feel like something that would drive the largest numbers of the types of people you've mentioned to WMIT would be such a rejection by the mainstream audiences and media.
 
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