What if Queen Victoria had married Marthinus Wessel Pretorius instead of Prince Albert?

So do we all, but they didn't understand it as well as we do now back then. And the Queen Mother was suitable to be Duchess of York, not Queen. No one expected the Abdication Crisis when Bertie and Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon married in 1923. Had Bertie been the heir to the throne at the time of his marriage, you can be damn well sure he'd have married a foreign Princess, not a Scottish Earl's daughter.
Even with George Vs whole push to allow his kids to marry who they wanted and to remove the accusation the royals were Germans?
 
Ethnically they are Dutch, but in a language that is different from Dutch


Remember that Holland was very sympathetic to the Boers


They intended to ally with Germany because of their anger at the actions of the British


The Dutch Prince can become the Church of England
No, Afrikaners/Boers are their own ethnic group. Calling them Dutch is like calling the Dutch Germans.
They weren’t especially closely related, the genetic risk for their children were marginal larger than if she had married some random person.
Albert and Victoria were first cousins
 
No, Afrikaners/Boers are their own ethnic group. Calling them Dutch is like calling the Dutch Germans.

Albert and Victoria were first cousins
They are the descendants of Dutch immigrants, and their language is close to Dutch


Do we consider white Americans a single ethnic group? no, they're not
 
Hey - I'll create a scenario where this happens... (Whee!)

The Great Reform Bill fails. Riots and disorders ensue, in the course of which William IV dies (arson fires in London spread to Buckingham Palace; William dies by accident). The Duke of Cumberland takes over as Regent for his niece Victoria, and brutally suppresses the unrest, re-asserting Crown authority with the backing of extreme Tories. Britain becomes a quasi-police state; vast numbers of dissenters are transported to Australia.

Britain responds to the Canadian rebellions of 1837-1838 with similar measures. Slavery is not abolished in the West Indies.

Victoria reaches her majority, but remains dominated by Cumberland and his allies. By arrangement, she marries Prince William Frederick Henry (third son of King William II of the Netherlands) who shares the reactionary views of Cumberland's clique.

During the 1840s, the government responds to the Great Famine with repression and mass deportation of "surplus" Irish to Canada and Australia.

By the late 1840s, Britain is a powder keg of discontent, which explodes during the revolutions of 1848. Victoria and Prince William flee the country as the Republic of Britain abolishes monarchy and aristocracy. Many notorious "aristos" are summarily executed for complicity in various crimes of the old regime. The revolution spreads to Canada, Australia, and the West Indies. With all Europe in convulsions, the royal couple flee to South Africa.

The Republic demands the submission of Cape Colony to its rule, and the return of the royals to Britain "to face justice". At Prince William Frederick's suggestion, they flee to the Dutch-speaking settlements in the interior. Victoria even learns Dutch, to better "pass" in the settlements. (As she already speaks German, this is not difficult.) Six months later, William Frederick dies of typhoid.

The widowed Victoria meets Pretorius; they hit it off and marry. Ta-daa!!!!

Epilogue: The Republic decides that having gone off into remote wilderness, Victoria is irrelevant, and they forget about her. They really wanted William Frederick (for actions taken in 1848), but he's dead and Victoria is thought of as a powerless female.
Very enjoyable writeup! Although I broadly agree that this idea wouldn't work in a history where the British monarchy is at the height of its prestige, it's interesting to think about how a marriage like this could happen in radically different circumstances.
 
Albert and Victoria were first cousins

Like I said they were not especially closely related and their children only had a marginal larger risk for birth defects. Marriage between first cousins only increase the chance of defect marginal, it’s only through continued intermarriage between generations of cousins you see the risk increasing. The Saxe-Gotha and Gotha and Hanover were not two families who intermarried often. Honestly with the rareness of birth defect in European royalty the whole meme about them being especially inbreed should pretty much die, a few families suffered from inbreeding primarily Catholic royalty in the 16-17th century, but most were likely less inbreed than the vast majority of people in history.
 
Or, as he was known when he married the Queen, Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten, technically a commoner.
No, he wasn't. He was a royal, a royal in name only until he married Elizabeth but still a royal. Also by the time the Queen got married there was the precedent of her parents, plus Princess Louise and one of Edward VII's daughters marrying British noblemen. That wasn't the case when Victoria was single.
 
They are the descendants of Dutch immigrants, and their language is close to Dutch


Do we consider white Americans a single ethnic group? no, they're not
Because white Americans have a variety of origins, are not a homogenized mix like Afrikaners, many different religions. All Afrikaners are historically members of a Dutch Reformed Church, with roots in the Dutch Cape Colony, a mix of Dutch, German, and French Huguenot with other minor components. Most white Americans are the descendants of recent immigrants and have no real ties to North America, the way Afrikaners are deeply rooted in and tied to South Africa. Pennsylvania Dutch, Amish, Cajuns, even Mormons could be considered ethnic groups.
Like I said they were not especially closely related and their children only had a marginal larger risk for birth defects. Marriage between first cousins only increase the chance of defect marginal, it’s only through continued intermarriage between generations of cousins you see the risk increasing. The Saxe-Gotha and Gotha and Hanover were not two families who intermarried often. Honestly with the rareness of birth defect in European royalty the whole meme about them being especially inbreed should pretty much die, a few families suffered from inbreeding primarily Catholic royalty in the 16-17th century, but most were likely less inbreed than the vast majority of people in history.
Marriage between first cousins is icky and weird. I would never marry even my second cousin.
No, he wasn't. He was a royal, a royal in name only until he married Elizabeth but still a royal. Also by the time the Queen got married there was the precedent of her parents, plus Princess Louise and one of Edward VII's daughters marrying British noblemen. That wasn't the case when Victoria was single.
For almost 9 months in 1947, he was legally a commoner. The day before his wedding, he was knighted and made a Royal Highness. The same could have been done for Pretorius.
 
I agree with the consensus that having Pretorius, Mary Queen Victoria instead of Albert is pretty much impossible short of the scenario outlined where the British monarchy loses all prestige and power.

However I could potentially see with a bit of a stretch (very unlikely but not ASB) scenario where Queen Victoria marries Pretorius as well as Albert.

The biggest change you need here is actually rapprochement between the British and the Boers, I'm thinking this can probably be managed through heavy butterfly effect, some deft diplomacy, and lets says some enemies of the British, sponsoring native groups in the region (pushing the Boers into the arms of the British). The key point here is as early as possible making the Boers, be seen as loyal citizens of the Empire.

Meanwhile Victoria marries Albert and Albert dies pretty much on schedule, while Pretorius instead of making his career as a domestic politician finds himself sent to London to advocate for the Boers within the framework of the Empire (having spent most of his adult life onside with the British). He is knighted (at least I feel a peerage is probably hard to achieve in the period for a colonial figure but maybe we can have him do particularly well in some important colonial war if he can be made Lord this makes the next stage much easier), and is generally seen as a respected figure in the establishment, to a degree anglicized (ideally converts to the Church of England but this isn't absolutely necessary) and he also manages to develops a friendship with the Prince of Wales (they go to the same club).

Meanwhile Queen Victoria goes into one of her phases of being very interested in her colonies and invites him to tell her more about South Africa he briefs her on the colony and from this, he slowly develops into a favourite/close confidant. During this period his wife tragically dies relatively young (although by this point he's comfortably into middle age). The now widower Pretorius and widow Victoria continue to spend more and more time together and the friendship slowly starts to develop into something more.

Victoria now at the height of her soft power, decides she would like to remarry to Pretorius. They are both widowed so this doesn't cause any issues for the Church of England, and Victoria is by this point well past menopause so there's no chance of any insufficiently Royal heirs causing difficulty so especially given the Prince of Wales is on quite good terms with Pretorius (and in fact suspect this may be a good way to curtail some of his frustrations with his mother), while this causes some scandal and pearl clutching among the British aristocracy it does eventually go ahead. The two of them live out a happy semi retirement until Pretorius's death.

This help to solidify South Africa's loyalty to the Empire (which was already in a pretty strong place in this timeline) and in general also increasingly normalises the intermingling of British aristocracy and colonial elites.
 
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