Well, to be honest, to me, the scene read as a kick in the gut.
I can't imagine how bad David must feel right now.
Yeah, like I said, Moral Event Horizon at Mach 10. Every (non-Muslim) Greek in the city would also be outraged as well, as their city had not only been conquered by an infidel enemy, said infidel enemy had then blown up their holy sites on their way out. The sheer level of anger among them would be equivalent to birch-bark drenched in gasoline.
Given that it was a perfidious act, there is only one way to make Osman pay, unfortunately for him though that hatred won't disappear that easily.
Considering what the turks and muslims did to Constantinople of this ttl, I wouldn't surprised if they virtually kill all and any of muslims they find.
There may be a better way to punish this act of treachery, but the people are at shock. If David doesn't act the way the people want especially at this treacherous perfidious act , then he would lose all their support.
The people will demand blood, and I can see that David will all to be happy to give it. He's already paranoid and this is the last straw against the turks.
Again, you've more or less called it. There's the problem of 'crimes against God and man' up front, followed by the whole 'Turkish pseudo-vassal state under Kadir' problem that the massive shift in public opinion would cause.
I understand it was mostly to create turmoil in Rum
Even if the Byzantines aren't the ones who end their existence.
Rip to the house of osman, the byzantines must be catonic rn
'Apoplectic' would be more accurate by this point.
Byzantium, Costantinople, Tsarigrad, Istanbul, Davidpole.
Plsdontbanmeoupoli coming up soon.
now i am just imagining a new epic about exiled turks from the former Ottoman Empire finding glory somewhere else building a greater turkish based empire than even the Ottomans. I know the focus in this TL is on the Trapuzentines, but still, that would be pretty awesome, like a new underdog story
That'll actually be pretty big soon, as the refugees and mercenaries that flee to the rest of the Islamic world will hold an undying (heh) hatred of the Undying Empire, the sort of slow-burning ethnic hatred that even the Maniotes would consider extreme. Also, in the fantasy book I'm writing in a similar setting features a number of pseudo-Ottoman exile characters.
Gonna survive the onslaught of angry christians first though the sultan breaking his word have consequences…
He basically gave a casus belli to every christian to attack him for simple vengeance
Not really, actually. There's two problems with that: Firstly, the Orthodox are rather against crusading. David is the exception in terms of bloody-minded religious warfare, although the destruction of the Hagia Sophia might change that. Secondly, Latin crusaders will be in short supply because of the chaos that's unfolding in the west. I mean, when an army of heretics has Milan under siege, Constantinople takes the back seat in terms of crusading.
They were screwed either way once they are limited to only a small part of Anatolia.Doing this at the very least gives them a chance of victory and let die them die in a blaze of glory.
Pretty much what Osman was thinking.
That would be good incentive to lay low and pounce when the rulers get weak no? That's basically how the Ottomans rose up in the first place. Osman I's family had been a family of persecuted turkic Muslim minor nobles.
The Ottomans were able to rise in the chaos that gripped western Anatolia in the 13th and 14th centuries. The problem with doing that again is the lack of enemies to play off each other: The Rumites want their land, the Romans and Moreotes want to kill them and dance a jig over their corpse, and the internal chaos caused by refugees makes them more likely to collapse into anarchy than use it as a ladder.
Technically genocide at those times wasn't possible in the short-term and needs more planning due to less resources.
I also doubt the voice of Megli would go for that option in any case due to it being a waste of resources, time and effort. More likely a big counter from the Trapezuntians but not much after that.
To the update. Nice twist there now Shkoze is inside the CIty and could turn on the Trapezuntians which would make the situation a battle royal, royal City and royal throne huh it fits! I 'd rather him not to really as his position is not that secure with all the crusaders being influenced by David or bought by him and attacking a fellow christian is another matter altogether.
Could David be a new Justinian? In the building and law matters anyway cause I don't see him conquering Italy any time soon
. To manage a rebuilding he needs a lot of time in peace and to siphon every penny around his Empire which could lead to some but situations. Also Constantinople needs a population injection and I don't know where those people will come from, I mean obviously from the Trapezountian heartland but that would leave the are underpopulated and decrease its defensive capabilities. Westerners could be invited to revive the Latin quarter of old but having a lot of them is a double-edge sword , like the eagle in the banners ok I'll stop the puns.
Very dramatic way to end a book. We have made the awaited reconquest and now we need to consolidate and keeps them. O STAVROS NIKA!!!
1. Genocide was very much possible, especially if a ruler had the means, motive and utter lack of scruples needed to do it. Timur killed something like three-fourths of all Assyrians, so many that their numbers today
haven't recovered. David won't do it, though, both because of Mgeli and because of the practicality of the issue. He's crazy, not stupid.
2. Ye shall see.
3. Depending on certain factors which might spoil the plot, David could
become Justinian 2 (wait...), although as he spirals downward the periods of peace needed for such a legacy will be...hard to come by.
4. Thanks, I'm afraid it's not entirely mine. Inspiration came from Napoleon (2002)
, a miniseries whose third episodes ends with Napoleon staring into the camera as it zooms out to show Moscow burning around him.