The Camelot King and His Pomegranate Queen - A Collaborative Timeline

[EdwardRex]

Arthur, Prince of Wales around 1502

April 1502: King Henry VII holds a celebratory feast for the recovery of his son and heir, Arthur, Prince of Wales, and his bride, Catherine of Aragon, from the mysterious sweating sickness. He also invites Arthur and Catherine back to court and sends workman to work on a new, modernized wing of Ludlow Castle.

July 1502: Arthur, Prince of Wales announces his wife’s first pregnancy, much to the joy of the Tudor family, particularly Elizabeth of York, who is eager to have a grandchild after she had a rather serious miscarriage in June. Luckily, Elizabeth has recovered and can attend the celebrations, but physicians believe she will never bear another child.

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2. No contradicting previous posts.
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[RedKing]

August 1502: Henry VII celebrates the news of his daughter in law’s pregnancy by holding a jousting tournament in London as well as a feast. He gifts his son and daughter jewels and writes to them regularly, wanting to know every detail of the pregnancy. Henry’s Queen, Elizabeth also writes to Arthur and Katherine, guiding them through the pregnancy.

October 1502: Henry VII secures the betrothal of his spare, Henry, Duke of York to the French Princess Margaret of Angouleme, in a bid to bring the English and French nations closer together. That same month, Henry writes to congratulate the French King, Louis XII on the news of his wife’s pregnancy. Louis prays for a son so that he will finally have an heir of his own body. He also bounces around a betrothal between a Dauphin of his and a daughter of Philip of Burgundy.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

January 1503: To Elizabeth's surprise, she is pregnant again. She goes into confinement earlier than normal so as to care for the unborn child. Katherine gives birth to healthy twin daughters named Elizabeth and Mary, and the godmothers are the princesses' paternal aunts: Margaret and Mary Tudor. Margaret is shipped off to marry James IV of Scotland. Henry VII orders a chapel to be built to celebrate such happy times.
February 1503: Margaret of Angouleme arrives in England. She enchants the English royals with her beauty and eloquence, and Henry of York in particular is smitten with her. Katherine, for her part, is just happy to find another person to practice her French with. Louis XII's wife, Anne of Brittany, gives birth to a son christened Francis after her father.

 

[EdwardRex]

January 1503: To Elizabeth's surprise, she is pregnant again. She goes into confinement earlier than normal so as to care for the unborn child. Katherine gives birth to healthy twin daughters named Isabella and Maria, and the godmothers are the princesses' paternal aunts: Margaret and Mary Tudor. Margaret is shipped off to marry James IV of Scotland. Henry VII orders a chapel to be built to celebrate such happy times.
February 1503: Margaret of Angouleme arrives in England. She enchants the English royals with her beauty and eloquence, and Henry in particular is smitten with her. Katherine, for her part, is just happy to find another person to practice her French with. Louis XII's wife, Anne of Brittany, gives birth to a son christened Francis after her father.

Great chapter! Though I will say the children would be Elizabeth and Mary, because those are the English forms of the name.

 

[pandizzy]

Great chapter! Though I will say the children would be Elizabeth and Mary, because those are the English forms of the name.

I agree.

I'm also very tempted to write a chapter where some important characters die, but I won't.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Great chapter! Though I will say the children would be Elizabeth and Mary, because those are the English forms of the name.

Ah true...I will change it. Thank you

 

[EdwardRex]

Bumping

 

[Fergie11]

March 1503: On the 10th of March, Princess Joanna of Asturias goes into labour, emerging with a healthy baby girl who would be named Mary for her aunt, the Queen of Portugal. The joy following the birth of the Infanta/Archduchess would be short lived for on the 24th of March, her father the Duke of Burgundy would succumb to illness he had developed upon returning to Flanders, leaving his 3 year old son as Duke of Burgundy.

October 1503: Portugal would welcome their own little Infanta that year too, with Isabella of Portugal being born on the 24th. Upon hearing the news from Portugal, Catherine of Aragon began to think of her own daughter's futures, perhaps one of her girls could marry the Prince of Portugal or the Duke of Burgundy. The miracle of life would bless the English royal family again on the 30th of the month, when Queen Elizabeth of York gave birth to a baby boy she named Edward for her father.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Philip of Burgundy dying earlier and therefore Ferdinand, Catherine etc don't exist? Interesting.

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November 1503: The king's mother, Lady Margaret Beaufort, falls ill. Henry VII does all he can to save her life. Henry and Margaret of Angouleme officially marry, though they do not yet consummate this union

 

[Fergie11]

Yes, and Ferdinand will be much more pleased now that his hated son-in-law can't succeed his wife

 

[Kynan]

November - December, 1503: James IV of Scotland is dead. No one is quite sure what happened, except that either he’s fallen from his horse while hunting, or he was pushed while celebrating his marriage. Margaret Tudor, a teenager in a foreign land who can attest that she’s definitely not a virgin but also definitely not pregnant, is suddenly left vulnerable. The new James V of Scotland certainly assumes he can just pick up when his brother left off. Margaret writes and begs for her father to save her. But he’s plotting.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

January 1504: Lady Margaret Beaufort dies from her illness. She is accorded a lavish funeral. Margaret Tudor is in talks to remarry to the new James V, so as to keep the dowry with Scotland. The Scottish king argues with Henry VII over matters of her dowry and he refuses to return it. Katherine of Aragon is pregnant again, as is Elizabeth of York.
February 1504: Christ's College, Cambridge receives a royal charter as according to the last will of the king's mother, and St John's College is founded. Henry VII signs a treaty that allies England with Burgundy and the Habsburgs. Edmund de la Pole is arrested and brought to the tower of London, but Henry is careful to maintain transparency about what is going on in that tower, knowing what happened to his wife's brothers.
April 1504: Margaret of Angouleme is made ambassador of France, so as to allow her to stay in England despite her youth. She joins her husband in their education with leading tutors. Margaret Tudor writes to her father about her grief and homesickness, and he creates her ambassador of England, copying the move of Louis XII.
October 1504: Katherine gives birth to a son named Arthur after his father. His uncle, Henry of York is godfather. The young duke was said to be utterly enchanted with the child, spending hours singing to him, despite the fact that his birth meant he would now never be king. The couple celebrate with dances and jousts. Elizabeth of York miscarries her child but she pulls through and doesn't die. While the queen is grieving for the loss of her son and mother-in-law, she dotes upon her grandson who adores her.
November 1504: Joanna, Princess of Asturias is crowned the queen of Castile upon the death of her mother, Isabella. Unfortunately this brings her into conflict with her father, who wishes to keep power for himself. Anne of Brittany announces that she is pregnant again, to France's great joy.
January 1505: While Joanna of Castile travels to England to visit her sister, Ferdinand II of Aragon dies after being accosted by angry Castilian noblemen. Joanna is now also queen of Aragon. Mary Tudor, daughter of Henry VII is in talks to be betrothed to Joanna's son, the duke of Burgundy, Charles. The queen of Castile and Aragon stays in England for the entirety of 1505.

 

[Cate13]

April 1504: Margaret of Angouleme is made ambassador of France, so as to allow her to stay in England despite her youth. She joins her husband in their education with leading tutors. Margaret Tudor writes to her father about her grief and homesickness, and he creates her ambassador of England, copying the move of Louis XII.

Why would Margaret need to be ambassador?

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Why would Margaret need to be ambassador?

So she can stay in Scotland.
IOTL, Ferdinand II of Aragon did this so that his daughter, Katherine could stay in England.

 

[Kynan]

So she can stay in Scotland.
IOTL, Ferdinand II of Aragon did this so that his daughter, Katherine could stay in England.

But why would Marguerite d’Angouleme, who is currently Duchess of York even if she’s 12, need an excuse to remain in England? She’s already there. I can almost see the logic for Margaret Tudor, but also she’s Queen Dowager and there’s no reason for her to leave in theory so I don’t quite understand that either. Katherine became the ambassador for two reasons: it gave an excuse for her financial needs to be met, and there was a big hole that Ferdinand needed to fill. Making his daughter the ambassador was the cheapest of all options.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

But why would Marguerite d’Angouleme, who is currently Duchess of York even if she’s 12, need an excuse to remain in England? She’s already there. I can almost see the logic for Margaret Tudor, but also she’s Queen Dowager and there’s no reason for her to leave in theory so I don’t quite understand that either. Katherine became the ambassador for two reasons: it gave an excuse for her financial needs to be met, and there was a big hole that Ferdinand needed to fill. Making his daughter the ambassador was the cheapest of all options.

A big hole for what to be filled?
Also both Margaret's are young women in foreign countries without a lot of recourse so this is one way they can be provided for, no?
I can change that if you prefer though

 

[Kynan]

January, 1505: Katherine of Aragon gives birth to a second son, named William, who dies a week after his birth. Devastated, she draws further into the Church.

February, 1505: Having been granted a dispensation by the Pope, and despite Henry VII’s quibbling over the dowry, James V of Scotland marries the Queen Dowager of Scotland in a rushed and secret ceremony. Margaret Tudor relates the story to her brother succinctly: “he came to me during supper, we met with the Duke of Ross, a knight named Patrick and his wife, Euphemia, and the bishop, and were wed in short order”. Some relayed the story as her food still being warm by the time they returned to her rooms. The new King, not quite as lusty as his brother had been, waits a week to consummate the marriage, fearing the consequences of his actions. But what’s done is done, and Duke John Stewart of Ross is given the task of representing his brother in England to soften the blow. The fact that the King knows his brother will be likely imprisoned for being the messenger seems to sweeten the deal, and John gets to feel important for a few weeks.

The English court is less furious than it is confused.

Henry VII asks the Scottish Ambassador why the marriage was rushed through, and rumours spread Margaret Tudor is already pregnant (she’s not), but the biggest reaction is from Elizabeth of York. She’s still recovering from her last pregnancy and had looked forward to even a few weeks being reunited with her daughter. But instead, everything is moving too fast. In a move that’s probably the most shocking in her life, she refuses to speak to Duke John when he arrives, more does she agree to mention her daughter in public. The most she says for a while is “she is well”.

April, 1505: Bianca Maria Sforza, pregnant but not hopeful that she’ll see a live child, gives birth to a surprisingly healthy daughter, named Eleanor.

 

[Kynan]

A big hole for what to be filled?
Also both Margaret's are young women in foreign countries without a lot of recourse so this is one way they can be provided for, no?
I can change that if you prefer though

The big hole was the ambassador role. Katherine only became an ambassador because Ferdinand needed to have one in England.

Marguerite is already married, so she’s provided for (tbh she’s probably part of Elizabeth of York’s household at this moment) and Margaret Tudor is Henry’s daughter and Queen Dowager. She’s most likely fine. Unlike Katherine, she luckily has a somewhat decent father.

It doesn’t need to be changed, it’s just odd.
On top of everything else, Katherine was a grown woman, even if quite young still, while both girls here are essentially children.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

January, 1505: Katherine of Aragon gives birth to a second son, named William, who dies a week after his birth. Devastated, she draws further into the Church.

February, 1505: Having been granted a dispensation by the Pope, and despite Henry VII’s quibbling over the dowry, James V of Scotland marries the Queen Dowager of Scotland in a rushed and secret ceremony. Margaret Tudor relates the story to her brother succinctly: “he came to me during supper, we met with the Duke of Ross, a knight named Patrick and his wife, Euphemia, and the bishop, and were wed in short order”. Some relayed the story as her food still being warm by the time they returned to her rooms. The new King, not quite as lusty as his brother had been, waits a week to consummate the marriage, fearing the consequences of his actions. But what’s done is done, and Duke John Stewart of Ross is given the task of representing his brother in England to soften the blow. The fact that the King knows his brother will be likely imprisoned for being the messenger seems to sweeten the deal, and John gets to feel important for a few weeks.

The English court is less furious than it is confused.

Henry VII asks the Scottish Ambassador why the marriage was rushed through, and rumours spread Margaret Tudor is already pregnant (she’s not), but the biggest reaction is from Elizabeth of York. She’s still recovering from her last pregnancy and had looked forward to even a few weeks being reunited with her daughter. But instead, everything is moving too fast. In a move that’s probably the most shocking in her life, she refuses to speak to Duke John when he arrives, more does she agree to mention her daughter in public. The most she says for a while is “she is well”.

April, 1505: Bianca Maria Sforza, pregnant but not hopeful that she’ll see a live child, gives birth to a surprisingly healthy daughter, named Eleanor.

April 1505: Joanna, Queen of Castile and Aragon, is deciding on potential suitors. She knows her children need a father figure and she needs a husband to be palatable to her subjects. The only question is who. Perhaps Ferdinand II of Naples? She is currently undecided. Margaret, twice queen of Scotland, announces her first pregnancy. The queen of Portugal, sister to the princess of Wales and queen of Castile and Aragon, Maria, is also pregnant and is eagerly anticipating her new child.

June 1505: The king and queen of England, Henry and Elizabeth are found entwined in a garden with their throats slit.

 

[Brita]

June 1505: While staying in Nantes, Anne of Brittany gives birth on the night of Saint John's Eve. The child, a boy, is named John.