Even if it cannot be moved they know how thick the armour is and able to test their guns against it. Unless the area is soon recaptured by the British. Compare that to OTL when they only where facing M3 lights for the first year. That will have an impact on any future tank design unless the war in far east ends sooner as of a lack of oil.
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They might put more effort into deploying the 47mm Type 1, and develop its 57mm successor to provide better reliability against Matildas. They might also follow up Chi-He with the OG Chi-To earlier as a result (lighter than the final one, 57mm gun and 50mm thick armor only).
Note that both Chi-He and the 47mm gun started development in 1940-41 as a response to the problems encountered with the Soviets in 1939. Chi-To development started in April 1942 and was fully specified in August, with captured Stuarts also providing data for the development of a synchromesh gearbox.
When Japan encountered heavier Allied tanks or got reports from Germany, the policy shifted in July 1943 when we got the dev of Chi-To, Chi-Ri, 75mm and 105mm guns. As such facing more and heavier British armor as early as 1942 could bring the policy shift several months forward.
Note that both Chi-He and the 47mm gun started development in 1940-41 as a response to the problems encountered with the Soviets in 1939. Chi-To development started in April 1942 and was fully specified in August, with captured Stuarts also providing data for the development of a synchromesh gearbox.
When Japan encountered heavier Allied tanks or got reports from Germany, the policy shifted in July 1943 when we got the dev of Chi-To, Chi-Ri, 75mm and 105mm guns. As such facing more and heavier British armor as early as 1942 could bring the policy shift several months forward.
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They can't study the metallurgy though, or do any in-depth testing of anything else. PLus, as noted, they don't really have the resources to begin with.
Depending on how quickly the crew have to depart there is much that can be done, in minutes if there is a truck near by. For starters unload all 2lb ammunition plus both machine guns and all there ammunition. If there is time take out the radio and the 2lb breach block, both items are valuable for keeping another tank in the fight.
whilst this is being done smash up the engine and prepare to set fire to the tank, if you can get explosives from the engineers better still.
whilst this is being done smash up the engine and prepare to set fire to the tank, if you can get explosives from the engineers better still.
The Japanese had a surprising decent truck, the Isuzu diesel 3 ton Type 97.
Also had a 6 ton tracked Prime Mover, the Type 98, used for towing guns. Good enough for the Australians to keep using them when captured
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I read a quote from a Stuart crew who fought in the battle of the Box in Burma and they mentioned that at night they kept a canister round ‘up the spout’ ready to be fired in case of a night attack but that it was known to damage the cannons rifling.
Just saying
You can design spin stabilised cannister which doesn't damage rifling but the round is getting more complicated.
Have seen some writings that some M2 had used ball bearings in place of the lead .38 caliber balls, and that wouldn't be great if the case ruptured in the barrel, since they are hardened.
This is Imperial Japan; there are two possible answers:More interesting question is how will this affect the Japanese tank design now they have access to a 'super heavy'When did they capture one in OTL for the first time.
A) A Superheavy is any land vehicle that is fully enclosed with armour sufficient to defeat Autocannon rounds.
B) Yamato with legs.
Rolling friction on hard pack road wouldn't be a problem at all
Cross country is a whole other matter, of course
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Try stopping it around a downhill bend or indeed climbing any incline. Pulling a trailer on a flat dockside is one thing - transporting the tank across Malayan roads in the middle of bad weather is a totally different kettle of fish.Rolling friction on hard pack road wouldn't be a problem at all
Cross country is a whole other matter, of course
PS - the picture is actually showing a jeep pulling a rail car at Dakar
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You are making an argument that first it couldn't be pulled, and then switched to problem stopping.
Yes, towing with just chains is insanely dangerous.
But thus is the IJA. That's how they rolled.
That's one reason I picked that Jeep picture.
It wouldn't be able to safely brake on a downhill grade either.
But when Armies need to move loads, the inner MacGyver is unleashed.
The Japanese would be able to recover that Tank, when the order was given when the Front has moved past.
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The jeep was pulling that load on a railway track!
I didn't say it couldn't be pulled - I said that the Japanese had no real ability to tow it away. Which does include stopping, navigating bends and climbing inclines.
I'm sure someone may try to pull it away. They may give up after the third or fourth truck is written off.
How about on mud tracks and with a towing vehicle a fraction the size of what you're trying to tow?With roads, not that hard
Provided you have a decent towing vehicle
Not sure either of those would be sufficient, except of you chained them together in a row. Also, I doubt they could spare any RN.