Ah, I don’t prefer to wear my nerdyness on my sleeve, just read it online and cry in my room when I realize I’m all alone in my liking for it...
Interesting, I assume will be meeting some of the US badasses in the post war era...Suprised they did not go in for enslavments, guess only the Draka can get away with that in the eyes of the Brits.
Grabbing free persons and enslaving them en masse is extreme even for the CSA, and they were angling for allies in Europe who might not have approved. The Drakians enslaving "prisoners of war" who were African natives using terminology that doesn't sound like slavery is something they can get away with. Outright enslaving the Georgians would have a bridge too far.
This could produce some tensions between Jefferson and Comancheria, especially if the latter lauds there status as Favorite native group.
I mean their was Sparta (the Society I think the Draka were modled on) with it's Helots but even then their were some options to become Spartan during war and they lived in constant fear of Helot revolts, limiting their expansion.
Helots could be freed though, couldn't they? And there was a non-slave, non-citizen intermediate class in Sparta I believe.
Yeah, Personnally I do like the Atheist part of them but they need to have it develop over decades as part of a bit by bit cultural developments (such as gaining abelism and Eugenics becoming the rage, growing arrogance in their own superiority from the young etc etc), not "alright we're all Atheists now" on a whim.
The Draka society felt like it would make more sense in a far future sci fi setting than an AH one, personally.
Personnally I think that's not him knocking on liberals but going for his perffered fetishes. In ISOT, his main character was a lesbian, who got into a couple and raised kids and in the Blackout series (ya know the one where were suddenly reduced to the medevial time period by abunch of pagan gods) Paganism is the main religon of the good guys (at least for the first three books) and given a huge wank and their are a couple of gay couples. Still he lays it on Abit thick and it does not make for good writing in my view...
You're probably right.
Another member of the Earl Warren's AH Bad Ass Club, he gets to graduate into Premium membership for fending off a Confederate invasion while a quadriplegic and becoming a awesome politician.
See now I'm going to have to come up with more.
well this is prob gonna do quite a blow to eungic in the usa
What's this, the beginning of cyborgization? Sure looks like it.
Also, nice sneaking in something titled fascism.
Okay, wow, that was actually very touching!
I agree; talk about Handicapped Badass...
I based it off of a guy whose name I can't recall who was also given a deathbed promotion but survived as a quadriplegic. Only he spent the rest of his career in a quiet and unimportant post instead of getting a chance to save Chicago.
So, what are the possibilities of Drakian English becoming it's own separate entity as the dominion becomes more independent of the mother country?
You mean Drakian English the language?
I understand that the author doesn't want to replicate the citizen or slave duality of the canon DV, but the third class of nationals is, IMHO, unsustainable. The nationals can never rise to be citizens, but they can fall in to debt and become "bondservants", and bondservants can't get out of bondage on their own hook. Now a bondservant/serf might "earn" forgiveness from their debt through some spectacular act (saving the master from a lion attack sort of thing) but would that include their wife/children? The way the system is set up, unlike chattel slavery in the USA where slaves were generally allowed to earn money on the side (selling crafts etc) and thus could hope to purchase their own freedom and that of any family, here the debt is compounding interest, books are cooked if necessary so buying your way out "bond" is really not within reach. The net result of this is that those "nationals" in the grey zone between citizens and serfs (I'll use that terms for convenience) are more likely to move in to bond status than anything else, and the number of serfs who manage to climb out of bond, as opposed to being "freed" to die in poverty, will always be way less than the number of nationals who fall in to bond.
The other question is what place will nationals have? What work will they do? I expect their educational opportunities will be limited, so that puts a large number of occupations out of reach. On top of that certain jobs/categories will be restricted to citizens. Between the mass of serfs who fill the jobs from below and the restrictions and limitations from above this leaves a very narrow slice for nationals to earn a living, and living paycheck to paycheck means debt bondage is is less than a step behind. On top of that is race - the nationals may not be as black as the serfs, although with serfs bearing children of their citizen masters and mulattos who fell in to debt, as well as the admixture of Arabs, serfs can be "brown", they still won't be "white". Skin color, if things go as canon, won't be less distinction until sometime between the end of WWI and the end of WWII as "white" populations are conquered.
I understand what you're saying and you make valid points. The numbers of Nationals is going to shrink and decline in importance, but there will always be people on their way between Honorary White and being Bondsmen who will fall into the National Space and it's a good place to leave low-ranking employees to incentivize them- screw up and its only a small step down into Bondage. Keep in mind that European colonialism in the 19th and 20th centuries almost always incorporated an intermediate class of natives.
How likely would fascism spreading to other countries (or inspiring similar movements there) be?
It's certainly going to inspire political movements elsewhere. The idea of "adopt our culture and language and we'll treat you as an equal regardless of your race or religion" dates back to the enlightenment and popped up in different places all through OTL. Of course in OTL it generally didn't work, but we'll see it again.