Rump South Vietnam at Mekong Delta (post-Vietnam War)

After Saigon has capitulated what does North Vietnamese government response on fake President Duong Van Minh (remained at Saigon) at Saigon radio station announced entire government administration unconditional surrender and ordered all ARVN forces to laid down weapons and surrendered to liberation army?
 
Why would you support unified Vietnam that ended up predictably communist rule entire Vietnam by summer 1976? You haven’t given fully constructed evidence on how would it factored on North Vietnamese Army and battalion regiments to prepare new spring offensive campaign next year in spring-summer 1976 at the boundary Tien River because American still supplying massive military supplies to barely survivable Rump Republic of Vietnam with the absence of Case Church agreement. And also sevetal Việt Cong remote base areas have been eliminated in most of Mekong provinces after temporarily ceasefire in summer 1975. The capital Can Tho wouldn’t planned for peace talks about rumor of coalition government just like Duong Van Minh proposed the peaceful negotiation to set up the new coalition government. Can Tho still have running powerhouse grown agricultural farming foods as necessities.
My personal political opinions are irrelevant. And what American supplies? YOU LITERALLY HAD THE LAST MAJOR PORT IN SOUTH VIETNAM COLLAPSE. Nearly all major airfields are gone as well. While it's true North Vietnam was at the end if it's logistical supplies, they do have military factories that can just manufacture weapons :


Soviet and Chinese aid won't be necessary at this point.

South Vietnam has NO logistics. Do you understand what no logistics means? They have no control over their major ports, nearly all their urban centers have collapses, most major airfields are gone, and they just lost their financial heartland! North Vietnamese logistics is stretched, but they still have logistics. South Vietnam has NO logistics. None. Zero.
 
My personal political opinions are irrelevant. And what American supplies? YOU LITERALLY HAD THE LAST MAJOR PORT IN SOUTH VIETNAM COLLAPSE. Nearly all major airfields are gone as well. While it's true North Vietnam was at the end if it's logistical supplies, they do have military factories that can just manufacture weapons :


Soviet and Chinese aid won't be necessary at this point.

South Vietnam has NO logistics. Do you understand what no logistics means? They have no control over their major ports, nearly all their urban centers have collapses, most major airfields are gone, and they just lost their financial heartland! North Vietnamese logistics is stretched, but they still have logistics. South Vietnam has NO logistics. None. Zero.

I'm going to put this as politely as possible, but a person who's got a long-running thread over in the Writer's Forum where all the comments are basically variations of "How is this possibly happening?" might want to be a little less, ah, strident about this sort of criticism of someone else's posts.
 
In fact, the United States has to sent limited up to 6,000 US infantry soldiers, including 3,000 Marine soldiers, as a neutral peacekeepers to protect the inland at the South of the Tien River to prevent further NVA approached the next wave of invasion of Tien River after armistice 1975. The Rump South Vietnam still have six airfields: Can Tho, Phu Quoc Island (2), Vinh Long, Long Xuyen, Ca Mau provincial capital, and Rach Gia, to protect within the security South Vietnamese airspace to ensure better logistics air protection.
 
In fact, the United States has to sent limited up to 6,000 US infantry soldiers, including 3,000 Marine soldiers, as a neutral peacekeepers to protect the inland at the South of the Tien River to prevent further NVA approached the next wave of invasion of Tien River after armistice 1975. The Rump South Vietnam still have six airfields: Can Tho, Phu Quoc Island (2), Vinh Long, Long Xuyen, Ca Mau provincial capital, and Rach Gia, to protect within the security South Vietnamese airspace to ensure better logistics air protection.
Whichever president ordered that just committed political suicide
 
From bk01977 email:
"Here is what I think is possible. The CIA should have full reign over South Vietnam, because they were effective in coopting minorities such as the Montagnards in the Central Highlands. The cynical side of me believed that with economic investment, the Central Highlands would have been secured. But I'm getting off topic. The CIA should continue a smaller-scale Phoenix Program in which the South Vietnamese are now the muscle instead of MACV-SOG as well and that could set the foundation needed for a smaller South Vietnam if it came to that."
 
From bk01977 email:
"Here is what I think is possible. The CIA should have full reign over South Vietnam, because they were effective in coopting minorities such as the Montagnards in the Central Highlands. The cynical side of me believed that with economic investment, the Central Highlands would have been secured. But I'm getting off topic. The CIA should continue a smaller-scale Phoenix Program in which the South Vietnamese are now the muscle instead of MACV-SOG as well and that could set the foundation needed for a smaller South Vietnam if it came to that."
People, no matter how strong or willing they are, need ammunition. Bold speeches or badassery don't produce ammunition.
 
In summer 1975, after temporarily armistice between rump South Vietnam and North Vietnam, the South Vietnamese government pledged international community to not to recognize North Vietnam and instead bring up int’l humanitarian aid, such as food and tool supplies, to Can Tho New Democratic regime. The government of Republic of Vietnam has to deal occasional looters who needed more necessities foods to live better as the food supplies from Saigon and My Tho under enemy NVA controlled. For instance, the price of rice per kg would be likely little higher inflation. The government of rump RVN need to figure out to negotiate with UN desperate for unanimous UN Security Council-US, Soviet Union, Republic of China (Taiwan and Hainan), France, Britain, to limited for UN peacekeeping troops to preserve the protection of longer stretch distance Tien River. The CIA officer notified to ARVN Major general Nguyen Khoa Nam and Deputy Commander Le Van Hung that it would takes weeks to figure out the serious agreements on protocol for drafting resolution documents depending on appropriate wording for solution on both Vietnams.
 
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In summer 1975, after temporarily armistice between rump South Vietnam and North Vietnam, the South Vietnamese government pledged international community to not to recognize North Vietnam and instead bring up int’l humanitarian aid, such as food and tool supplies, to Can Tho New Democratic regime. The government of Republic of Vietnam has to deal occasional looters who needed more necessities foods to live better as the food supplies from Saigon and My Tho under enemy NVA controlled. For instance, the price of rice per kg would be likely little higher inflation. The government of rump RVN need to figure out to negotiate with UN desperate for unanimous UN Security Council-US, Soviet Union, Republic of China (Taiwan and Hainan), France, Britain, to limited for UN peacekeeping troops to preserve the protection of longer stretch distance Tien River. The CIA officer notified to ARVN Major general Nguyen Khoa Nam and Deputy Commander Le Van Hung that it would takes weeks to figure out the serious agreements on protocol for drafting resolution documents depending on appropriate wording for solution on both Vietnams.
The USSR vetoes such pleas
 
The Republic of Vietnam ceases to be a sovereign state
Nope, the US marine soldiers would be sent to protect Tien River as a safe buffer zone, according to bk01997, in an effort to keep ARVN sustainability at Can Tho. Rump South Vietnam won’t collapsed inevitably.

According to Bk01997 email:
“That, and the South Vietnamese have some concept of combined arm”
 
Nope, the US marine soldiers would be sent to protect Tien River as a safe buffer zone, according to bk01997, in an effort to keep ARVN sustainability at Can Tho. Rump South Vietnam won’t collapsed inevitably.

According to Bk01997 email:
“That, and the South Vietnamese have some concept of combined arm”
Any president that does that torches his political career and his party is guaranteed to lose the 1976 election in a landslide...
 
Is there any possibility that at least the UN puts a ceasefire so that the rump South Vietnam survives?
Well, one, the UN wouldn't be able to enforce it, and two, the Soviets would gladly veto it on behalf of the North Vietnamese.

There's really nowhere for the South Vietnamese to run, not even to tiny Phú Quốc. Even on the off chance that the North Vietnamese delayed a naval landing there, and the South Vietnamese try to set up a provisional government, the Khmer Rouge would have jumped at the chance of forceful reclamation of former Cambodian territory.
 
Well, one, the UN wouldn't be able to enforce it, and two, the Soviets would gladly veto it on behalf of the North Vietnamese.

There's really nowhere for the South Vietnamese to run, not even to tiny Phú Quốc. Even on the off chance that the North Vietnamese delayed a naval landing there, and the South Vietnamese try to set up a provisional government, the Khmer Rouge would have jumped at the chance of forceful reclamation of former Cambodian territory.
At best the AVRN can launch an insurgency like the KMT's NRA did in Burma after the Chinese civil war. But even that insurgency got crushed by the 60s
 
Why wouldn’t Soviet Union, as UN Security Council, supported on summer 1975 Vietnam War ceasefire heard from various international community? Remember there are largely evacuated ARVN troops from Saigon still holding on active military duty at rump South Vietnam?
 
Why wouldn’t Soviet Union, as UN Security Council, supported on summer 1975 Vietnam War ceasefire heard from various international community? Remember there are largely evacuated ARVN troops from Saigon still holding on active military duty at rump South Vietnam?
Because the PVN was going to win the Vietnam War. Once Saigon falls, it was not a question of if, but when, and that 'when' wasn't going to be a few years, a few months or even a few days. It was going to be now. And the Soviets would very happy to see their allies win against their archnemesis, the US. By that point, ARVN had no supplies, no government, no help, no support, nothing. Their only hope now is to run and let South Vietnam die, or they're all heading for the reeducation camps.

And really, what can the Free World do? Write strongly worded letters? They can't go back in without incurring the wrath of their own citizens, who had been protesting for years to pull out of Vietnam.
 
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Basically, all you have to do to get a rump South Vietnam surviving after the fall of Saigon is to get an ARVN so strong and competent and a US so willing to intervene that...Saigon wouldn't have fallen n the first place!
 
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