POLL: Huguenot France?

[GauchoBadger]

So, considering that the 16th century French Huguenots end up with the highest plausible advantage face the Catholic opposition during the French Religious Wars, how much territory do you think they could annex for themselves?
Do you think they could elevate one of their nobles to kingship, with or without the entirety of France?

 

[Xgentis]

It really depend of the pod it is difficult to say with so few information provided.

 

[GauchoBadger]

It really depend of the pod it is difficult to say with so few information provided.

If so, then i posit a Huguenot "victory" between 1565 and 1580. Suppose that Henry of Navarre doesn't convert, too.

 

[funnyhat]

The best-case for the Huguenots is probably that the Valois do not go extinct, so that Henri gives up the dream of being king of France and just tries to make the Kingdom of Navarre as big as possible. His personal success OTL was ultimately harmful to them in the long run as there was too much political advantage to him converting to Catholicism.

I voted for the "just Aquitaine" option but he probably would have some irregularly shaped territory covering a mix of Aquitaine, Béarn and Languedoc (but altogether, about the size of Aquitaine).

The other areas of Protestant concentration are probably lost and their residents would flee to Henri's kingdom, similar to how the Protestant Flemish fled north to the United Provinces. After this flight (and perhaps a simultaneous flight of Catholics out of Navarre) they might form a majority of the population. But they have two likely enemies in France and Spain...

 

[ByzantineLover]

But they have two likely enemies in France and Spain...

But two likely allies in England and Portugal (and maybe Austria) depending on the political situation. Also depending on the political situation both France and Spain could be seen as on-again, off-again allies, especially in wars with each other.

 

[funnyhat]

But two likely allies in England and Portugal (and maybe Austria) depending on the political situation. Also depending on the political situation both France and Spain could be seen as on-again, off-again allies, especially in wars with each other.

Eventually Spain could be an ally, if the kingdom can survive to the mid-XVII century. But in the short term (especially under Philip II) they will want to crush it.

France is probably always going to regard it as a lost territory to be conquered.

 

[Alienspacebats]

Huguenots some of them dabble in classical Republican thought and so it could be possible with that if just Aquitaine could be Republic...

 

[Milites]

Huguenots some of them dabble in classical Republican thought and so it could be possible with that if just Aquitaine could be Republic...

Interesting! Which Huguenots and which republican thinkers?

 

[Matteo]

The best-case for the Huguenots is probably that the Valois do not go extinct, so that Henri gives up the dream of being king of France and just tries to make the Kingdom of Navarre as big as possible. His personal success OTL was ultimately harmful to them in the long run as there was too much political advantage to him converting to Catholicism.

I voted for the "just Aquitaine" option but he probably would have some irregularly shaped territory covering a mix of Aquitaine, Béarn and Languedoc (but altogether, about the size of Aquitaine).

The other areas of Protestant concentration are probably lost and their residents would flee to Henri's kingdom, similar to how the Protestant Flemish fled north to the United Provinces. After this flight (and perhaps a simultaneous flight of Catholics out of Navarre) they might form a majority of the population. But they have two likely enemies in France and Spain...

France and Navarre not being islands, this won’t happen. South of France is a certain network of kingdom, that can be summed up as Catholic Spain, that was then the number one European power and that will just crush a Huguenot kingdom in Navarre or southwestern France if the king of France is unable to do it.

 

[Alienspacebats]

Interesting! Which Huguenots and which republican thinkers?

I don't remember exactly, all I know is that remember there was a lot of connections between the Dutch Republic, Switzerland when came to Haugenots and the fact that it became much more political affair after March 1, 1562