You WILL NOT export nationalist and political flamebait into ASB.Maybe you stop promoting the terms of Russian imperialism. Novorossia never existed.
Stop.
Now.
You WILL NOT export nationalist and political flamebait into ASB.Maybe you stop promoting the terms of Russian imperialism. Novorossia never existed.
In OTL neither Charles nor Peter had been a fool but both of them had been obsessed with their own ideas so why not to readjust these ideas a little bit to make them compatible instead of clashing? BTW, a pretty much pointless conflict lasted not for few decades but for more than a century and could last longer if the Swedes did not chose my favorite Napoleonic marshal. So why not cut it short?
Can’t promise a lot on Sweden simply because I don’t know too much.Good TL on Russia. I must admit i was baffled with Russia not planning to go after the Ottoman's beyond Crimea given Peters focus south, but when I look at it again entire Russian otl Balkan policy can be summed nicely at Berlin congress. Russia making massive sacrifice and gains only for them to get mostly reversed and Austria getting Bosnia/Serbia in it's sphere of influence.
Who would have thought that creating bunch of small states on the Balkans wouldn't increase Russian influence there? Anyway i agree that not expanding further in the Balkans is probably good call for Russia as it saves resources, plus Ottomans are far better buffer opposed to various Balkan states and Balkans being in Ottoman hands just means that Russia has convenient place it can invade the Ottoman's if they think about reversing Russian gains , or if it decides to go for more trade concessions . Plus Balkans are nice source of population for Russia to settle it's eastern lands ...
That was actually biggest hype for me in this TL, Swedish Empire maintaining it's Great power status, as much as I like to see good Russian TL what i look forward more is to see what is happening in Sweden, i hope to see a update that gives closer look in internal policies of Sweden given that Charles has more free time to focus his energy internally.
As of now external situation for them is quite favorable from my understanding, they managed to reaffirm their great power status in quick war, get some good profitable territories , resolve potential territorial dispute with Russia and secure the eastern rear , improved economic situation a great deal and from European perspective Sweden is senior ally to Russia while pretty much vassalizing PLC.
If Charles manages to win against potential Danish/Prussian coalition (as i personally don't see Danes being crazy enough to go at it alone despite Russia not being taken seriously, Sweden appears to be quite formidable after all ) i could see him being called the Great as well. That is if he decides to exchange some notes with French philosophers on how great their works are. Though i wonder will Russia participate in future war? On one side they can't gain a lot territorially wise directly , on other side money (reforms are expensive), Danish concessions regarding the trade through Strait's, plus potential territorial exchange with PLC at expense of their rivals are all in the box.
Though i must say that most impressive person so far is August the wise , it takes a lot to start a war to secure PLC throne for your son, only to lose said war and still achieve wanted original objective.
Hopefully his son takes after his father and learnes how to be good pet to his future master's.
Yeah, Karl XII had a few bouts with drinking and debauchery, especially when visited by his brother-in-law Duke Fredrik IV of Holstein-Gottorp, but had by 1699 promised his complaining grandmother to not drink anymore (which in the times meant not drinking hard spirits and not too much wine), which he kept during his life.Not sure about Charles and the philosophers but, according to @von Adler (my greatest
authority on the things Swedish just as @Jürgen is on the things Danish), even in OTL he was quite dedicated to his duties as a monarch so probably, if not “disturbed”, he could just try to be a good ruler of a peaceful and prosperous country, which is, of course, less exciting then to be permanently at war but probably is going to be appreciated by his subjects.
The main problem for me (due to the shortage of the needed information) is what’s next: marriage or OTL-like passage of the throne to the Holstein, skipping his younger sister (who is now an Orthodox) and her children?
What to do with Peter’s nieces?
What to do with Peter’s nieces?
The problem is that generally, Russian princesses did not marry non-orthodox. Then again, they did marry Anna to Karl Fredrik and Catherine to Karl Leopold so I suppose it is possible - Peter seems to have been fine with it like previous and later Russian heads of the Romanov dynasty were not.Well he could try to marry Catherine to Carl (nine year difference isn't so big ). While it was stated that he doesn't want to be entangled in dinastic troubles that come with dinastic marriages his alliance with Sweden appears to be long-term thing and making it even stronger is in his interest.
And to whom can he get married? The royal marriages are not exactly my favorite area so perhaps you can point a potential candidate?Yeah, Karl XII had a few bouts with drinking and debauchery, especially when visited by his brother-in-law Duke Fredrik IV of Holstein-Gottorp, but had by 1699 promised his complaining grandmother to not drink anymore (which in the times meant not drinking hard spirits and not too much wine), which he kept during his life.
He did like his father take an active role as the supreme judge of the realm. Sweden had three levels of courts - the häradsrätt (härad court, a härad was usually two parishes), staffed by 12 reliable peasants elected by their peers at the parish council and chaired by the appointed häradshövding (bailiff) appointed by the King, but it was common for the often noble häradshövding to consider this duty less important (or beneath them) and let the elder among the elected peasants fill his role. This level of court was to sentence according to the strictest interpretation of the law and was not allowed to consider any mitigating circumstances. In the cities, the rådhusrätt filled the same role with 12 elected burghers instead. The second level was the hovrätt, which was staffed by (most often) noblemen selected by the King. These were allowed to consider mitigating circumstances, and almost any case that resulted in really severe punishment was taken up in the hovrätt. And after that the highest court was the King himself.
Karl is probably busying himself like his father did with quick travels and inspections - the last few years of his father's reign, he often followed on these trips, in which the King travelled light, with no official ceremonies, dressed very practically and with a minimal following (in the legends he travels alone in a simple grey coat) to catch officials, officers and civil servants unawares. In one of these legends, Karl XI arrives at a city too late to wake up the burghmeister and resolves to sleep in the city square. The night watchman finds him, wakes him up and sends him out of the city, as it is not allowed to loiter and sleep in the streets, unawares that it is the King he's ousting. The King leaves a letter of recommendation and a silver coin for the watchman as an appreciation for his dedication to his duty.
When it comes to marriage, Karl would probably marry. His father and mother had what seemed for the time a loving marriage and he did state that he wanted to marry for love. Whether he was asexual, homosexual or simply had a low libido and a strong dedication to duty has been heavily debated by historians, but most agree that there are no real evidence of any sexual affairs beyond some of the early rumours peddled by diplomats in Stockholm (which could very well be made up gossip they included in their reports to have something to write about). But marrying and having an heir is one of the main duties of his office, and I don't think he would shirk it, especially as his experience of royal marriages (his mother's and father's) is that they can be happy if done right. He would be one of the most sought after bachelors in Europe, I think.
OTL Karl attempted to get Sweden on the Gregorian calendar, tried to reform the tax system and introduce an income tax to replace tolls and land rent (but this one was mostly due to the economical hardships and might not happen if Sweden is not close to bankrupcy due to the war), worked the traffic system (introducing right hand driving for carts). If he wants to, he could get himself busy in trying to reform the Swedish currency - which at the time was divided into daler kopparmynt, and daler silvermynt and daler with the first being copper, and the second two being silver, but riksdaler being so high in silver content that it had long since disappeared from circulation and mostly being a bookkeeping unit. Then there were Swedish doucat gold coins, but they were generally only used by the crown to reward officers, civil servants and officials and not in general circulation.
Then there's the construction of Stockholm's castle, which I could see Karl XII busy himself with a bit. OTL the construction work was but on the backburner when the war broke out, and ceased completely 1709 only to be resumed 1726 not to be completely finished until 1795. ITTL, the King has time to devote to the project, and the Swedish state has far, far more money to put on it. Originally, the architect Nicomedus Thessin expected a 6 year building period, but the Little Nordic War surely delayed things, as would the War of Spanish Succession (making it hard to get French and Italian sculptors and artists), but by 1710 or so, perhaps Peter, Alexei and Ulrika Eleonora will be invited to a grand housewarming party?
But here goes a potential problem: she is from the “wrong” branch of the family. This did not look critical in OTL because (a) at the time of her marriage Peter just got a brand new son and kept breeding like a rabbit and (b) she was marrying pretty much a nobody with a good pedigree. But a King of Sweden is a different kettle of fish and in this TL Peter is fully relying upon Alexey and his procreative abilities. He is a friend with Charles but in a not so far removed future there can be potentially a conflicting claim to the Russian throne coming from the senior branch of the Romanov family and backed by the power of Sweden.Well he could try to marry Catherine to Carl (nine year difference isn't so big ). While it was stated that he doesn't want to be entangled in dinastic troubles that come with dinastic marriages his alliance with Sweden appears to be long-term thing and making it even stronger is in his interest.
Agree. For "Peter I and the Methods of Rationality" this is a good idea.Of course, instead of the OTL idiotic law he could adopt an earlier version of the Pauline law, which would fit existing Russian traditions and allow to avoid a century of the palace coups. This way Swedish Vasa are in the line of the Russian succession but only if Peter’s male line gets extinct. The issue of the religion still there preventing the union: King of Sweden must be a Lutheran, Emperor of Russia must be Orthodox. So there will be a need for something like OTL arrangement for the future Peter III.
The problem is that generally, Russian princesses did not marry non-orthodox.
Then again, they did marry Anna to Karl Fredrik and Catherine to Karl Leopold so I suppose it is possible - Peter seems to have been fine with it like previous and later Russian heads of the Romanov dynasty were not.
Dynastic problems were really not much of a thing for Sweden - Swedish monarchs married Danish princesses several times, despite the two countries being arch-enemies. Karl's mother, Ulrika Eleonora (the elder) was a Danish princess.
Danish, yes.At that time they rarely married at all. But a niece of Ivan IV did not marry a Danish prince and a daughter of Boris Godunov was engaged to a Danish (?) prince.
Of course, instead of the OTL idiotic law he could adopt an earlier version of the Pauline law, which would fit existing Russian traditions and allow to avoid a century of the palace coups. This way Swedish Vasa are in the line of the Russian succession but only if Peter’s male line gets extinct. The issue of the religion still there preventing the union: King of Sweden must be a Lutheran, Emperor of Russia must be Orthodox. So there will be a need for something like OTL arrangement for the future Peter III.
Other than this consideration, the idea seems quite attractive. Thanks.
No prob, if it happens Peter will at least have an excuse to think about changing succession law.
Otherwise, other potential match is with Fredrick II, aka August the III, aka son of August the Strong/Wise.
As for why? Well Peter did mention that Austria, or France would try to gain foothold in PLC, plus Fredrick was married to Hasburg princess otl so it isn't beyond him to preempt that and try to increase his own influence in the PLC .
As for the candidate, well it's up to Peter Anna, or Praskovya .
And the last candidate for marriage is Karl Leopold , Duke of Mecklenburg Schwerin , otl husband of Catherine. Small dutchy in northern Germany which Peter planned to use for war against Sweden, could potentially be reused for war against Denmark, or Prussia. Otherwise, well good for increasing the influence in Baltic sea.
OK, this may work. Thanks.Karl originally proposed to Anna .
Other nations wage war due to their rivalry. Sweden and Russia build palaces, and the British (and Dutch) are paying for it.![]()
This will be the intention. The result will fit into a joke about the Russian PhDs in philology: two of them are doing crossword and hit the definition “major failure, 5 letters”. They look at each other: “do they now allow that type of words to be printed? It is obviously «п____ц»!” [1] The third PhD enters the room and comes with the same answer. Then the young student comes in and, when asked, gives the right answer: “Fiasco”.Do I sense a Hannovrian plot? George is Prince-Elector of Hannover-Lübeck and heir to the throne of Britain after his mother (who is in ill health, so most will think it will be him), his influence in Britain is already substantial. If he is pulling strings to drive a wedge between Sweden and Britain and the Dutch in order to pave the way for a Dano-Hannovrian-Prussian alliance (perhaps with the benovelent ignorance of the Emperor) this could very well be the result.