Map Thread XX

I take it that the northern USA sank into the Atlantic-Pacific Ocean?
Joking aside, great map! I enjoy larger Canadas going beyond northern North America.
 
i spent alot of last night trying to figure out what some of the alternate US states will look like ITTL, particularly keeping it as starting with Thirteen Colonies without being completely parallel to it. that's harder than it sounds, and i'd like some peer review on what i ended up with:
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from north to south and mostly not using their finalized names:
  1. *Massacusetts Bay (the northern part of this one splits off parallel to Maine IOTL as Popham; that's one of the definite names so far)
  2. *New Hampshire/Vermont
  3. *New York
  4. *Pennsylvania
  5. New Haven
  6. *Connecticut/Providence (the idea is that Rhode Island is part of *Massachusetts ITTL; i'll probably be making a picture-in-picture of the region to make this clearer)
  7. Saybrook
  8. *Long Island
  9. *Virginia (i already have this one set to split into five states further along, but obviously it only covers one as part of the Thirteen Colonies, including TTL's version of Tennessee)
  10. *South Jersey
  11. Chesapeake
  12. *Carolina (this one is set to be divided into at least two states, though into east-west portions instead of north-south)
  13. *Georgia
my main concern here is that the borders might not make as much sense as they could--i largely based them on pre-Revolution settlement areas according to the Nextgen Worlda series of maps, but i'm also not entirely sure if they're aesthetically pleasing. thoughts?
 
i spent alot of last night trying to figure out what some of the alternate US states will look like ITTL, particularly keeping it as starting with Thirteen Colonies without being completely parallel to it. that's harder than it sounds, and i'd like some peer review on what i ended up with:
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from north to south and mostly not using their finalized names:
  1. *Massacusetts Bay (the northern part of this one splits off parallel to Maine IOTL as Popham; that's one of the definite names so far)
  2. *New Hampshire/Vermont
  3. *New York
  4. *Pennsylvania
  5. New Haven
  6. *Connecticut/Providence (the idea is that Rhode Island is part of *Massachusetts ITTL; i'll probably be making a picture-in-picture of the region to make this clearer)
  7. Saybrook
  8. *Long Island
  9. *Virginia (i already have this one set to split into five states further along, but obviously it only covers one as part of the Thirteen Colonies, including TTL's version of Tennessee)
  10. *South Jersey
  11. Chesapeake
  12. *Carolina (this one is set to be divided into at least two states, though into east-west portions instead of north-south)
  13. *Georgia
my main concern here is that the borders might not make as much sense as they could--i largely based them on pre-Revolution settlement areas according to the Nextgen Worlda series of maps, but i'm also not entirely sure if they're aesthetically pleasing. thoughts?
I can't answer most of your questions, but I'd recommend the name West Jersey instead
 
i spent alot of last night trying to figure out what some of the alternate US states will look like ITTL, particularly keeping it as starting with Thirteen Colonies without being completely parallel to it. that's harder than it sounds, and i'd like some peer review on what i ended up with:
View attachment 661750
from north to south and mostly not using their finalized names:
  1. *Massacusetts Bay (the northern part of this one splits off parallel to Maine IOTL as Popham; that's one of the definite names so far)
  2. *New Hampshire/Vermont
  3. *New York
  4. *Pennsylvania
  5. New Haven
  6. *Connecticut/Providence (the idea is that Rhode Island is part of *Massachusetts ITTL; i'll probably be making a picture-in-picture of the region to make this clearer)
  7. Saybrook
  8. *Long Island
  9. *Virginia (i already have this one set to split into five states further along, but obviously it only covers one as part of the Thirteen Colonies, including TTL's version of Tennessee)
  10. *South Jersey
  11. Chesapeake
  12. *Carolina (this one is set to be divided into at least two states, though into east-west portions instead of north-south)
  13. *Georgia
my main concern here is that the borders might not make as much sense as they could--i largely based them on pre-Revolution settlement areas according to the Nextgen Worlda series of maps, but i'm also not entirely sure if they're aesthetically pleasing. thoughts?
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i like the debate you guys having, but I admit those were mistakes. French isn't my forte. I love France, but hate the people and the language-ish, is very fancy but imho hard to learn (and I say this as a native speaker of Romanian, a romance language)
I believe you need to rephrase that sentence, maybe you dislike the attitude of the few French people you've met and you feel the language has an undeserved aura considering all its inconsistencies, but saying you hate a people and a language seems a bit uncalled for.

For your lack of success in learning French, some languages are easier than others, but living in the country is always a great way to learn.
My Moldovan friends from university seemed to build on the similarities quickly (but less so than with Italian).
 
I believe you need to rephrase that sentence, maybe you dislike the attitude of the few French people you've met and you feel the language has an undeserved aura considering all its inconsistencies, but saying you hate a people and a language seems a bit uncalled for.

For your lack of success in learning French, some languages are easier than others, but living in the country is always a great way to learn.
My Moldovan friends from university seemed to build on the similarities quickly (but less so than with Italian).
e. tru. on a 2nd reading it sounds a tad too harsh compared to what I actually meant
 
I believe you need to rephrase that sentence, maybe you dislike the attitude of the few French people you've met and you feel the language has an undeserved aura considering all its inconsistencies, but saying you hate a people and a language seems a bit uncalled for.

For your lack of success in learning French, some languages are easier than others, but living in the country is always a great way to learn.
My Moldovan friends from university seemed to build on the similarities quickly (but less so than with Italian).
Thanks for calling that out.
 
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This is a WorldA map for Godspeed: A Flame for Winter, which is a mod being developed for HOI4 that incorporates several major PODs over a timescale of centuries. The most notable ones include:
  • A more western-focused Islamic conquest that successfully drives the crusaders from Rome and Iberia but doesn't penetrate as far into India or Central Asia
  • No east/west schism within Christianity
  • Earlier sustained contact between Europe and the Americas (which are called "Vesperia" and "Meridia" ITTL) that allows some native states to survive the influx of Old World diseases
  • The Angevins retain their holdings in both France and England and evolve into an empire which is decidedly oppressive towards the latter
  • Several minor religions have greater prominence, including Manicheanism (the faith of the alt-Mongol Empire), Zoroastrianism (no longer a majority in Iran, but it still holds that distinction in their more isolated neighbors), and even...Thelema? Let's just say that TTL's "Church of England" might be very different if they ever manage to cast off the French yoke.
  • The Holy Roman Empire centralizes and survives too, because this is AH and why wouldn't it, really? (Just ignore the vast amounts of civil and ethnic unrest *coughHIMMLERcough*)
  • The Yuan dynasty collapses earlier and is replaced by the Guang dynasty of Oirat extraction, which later falls to the Han-ruled Yue dynasty. The Great Yue is one of the world's industrial powerhouses and has a vast network of tributary states, but has become decentralized thanks to bureaucratic inertia.
  • A much worse alt-WWI which leaves the Rhineland and northern Iberia at Zone Rouge levels of devastation and releases so much dust and smoke into the atmosphere that it results in a mini-ice age—hence the name of the mod, "a flame for winter"
To be clear, I am not affiliated with the dev team or any other official role in the community. I spent a few days working on this for my personal use, so I figured I'd share it if anyone else is interested. For more information on A Flame for Winter, check out the official map and feel free to subscribe to the subreddit, but your best bet to access the lore is the Discord server since it has the most up-to-date info and much more activity.
 
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Still new to this mapping business, but one of my first goes at a country profile map.

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History of the Kingdom of the Himalayas:-

The defeat of the British East India Company in the Anglo-Nepalese War was devastating for the EIC in the short term whilst it also allowed the Gurkha Kingdom to see to it that they could expand into Sikkim and Bhutan as wanted. In 1823, King Girvan of Nepal declared the Kingdom of the Himalayas to unite the Nepalese, Sikkimese, Garhwali and Bhutanese peoples of the foothills of the Himalayas into one identity. In 1829, the Anglo-Himalayan War saw the Himalayas lose the war, and lose a good chunk of their western territories, though they retained a good deal of territories in the east. After the war, Himalaya became a de-facto British Protectorate and de-jure British Ally. The defeat in the war kickstarted a slow working modernization process in the Kingdom under the command of King Girvan, gaining the title of the First Industrialized Country in Asia. The Girvan Reforms proved to be popular, and in 1854, a constitution was written down on the Prussian basis with a power-sharing system between the Monarchy and the newly formed Parliament formed.

In the 1857 Indian Mutiny, the Himalayans sided with the British and invaded the rebellious territories, putting them to the sword before returning them to British control. In recognition of this, the British returned the Terai, the southern fertile plains back to the Kingdom. In 1860, The Kingdom took part in the 2nd Opium War, invading Qing Tibet, and annexing several disputed territories in the Region. They also allowed British troops to enter Qing territory through their lands. In recognition of this, the British founded the first railway system in the country from Kasthamandap to Calcutta, laying the foundation for the modern rail system of Nepal. In 1862, King Girvan died without a proper heir, having both his children dying before him without heirs. As a result, the House of Shah went extinct, the nearby relatives through Girvan's marriage, the House of Wangchuck came to the throne as the Kings of Himalaya.

In 1898, the Kingdom passed an amendment making the country into a true constitutional monarchy without extensive reserve powers to the monarch, though the power-sharing system was abolished. During the First World War, the Country declared war on the Central Powers and sent 100,000 troops to fight, though most of them fought in Africa, around 10,000 troops took part in the Battle of Gallipoli and some 15,000 troops fought in France in the Western Front as well. After the end of the First World War, Britain granted the Kingdom full formal independence and pushed the Kingdom to become a part of the League of Nations, which they were granted entrance into.

The Great Depression and a series of earthquakes and avalanches hit the country hard in the interwar era, however, they soon slowly recovered. During the Second World War, around 400,000 troops from the country fought as infantrymen whilst the country also contributed 300 warplanes and ~5000 pilots to the fight. Around 2/3 of the troops fought in Burma and the rest fought in North Africa and Italy. The Himalayan troops were most especially crucial in the Commonwealth Invasion of Thailand in 1944 which put a lot of pressure on the Japanese in the South East Asian Front. The Battle of Bangkok would remain a nationalistic part of Himalayan history.

After the war, and Indian independence, the country joined the Non-aligned league. They supported the Chinese invasion of Tibet, largely for pragmatic reasons, and became one of the first countries to recognize the PRC as the legitimate government of China. In return, the Chinese recognized the current Sino-Himalayan border. The country remained close with the United Kingdom and even the Soviet Union. In the Falklands Crisis, the government of the Himalayas detained all Argentinian citizens on their soil, in aid of their British ally. After the Fall of the Soviet Union, the country recognized Russia as the legitimate successor and was involved in giving some low-level loans to the Russians for their economic recovery.
 
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The World in 1700 AD......

The Unification of Great Britannia in 1612-13 AD has remained a focal point in World History during the 17th Century. The Victory of the Protestants in the 20 Years War has made the Habsburgs go on the backfoot most definitely. In the East, the Ottomans continue to expand, and a resurgent Iran pushes into Central Asia. The Mughals are in the decline as the British, Dutch and French East India Companies close in for more influence as the Empire wanes. Qing China in the Far East is ascendant. Sweden remains the hegemon of the North and their colony of Gustavia in South America has become successful as a venture, establishing Sweden as a colonial power.
The 18th Century will be a spectacle to behold, that's for sure.....

Basically the world in 1700 from my TL The Union of Crowns: A Timeline (link in sig).
 

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Venus, la Constitution et le Peuple


You all know the story, the Angevines pop out somewhere and proceed to wreak havoc on the native populations. Well, here is something guaranteed to trigger all Balkanic people :3, the Union of Angevine Socialist Republics.

Okay so basically, the year is 1867, and the Hungarians are getting more independence from Wien. What is also happening, doe, is the fact a bunch of new guys, with 20th century tech, appear near Budapest. They seize it and force the Hungarian king to abdicate, instead creating their own little nation. The Austrians are dumbfounded, but when the new management tells them to carry on cause they don't want to secede, they sorta do carry on. Meanwhile, Hungary is getting the very fancy treatment they would've loved to apply to their minorities. But not only Hungarians, everyone gets it. In the Plains Province at least. The other provinces act more as a sort of resettlement location.

Anyway, the year is 1889, and "Hungary" has been thouroughly industrialized, it was time for "Hungary" to grab its independence. And so they did: Austria was kill. The Prussians ate the western half, while Wien and so on became "Hungarian" states. Bosnia and Serbia were eaten as well, together with Romania. Sure, the Russians and French tried to oppose em, but not much artillery can do against a jet bomber.

So anyway, its 1890 now and the former Austro-"Hungarian" Empire is defunct. The Angevines look at the borders, then at an ethnic map. They rule a rather large empire spanning tens of ethnicities, so what better thing to do than to proclaim a Union of Socialist Angevine Republics. Sure, the monarchy is still in place, and the state religion still gives the Emperors the nicknames of Venus and Mars, but alas, the proletariat are finally in charge. Except... Romania and Austria are still kingdoms, constitutional monarchies, but same thing. However, the workers do live in a rather nice country, especially in the 20th century, considering the fact the Nazis and Italians up north would kill you for being anything left of center.

So during WW1, the UASR stood neutral, supplying troops to the Entente. However, they did not intervene very much, joining the war in 1917. Russia still became the USSR, but owing to most socialists having fled to the UASR, the Revolution wasn't as powerful, and during WW2 the Russians lost Moscow, temporarely. The UASR joined WW2 in 1944, starting immediate assaults on all Axis-aligned countries bordering them, relieving pressure from the Soviet Front, and striking at Germany's industrial centers with ease.

After WW2, the country was in a similar position to Yugoslavia. They didn't really exert any foreign influence (overt, at least), and were neutral to hostile to the USSR. In the 1990s, with the death of one of the better Prime-Ministers, the Angevines decided to dissolve the UASR, "just to see the chaos that'll ensue." Following that, they became sorta like religious figureheads, staying away from politics (while eating popcorn).

All in all, I think early variants of the "project"'s name sum it up perfectly: Serbian Artillery is led by Mars, and the iconic Venus is a Romanian.


P.S.: This was born out of a nice discussion in a discord server, and originally it was a sort of in-server joke about just how cursed and bloody the civil war that'll ensue will be. The answer is: yes
 
The World in 1700 AD......

The Unification of Great Britannia in 1612-13 AD has remained a focal point in World History during the 17th Century. The Victory of the Protestants in the 20 Years War has made the Habsburgs go on the backfoot most definitely. In the East, the Ottomans continue to expand, and a resurgent Iran pushes into Central Asia. The Mughals are in the decline as the British, Dutch and French East India Companies close in for more influence as the Empire wanes. Qing China in the Far East is ascendant. Sweden remains the hegemon of the North and their colony of Gustavia in South America has become successful as a venture, establishing Sweden as a colonial power.
The 18th Century will be a spectacle to behold, that's for sure.....
So if the pink thing in Chile is some kind of Mapuche rebellion, then what about the blue one in southern Argentina? Independent nation? French Colony? Native confederation? New Sweden?
 
So if the pink thing in Chile is some kind of Mapuche rebellion, then what about the blue one in southern Argentina? Independent nation? French Colony? Native confederation? New Sweden?
Not a Mapuche Rebellion per say. Despite the Spanish claim to the region, the area was under the de facto control of the Mapuche Tribes and Confederacies until their conquest by the Chileans 150 years later. their placement on the map isn't really a rebellion as such.
The Blue is Gustavia, the first real settler colony of Sweden.
 

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Venus, la Constitution et le Peuple


You all know the story, the Angevines pop out somewhere and proceed to wreak havoc on the native populations. Well, here is something guaranteed to trigger all Balkanic people :3, the Union of Angevine Socialist Republics.

Okay so basically, the year is 1867, and the Hungarians are getting more independence from Wien. What is also happening, doe, is the fact a bunch of new guys, with 20th century tech, appear near Budapest. They seize it and force the Hungarian king to abdicate, instead creating their own little nation. The Austrians are dumbfounded, but when the new management tells them to carry on cause they don't want to secede, they sorta do carry on. Meanwhile, Hungary is getting the very fancy treatment they would've loved to apply to their minorities. But not only Hungarians, everyone gets it. In the Plains Province at least. The other provinces act more as a sort of resettlement location.

Anyway, the year is 1889, and "Hungary" has been thouroughly industrialized, it was time for "Hungary" to grab its independence. And so they did: Austria was kill. The Prussians ate the western half, while Wien and so on became "Hungarian" states. Bosnia and Serbia were eaten as well, together with Romania. Sure, the Russians and French tried to oppose em, but not much artillery can do against a jet bomber.

So anyway, its 1890 now and the former Austro-"Hungarian" Empire is defunct. The Angevines look at the borders, then at an ethnic map. They rule a rather large empire spanning tens of ethnicities, so what better thing to do than to proclaim a Union of Socialist Angevine Republics. Sure, the monarchy is still in place, and the state religion still gives the Emperors the nicknames of Venus and Mars, but alas, the proletariat are finally in charge. Except... Romania and Austria are still kingdoms, constitutional monarchies, but same thing. However, the workers do live in a rather nice country, especially in the 20th century, considering the fact the Nazis and Italians up north would kill you for being anything left of center.

So during WW1, the UASR stood neutral, supplying troops to the Entente. However, they did not intervene very much, joining the war in 1917. Russia still became the USSR, but owing to most socialists having fled to the UASR, the Revolution wasn't as powerful, and during WW2 the Russians lost Moscow, temporarely. The UASR joined WW2 in 1944, starting immediate assaults on all Axis-aligned countries bordering them, relieving pressure from the Soviet Front, and striking at Germany's industrial centers with ease.

After WW2, the country was in a similar position to Yugoslavia. They didn't really exert any foreign influence (overt, at least), and were neutral to hostile to the USSR. In the 1990s, with the death of one of the better Prime-Ministers, the Angevines decided to dissolve the UASR, "just to see the chaos that'll ensue." Following that, they became sorta like religious figureheads, staying away from politics (while eating popcorn).

All in all, I think early variants of the "project"'s name sum it up perfectly: Serbian Artillery is led by Mars, and the iconic Venus is a Romanian.


P.S.: This was born out of a nice discussion in a discord server, and originally it was a sort of in-server joke about just how cursed and bloody the civil war that'll ensue will be. The answer is: yes
Why Angevines especially ? Why them and not like, IDK, Orleanese or Walloons ?
 
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