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Just have them beat each other up at the podium outside the Capitol. Whoever knocks the other out is president. Far less messy than a war.
Better to have them play The Price is Right but with shit like groceries and life necessities. That way the one who's most in touch with the general population wins and you can't get someone like Mitt Romney.
 
A pair of maps, courtesy of @Jupiter's Auroras (u/alex-leclerc from Reddit): one in which the US won the War of 1812, leading to more Southern slave states being created to counter the vastly expanded North; and one in which the British won, leading the US down a slaveocratic path and the Northeastern states seceding, forcing the capital to be relocated away from the new border to St. Louis.
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A pair of maps, courtesy of u/alex-leclerc from Reddit: one in which the US won the War of 1812, leading to more Southern slave states being created to counter the vastly expanded North; and one in which the British won, leading the US down a slaveocratic path and the Northeastern states seceding, forcing the capital to be relocated to St. Louis.
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Around 1812 St. Louis had a population of like 2000 people. It's also in the middle of a massive landmass before the invention of the railroad. It's not going to become the capital.
 
Around 1812 St. Louis had a population of like 2000 people. It's also in the middle of a massive landmass before the invention of the railroad. It's not going to become the capital.
The maps are set in the modern day, hence the National/American Atlas web addresses. Based on the author’s comments, the Northeastern secession likely happened much later, when the political balance between free and slave states became untenable (with the Slave Power increasingly dominant and perhaps a pro-slavery Southerner being elected President, the inverse of OTL); so probably around the mid- to late-19th century.

Note how Indiana also encompasses all of OTL Illinois, with the state capital named after Tecumseh: it was originally an independent Native American nation set up by the victorious British as an allied buffer state, only to end up being absorbed by the US anyway later on.
 
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I did see that, and it partially scratches the itch, but...it wasn't quite what I was looking for. I specifically wanted something that was not anchored to OTL and not (very) recognizable. For instance, your map has a United States of America on it; I wanted to see a map where there had never even been a Thirteen Colonies, let alone a U.S.
Might this perhaps scratch your itch? It's hardly recognisable at all.



Not mine, it's from Reddit. By u/Moshi_Moo
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The first Portuguese trading ships arrived in the lands of Nihon in 1543, from there it would take only 100 years for Christianity to become Japan's majority religion and for the Christian clans to overthrow the emperor and unify the isles. The religion rapidly expanded, particularly in Quiuxu, where the Xavierians successfully converted the Daimyos, with the most notable being the daimyo of the Otomo clan. The arrival of the Portuguese brought another major invention: the matchlock. The matchlock would change warfare forever in Japan, as they would be mass produced in a way not seen around the world, and tactics would rapidly change in favour of guns. The Otomo clan were the first to successfully implement these guns into their army with Portuguese and Spanish help. The Otomo clan unified the island of Quiuxu, and then plotted punitive expeditions to force conversions and conquer. the Island of Xicocu fell in 1570. With all of Western Nihon on their side, the Otomo then set their sights on overthrowing the Xogun. With the help of a combined Portuguese/Spanish army, Quioto fell in 1578, and Otomo Furanucesuco naming himself both Xogun and "Rei", banishing the Emperor from his castle. The further unification of Nihon would not be completed till 1610. In 1613, the son of the Emperor gathered an army and marched on Quioto, marking the beginning of the 40 years of turmoil known as the "Nihonese Wars of Religion". The war split the country in three, between the Catholic Quirixitans supported by the Portuguese and the Spanish, the supporters of the Emperor supported by the Dutch and the English, and the radically Buddhist Icco Icqui supported among the rural peasantry. The wars devastated the Cansai, Chubu, Tohocu, and Canto regions. The war ended in 1646 when the Rei Otomo Jan announced the Edict of Edo, which guaranteed the religious freedoms of subjects in the empire. A new capital was built as Quioto had become to damaged to hold a court. The city of Toquio was founded from the city of Edo. The aftermath of the religious wars lead to the "quiet 150 years", where little happened in Nihonese history. In 1801 an expedition conquered Hoccaido, Carafuto, and the Chixima islands, the beginnings of Nihon's colonial empire. Nihon's absolutism was challenged in 1852, when revolutionary behaviours in Europe finally reached. Nihon's first constitution gave voting rights to all Catholic male members of the Xizocu class. Voting rights would be gradually spread across the population, with all members being allowed to vote in 1930. The industrialization of Nihon brought many problems, including a notable resource issue. In 1890 Nihon invaded Riuquiu and Corea, and claimed multiple treaty ports in Cathay. This began a period from 1890 to 1950 where Nihon followed an Imperialistic policy. in 1920 the Nihonese overthrew the Shun, placing a puppet government in place in Nanking, leading to the collapse of authority in Cathay. the Nihonese Empire peaked in 1932 when Nihon occupied Manchuria. In 1945 the Niho-Russian War began. Initially a stalemate, years of war exhaustion from adventures in Cathay destroyed Nihon's will to fight. In 1949, Nihon sued for peace, giving the Russian Empire Carafuto and Chixima, and relinquishing control of Corea, Manchuria, Riuquiu, and all territories in Cathay. Since then Nihon's economy and cultural sectors have rapidly advanced, with Nihon having now the worlds 5 largest economy and being a popular exporter of culture (anime) to many Latin American countries.
 
Might this perhaps scratch your itch? It's hardly recognisable at all.


Very nice find, but according to the link it's from a world where Europe apparently never got out of the Bronze age, and it's some 3500 years in the future of OTL 1492, so it's not so much our world without colonization as a completely different one with the *Americas never being contacted. (And the *Americas are apparently starting to colonize the old world...)
 
leading the US down a slaveocratic path and the Northeastern states seceding, forcing the capital to be relocated to St. Louis.

I'd expect the slave-state dominated one to annex more of Mexico, a la Decades of Darkness (they'd probably not be as successful as DoD, but they'd certainly _try_: the Confederates had very large ambitions OTL, and this US-version has a lot more resources to work with. I see they've taken Cuba, which certainly indicates the UK wasn't trying that hard to keep them from expanding, or was badly distracted at the time).
 
the shitshow continues;
Political situation of the United States as of March 1861, after the D.C. riots, assassination of Hannible Hamlin and start of the american civil war

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Terra (earth) during the Age of Strife in Warhammer 40k. Lasting from the 25th to the 30th millennium (25,000-30,000 CE), the Age of Strife was marked by Terra's isolation from its colonies and the subsequent descent into anarchy. Mutants, warlords, and Psykers rampaged throughout the planet, which also saw the loss of most of its oceans due to a combination of unrestrained nuclear war and the body heat from the hundreds of billions that lived there. The most prominent forces, however, were the Techno-Barbarians, who carved out their own states across the planet.

These included the states of Merica, Hy Brasil, Europa, Albyon, the Panpacific Empire, Jermani, Franc, the Nordafrik Conclaves, Gyptus, Nordyc, the Terrawatt Clans, the Yndonesic Bloc, Orioc, Ursh, Sa'Afrik, Hymalazia, the Achaemid Empire, Abyssna, the Caucasus Wastes (or The Ethnarchy), the Kievan Rus Khaganate, Ur-Atlan, and Old Albia. There also existed numerous Hive Cities; massive urban complexes that each housed millions or billions of people, as well as the ruins of numerous older civilizations, such as the godless people who carved enormous sculptures of their kings into the sides of the Marianas Canyon.

The Age of Strife came to an end during the Unification Wars, when the Emperor of Mankind conquered and united the disparate states under his banner.

(Based on this great map by emwattnot1 on reddit)
 
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The first Portuguese trading ships arrived in the lands of Nihon in 1543, from there it would take only 100 years for Christianity to become Japan's majority religion and for the Christian clans to overthrow the emperor and unify the isles. The religion rapidly expanded, particularly in Quiuxu, where the Xavierians successfully converted the Daimyos, with the most notable being the daimyo of the Otomo clan. The arrival of the Portuguese brought another major invention: the matchlock. The matchlock would change warfare forever in Japan, as they would be mass produced in a way not seen around the world, and tactics would rapidly change in favour of guns. The Otomo clan were the first to successfully implement these guns into their army with Portuguese and Spanish help. The Otomo clan unified the island of Quiuxu, and then plotted punitive expeditions to force conversions and conquer. the Island of Xicocu fell in 1570. With all of Western Nihon on their side, the Otomo then set their sights on overthrowing the Xogun. With the help of a combined Portuguese/Spanish army, Quioto fell in 1578, and Otomo Furanucesuco naming himself both Xogun and "Rei", banishing the Emperor from his castle. The further unification of Nihon would not be completed till 1610. In 1613, the son of the Emperor gathered an army and marched on Quioto, marking the beginning of the 40 years of turmoil known as the "Nihonese Wars of Religion". The war split the country in three, between the Catholic Quirixitans supported by the Portuguese and the Spanish, the supporters of the Emperor supported by the Dutch and the English, and the radically Buddhist Icco Icqui supported among the rural peasantry. The wars devastated the Cansai, Chubu, Tohocu, and Canto regions. The war ended in 1646 when the Rei Otomo Jan announced the Edict of Edo, which guaranteed the religious freedoms of subjects in the empire. A new capital was built as Quioto had become to damaged to hold a court. The city of Toquio was founded from the city of Edo. The aftermath of the religious wars lead to the "quiet 150 years", where little happened in Nihonese history. In 1801 an expedition conquered Hoccaido, Carafuto, and the Chixima islands, the beginnings of Nihon's colonial empire. Nihon's absolutism was challenged in 1852, when revolutionary behaviours in Europe finally reached. Nihon's first constitution gave voting rights to all Catholic male members of the Xizocu class. Voting rights would be gradually spread across the population, with all members being allowed to vote in 1930. The industrialization of Nihon brought many problems, including a notable resource issue. In 1890 Nihon invaded Riuquiu and Corea, and claimed multiple treaty ports in Cathay. This began a period from 1890 to 1950 where Nihon followed an Imperialistic policy. in 1920 the Nihonese overthrew the Shun, placing a puppet government in place in Nanking, leading to the collapse of authority in Cathay. the Nihonese Empire peaked in 1932 when Nihon occupied Manchuria. In 1945 the Niho-Russian War began. Initially a stalemate, years of war exhaustion from adventures in Cathay destroyed Nihon's will to fight. In 1949, Nihon sued for peace, giving the Russian Empire Carafuto and Chixima, and relinquishing control of Corea, Manchuria, Riuquiu, and all territories in Cathay. Since then Nihon's economy and cultural sectors have rapidly advanced, with Nihon having now the worlds 5 largest economy and being a popular exporter of culture (anime) to many Latin American countries.

Oh an Otomo win. Did the other clans have a shameful display?

Also what is the key to the colour map?
 
Here is a map I made a while back not to much lore to it pretty proud of it tho.
the things I do remember is that Russia is a nuclear wasteland after its facist leader dies it falls to civil war and nukes itself that being the reason for no russian moonbases.
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Better to have them play The Price is Right but with shit like groceries and life necessities. That way the one who's most in touch with the general population wins and you can't get someone like Mitt Romney.
Kindly restrict political commentary to Chat.

Thanks.
 
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Based upon Whatifalthis geopolitics video and predictions on the future, I made a WorldA map on how he views the world in the 22nd Century.
 
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