Because of Magyarization, Hungary had worse ethnic tensions before the war than Austria. I think with a late Central Powers victory, Austria would stand a good chance of holding together, but Hungary would have a good chance of collapsing. Towards the end of the war Austria-Hungary was militarily heavily dependent on Germany. Germany is going to want to focus its forces on France and Italy once Russia's wiped out. They're not going to want to police Austria-Hungary's internal affairs, and even if they did get drawn into that, I think it would be likely to increase pan-Germanistic sentiment.
What does "collapse" mean? Is it brought back under direct rule from Vienna, reverting to pre-1867?
Hungary's ethnic minorities would probably be more comfortable with rule from Vienna compared to rule from Budapest, but the Hungarians wouldn't like that, and even if rule from Vienna was the lesser evil, I'm not sure ethnolinguistic nationalists would accept it with a late Central Powers victory.
A victorious peace does.

There won't be any availability of the Entente to prevent the immediate resumption of trade. That's called being defeated.

South American countries will be straining at the leash to get exports to the Central Powers - they won, they have credit. In fact, Britain and France may face complete food disaster, their credit has crashed in defeat, their exchequers are in a disastrous position, and their trading partners are now looking to those whose credit is good.
If France falls, maintaining the blockade of Germany would mean extending it to both France and Spain (or at least the northwest coast of Spain). Even if that doesn't lead to any other countries joining the Central Powers it would torpedo the British economy because the USA (and possibly countries in Europe) would retaliate with economic sanctions. America had a lot of trade with Britain, but Washington would not take kindly to being shut out of almost all trade with the mainland Europe.
 
Because of Magyarization, Hungary had worse ethnic tensions before the war than Austria. Austria would stand a good chance of holding together, but Hungary would have a good chance of collapsing.
The fact that Austria imploded, while Hungary actually needed to be occupied after WW1 makes me believe otherwise.

Towards the end of the war Austria-Hungary was militarily heavily dependent on Germany. Germany is going to want to focus its forces on France and Italy once Russia's wiped out. They're not going to want to police Austria-Hungary's internal affairs, and even if they did get drawn into that, I think it would be likely to increase pan-Germanistic sentiment.
A-H needed German military assisstance against external threats. That holds no relevance to the post-war period. In absence of an ongoing world war, A-H was completely capable of keeping itself together.
 
Hungary's ethnic minorities would probably be more comfortable with rule from Vienna compared to rule from Budapest, but the Hungarians wouldn't like that, and even if rule from Vienna was the lesser evil, I'm not sure ethnolinguistic nationalists would accept it with a late Central Powers victory.

Are they in a position to accept or reject anything?

If the CPs have won, that means Russia, Rumania Serbia and Italy are all defeated and unable to help. So the minorities' only practical options are Vienna or Budapest.
 
The fact that Austria imploded, while Hungary actually needed to be occupied after WW1 makes me believe otherwise.
? Military force from the Entente kept "German Austria" from joining Germany. And the Slovaks in Hungary certainly weren't more content to remain part of Hungary than the Czechs were to remain part of Austria.
Are they in a position to accept or reject anything?

If the CPs have won, that means Russia, Rumania Serbia and Italy are all defeated and unable to help. So the minorities' only practical options are Vienna or Budapest.
Winning a conventional war between countries doesn't make you immune to civil war and it doesn't necessarily stop your empire from falling apart. Look at Britain; the process of winning the world wars weakened their grip on their empire, and if we're talking about World War I specifically, there was a war shortly thereafter which resulted in most of Ireland ceasing to be part of the UK.
 
? Military force from the Entente kept "German Austria" from joining Germany. And the Slovaks in Hungary certainly weren't more content to remain part of Hungary than the Czechs were to remain part of Austria.
You don't get it. The Hungarian government retained control over all of the country's territory (sans Croatia) all the way until foreign powers marched into the country and occupied those lands that would later be ripped from the country. The same cannot be said about Austria, since the Czechs, Poles and Ruthenians broke off on their own.
 
Let us assume the war ends in 1918 by a successful Spring Offensive. France is knocked out of the war. It is not clear why the UK and US would also want a peace when the shadow of the future was on their side. But let us assume for whatever reason the US, UK and Germany decide to ram a peace through. By default this will be a negotiated peace as UK-US power is too much for Germany to impose anything unliterally on them. So peace largely in the state of the fronts in August 1918. What does that mean on the Frontlines

Middle East-No Battle of Megiddo, so no collapse of Ottoman Positions in Palestine, Bagdad in British hands.
Caucasus- Treaty of Batum in power, Transcaucasian Federation broken, and Ottoman control of Batumi and Baku, simmering Ottoman-German conflict over Georgia
Italy-2nd Battle of Piave stabilizes Italian front, but no Vittorio Veneto
Balkans-Skra still happens leading to change of Goverment in Bulgaria but no Dobro Pole

This largely gives a potential idea of how the German's get peace from the US and UK. A neutralized France (with a regime change), and avoidance of major territorial changes in the West (instead opting for economic integration) and recognition of German gains in Eastern Europe and the Balkans in return for recognition of British gains elsewhere, mainly the Middle East.

For the Ottomans this means the following: 1) No gain of Egypt or Cyprus 2) Loss of Mesopotamia and what today is Israel and Palestine, but retention of Mosul and Syria. 3) I fully expect the Germans to press them hard on the Caucasus were they already had fought each other . And I expect the Germans to use the British for this. Thus Britain gets Iran in order to cooperate in forcing the Ottomans to evacuate Baku. The Azerbaijani Republic becomes a Ottoman-German condomium (ala Iran as a Russo-British one), Rump Armenia is either made a Ottoman protectorate or included in Azerbaijan as an autonomous region to maximize intervention opportunities , while Georgia becomes a German Protectorate. The Germans probably let the Ottomans have Batum, but with major basing and commercial concessions. Another area for compensation for the Ottomans would be granting them back the Eastern Aegean Islands taking them for Greece that probably has fallen into a deep political crisis.

Now the good news for the Ottomans is that they keep a lot of land they might had lost, and gain territory but they now border at least one Arab state, with a province (Syria)that was an epicenter of arabic demands for political equality and autonomy, and are in active competition with Germany in the Caucasus. Also that region is now also the main area of habituate of the Ottoman Armenian population. There is no 1918 re-patriation of Ottoman Armenians so the bulk of the expellees are now stuck in Syria. Thus the Ottomans border on two shatterzoes (Caucasus and Syria-Mosul) with hostile major powers able to influence local populations. Thus at least in those two areas they do face a threat. On the other hand no collapse of 1918 means amelioration of the nationalities issues. The Armenians are broken by genocidal policies, and scattered among Kurdish and Arab populations in Syria, or sandwiched between Azerbaijan and the Ottoman Empire. About 1/3rd of Greeks were expelled or deported in 1914-1918 . As with Ottoman Armenians they are not going to be repatriated as in historical 1918. I expect an intensification of the types of population engineering Fuat Dundar noted, and a continuation of the push to force the majority of the Ottoman Greek population to involuntarily migrate.

So a lot depends on a) how well the Ottomans balance Britain and Germany b) how well they accommodate Syrian Arab demands for autonomy, and perhaps Kurdish ones c) how they leverage Soviet renaissance . My view is that they will fail, and thus long-term I do see them losing Syria, and potentially Mosul. But they probably keep most of their eastern and western borders.

For the Austro-Hungarians. Well you already had a looming constitutional showdown before 1914 and I cannot see how this is avoided after victory. Probably the Austro-Hungarians are forced to vacate most of Italy with he exceptions of key military sites and border adjustments. The Serbian problem is resolved by letting Bulgaria keep what it got, attaching Kosovo to Albania, and establishing a Montenegrin dynasty in Serbia but prohibiting a union of Montenegro with Serbia. This will require though a long term military occupation and you can expect bickering between Vienna and Budapest over control. Both the Austrian and the Hungarian parts will face a constitutional crisis but it is hard to predict how it turns out. But unlike in the case of the Ottomans, I do not expect any German reason to make their life difficult, and Britain will probably stay out of this just keeping preeminent influence in a smaller Greece as part of a network of positions permitting it domination of the East Mediterranean.I do expect the Germans to seek to domiante Romania the same way they will domiante Georgia, giving them if you want two opposite shores for domination of the Black Sea.

So I expect the Austro-Hungarians to go through some rough political times but no dissolution.

So long story short. Things are more difficult for the Ottoman due to a) competition with Germany b) presence of a powerful UK, but less difficult for he Austro-Hungarians.
 
Let us assume the war ends in 1918 by a successful Spring Offensive. France is knocked out of the war. It is not clear why the UK and US would also want a peace when the shadow of the future was on their side. But let us assume for whatever reason the US, UK and Germany decide to ram a peace through. By default this will be a negotiated peace as UK-US power is too much for Germany to impose anything unliterally on them. So peace largely in the state of the fronts in August 1918. What does that mean on the Frontlines
I'm not particularly convinced about this. So yes lets accept the Germans did manage to knock the BEF out in Michael and following this the Germans were able to force the French back into Paris, which one notes was massively fortified already before 1914 so is not falling without massive bloodbath and France capitulates. Or at least a French government capitulates I would be hardly surprised to see a split within France with a Free France trying to hold out on the Loire with US help or from Algiers even. From there to actual peace there is still a distance. The British and Americans still hold naval supremacy, dozens of British divisions are now not in France and the Americans are still on their way. Where do the British and Americans go? Reinvasion of France it out of the question, that's 1918 we are talking about. Support Italy and the potential fighting France on the south, seems obvious, there is no chance the Germans have the logistics to knock Italy out of the war but neither can the Italians even with British and American support push beyond the Alps. A potential south/western French front if France split between a collaborationist regime in Paris and Fighting France is going to be interesting, allied logistics rely on Marseilles and with some lack Brest and Bordeaux but both sides will be facing logistical constraints, so stalemate along the Loire probably?

Which leaves the Balkans and Middle East where the British and Americans can move forces much more easily than the Germans, how many divisions can the Germans supply from a single railroad down from Belgrade while also keeping the Bulgarian and Ottoman armies supplied with arms and munitions? Meanwhile the British and Americans have dozens of divisions that cannot be used elsewhere. There is some point of balance likely between the ability of the Anglo-Americans to push north from Salonica into the Balkans and the Austro-Germans to stop them but I wouldn't much like the prospects of the Ottomans or for that matter the Bulgarians between a reinforced Allenby and an equally reinforced Macedonian front.

For the Ottomans this means the following: 1) No gain of Egypt or Cyprus 2) Loss of Mesopotamia and what today is Israel and Palestine, but retention of Mosul and Syria. 3) I fully expect the Germans to press them hard on the Caucasus were they already had fought each other . And I expect the Germans to use the British for this. Thus Britain gets Iran in order to cooperate in forcing the Ottomans to evacuate Baku. The Azerbaijani Republic becomes a Ottoman-German condomium (ala Iran as a Russo-British one), Rump Armenia is either made a Ottoman protectorate or included in Azerbaijan as an autonomous region to maximize intervention opportunities , while Georgia becomes a German Protectorate. The Germans probably let the Ottomans have Batum, but with major basing and commercial concessions. Another area for compensation for the Ottomans would be granting them back the Eastern Aegean Islands taking them for Greece that probably has fallen into a deep political crisis.
I don't see why it would be in the British interest to do so here. Greece is for every practical purpose their forward position to holding the east Mediterranean against German dominated Europe. All the more so if peace was concluded with Bulgaria and the Ottomans still standing as viable German allies. If anything I would not be altogether surprised to see Cyprus given to Greece in this scenario, the Venizelist regime will be under considerable pressure internally but for the British it is the only game in town, the Royalists are not an option with a hostile unbroken Germany around to which Constantine is closely associated. So it needs to be propped up any way possible. Cyprus and North Epirus (with Greek troops replacing the French there) seem obvious options to do so.
 
fMy supposed was already based on the best possible alternative for Germany. IMHO even with Paris falling, barring the improbable ability of the German Army to surround and destroy the BEF and Belgians I just see France doing what it did in 1871. Only this time with massive US forces just around the corner. Realistically there is no way for Germany to win WW1 once the US enters it and once we get to 1918.

Thus all my scenarios here are assuming an extra ounce of luck for Germany.

I am not disagreeing with you. It really depends on the kind of political crisis in Greece. But the Germans will have to compensate the Ottomans somewhere for blocking their Caucasian ambitions.
 
fMy supposed was already based on the best possible alternative for Germany. IMHO even with Paris falling, barring the improbable ability of the German Army to surround and destroy the BEF and Belgians I just see France doing what it did in 1871. Only this time with massive US forces just around the corner. Realistically there is no way for Germany to win WW1 once the US enters it and once we get to 1918.

Thus all my scenarios here are assuming an extra ounce of luck for Germany.

I am not disagreeing with you. It really depends on the kind of political crisis in Greece. But the Germans will have to compensate the Ottomans somewhere for blocking their Caucasian ambitions.
It's a whale against elephant problem. Even if Germany has won on land it cannot challenge the Allied navies, all the more so in the Mediterranean. So the Germans may want to compensate the Ottomans .They have no way of doing so at the peace treaty. Of course they can back a war by proxy between the Ottomans and Greece shortly after, a repaired Goeben and additional ships from the High Seas Fleet would be giving the Ottomans naval superiority on paper. But it's near certain the British would be propping up the Greek navy in this scenario as a counter as well, say for example selling HMS Canada on top of the ships that were to be sold at a discount as part of the Kelly naval program in OTL. So we may well see the war we did not have in 1914 around say 1921.
 
That is possible. That said you are preaching to the choir. By 1918 the Germans could not win the war. Contrary to many myths, the majority position the US Senate was to support a war against Germany. The thing they quibbled about was the terms under which the US would engage in the European BOP (and personal dislike of Wilson who was a difficult chap). But supporting the UK and France was not an issue
 
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