Thoughts on the chapter? The next one will be about Africa. Any predictions?
A great, if horrifying update (a Third Intifada? Jesus!), but two things:Thoughts on the chapter? The next one will be about Africa. Any predictions?
The reason for Israel's quick advance on Cairo is due to Egypt not believing Israel would invade and luck. After Egypt suffers heavy losses when being pushed out of the Sinai they figure that the Israeli government would stop there, giving them a false sense of security. Furthermore, the UN was actively mediating meetings between Egypt and Israel so to them peace was in sight. When Israel attacks the mainland of Egypt the forces are caught off guard and a few lucky encirclements swiftly eliminate the well-trained units. After the opening battles were clear Israeli victories and with the force in Arish encircled the Egyptians lack the morale or numbers to defeat the IDF. But you're right on this one. I drastically underestimated how brutal the war was and how slow the advance would be. So thank you for pointing that out and I edited the chapter to drag out the war a couple of months.A great, if horrifying update (a Third Intifada? Jesus!), but two things:
Would Shamir really go for all-out regime change? From what I know about him he was a hardliner, sure, but that was more he didn't want to make any concessions in negotiations with Sadat or the PLO, not that he would order the full-scale invasion of Egypt and overthrow of their government.
I'm also a bit surprised at how easily the Israelis overpowered the Egyptian army -- in the OTL Yom Kippur War, the Israeli advance to Suez City was bloody and took a week, and that was right next to the canal. Surely advancing 60 miles to Cairo would take a lot longer and be an absolutely brutal slog.
As for predictions, I definitely think Israel will become more and more insular and obsessed with self-sufficiency, now that the US wants nothing to do with them. Perhaps they form some sort of bloc with India.
No. Israel is not defeated as a nation but diplomatically. The Western Bloc views Israel as an extremist state led by far-right nationalists (keep in mind we haven't even gotten to Israeli politics which I can assure you are worse than OTL and no Meir Kahane is not becoming PM). Israel's war crimes are more exposed to the West and both the left and the right have pro-Arab elements. The left out of a concern for the rights of Palestinians and the right out of a sort of solidarity with Islam, viewing the socially conservative beliefs as similar to their socially conservative beliefs. Plus, Israel is funding Saddam so that's bound to piss them off which will be instrumental in having the Republicans adopting a pro-Arab stance. The Democrats will be neutral and walking a tight rope in an effort not to piss off the left or the right of the party.Does this hint to a complete defeat of Israel? If it does, Cianci would surely get in on the refugees fleeing the second holocaust.
Spencer joining the PLO, or some other group would be cursed. I definitely see someone like John Bolton or Sean Hannity advocating for arming the PLO to get back at Israel for sabotaging US allies in the region. I haven't mapped out any far-right figures besides Joseph Sobran who with Israel becoming a pariah state gains traction amongst the reactionaries of the party. The non-antisemitic pro-Arab wing I envision being led by Betsy DeVos or Bob Dornan (the former becoming a Bill O'Riley esque figure on some right-wing TV channel).PLO simps and Richard Spencer -esque weirdos may go and actually form a united front. For maximum cursedness.
IIRC I think so. Malan’s not going to be starting a civil war or using WMDs. His regime will be known as one of the worst of the 20th century, mentioned in the same breath as fascist Italy. All I’ll say for certain is that TTL’s transition to a full democracy will be much bloodier.Wasn't Magnus Malan the guy who became dictator of South Africa in Rumsfeldia? Though I assume this will not end with South Africa collapsing into a nuclear civil war.
Thank you!I usually lurk and follow, but popping in here to say that I'm enjoying the heck out of this and excited for whatever's next (those hints laid down for what's to come are utterly compelling).
Eh pretty close considering the new chapter. Funnily enough I originally thought of having Dan Crane cheat on Cianci's wife, but I felt like that was too implausible. But considering I had Cianci go full mob boss in this chapter maybe not as implausible as I thought.
As Kaiser Julius posted above the chapter he was IOTL. That’s not even counting his corruption. The difference between TTL and IOTL Cianci is one has the federal government under his control which makes committing crimes so much easier and allows him to go bigger.Dear God Cianci is a monster.
Buddy Cianci is too busy with work to do much with his wife, leading to a strained marriage. Mrs. Cianci is trapped however as she knows cheating on Cianci would backfire amongst the press and turn Cianci's wrath onto her. She doesn't know about Cianci's crimes but figures something is up due to his long phone calls with "friends in high places."What is Mrs. Cianci doing ITTL?