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Confederate states with Pacific Coast

How can the Confederate states have Coast to Pacific?

What would the civil war be like?

The relationship with the United States, Europe, Latin America and Mexico

Relations with china and japan?

Possible confederate victory?

Could the Confederates try to get more slaves along the Pacific coast?
 
A stronger Pro-Confederate support in southern California. There was small support for South California to secede and join the Confederacy but It didn't get far due to low support
 
It would require massive wanking on a NEAR-ASB level for the CSA. You're talking about the USA giving up San Diego and seriously put at risk the gold fields of California.
 
A stronger Pro-Confederate support in southern California. There was small support for South California to secede and join the Confederacy but It didn't get far due to low support

This, and to seal the deal, have H.H. Sibley do a far better job against the Union in the West. Hell, maybe recruit someone else to lead the campaign, as well as send more soldiers for it.

Can the CSA hold it, that's highly doubtful without foreign intervention (the usual British and France intervention).

There's also what I've seen with the Confederate States purchasing/conquering Sonora/Baja California to get their Pacific Coast, which kinda makes sense. But I'm more interested in what's basically a New Mexico Campaign wank, since Sibley aimed to conquer California, or at least Southern California. There were indeed visions of slavery being established there. It isn't the most suitable terrain for it, but that was always a goal.

And I suspect the Confederate States's response to Chinese immigration would probably make the OTL US look good. But as long as both States don't have a Chinese Exclusion Act, then immigrants will still come, if only to go to whatever country is doing better, which I suspect is probably gonna be the USA. Both states will need a Chinese Exclusion Act to really change things up. In which case you'll see the OTL examples of Chinese coming in from Canada and Mexico, just changing things up to account for California being divided (no way in hell is the CSA gonna get ALL of California in whatever treaty/ceasefire ends the ACW).
 
It would require massive wanking on a NEAR-ASB level for the CSA. You're talking about the USA giving up San Diego and seriously put at risk the gold fields of California.

How about a delayed gold rush causing California to develop in the agrarian direction tha Johan Sutter originally envisioned?
 
US annexes Sonora and Chihuahua during the Mexican-American War and the CSA leaves with them?

Would the US let that happen? You're shifting the New Mexico Campaign south. They'll find CSA support, no doubt, and the CSA would probably dispatch a unit like Sibley's to go defend them. But being with the amount of Mexicans in a level far beyond New Mexico, what might their level of Union support be? Maybe the CSA could leave with them, but you're gonna have a battlefield in those regions regardless.
 

Saphroneth

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@Saphroneth has the CSA wind up with southern California at the end of a Trent Intervention, it seems fairly plausible.
That's based on the very real detail that California came close to splitting in half immediately pre-war, combined with how SoCal was much more pro-Confederate (it was also much more sparsely populated).

IMO I think you could have either Union or Confederate having military domination short-term in California sans British intervention, simply because all the guns were in the gift of the garrison commander. OTL he was pro-Confederate but strictly principled, but an ATL garrison commander could be pro-Confederate and unscrupulous so only the pro-Confederate militias get the ~20K long arms in the state's armouries (going from memory). The trick is, as usual, getting the wider CSA independent. (Though a complete stop on California gold exports would probably ruin the Union war economy, so that might make it a lot easier than you'd think!)
 
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