Give yourself…to the dark side…This last update was the first time I’ve been seriously tempted to get the Megas Kyr level on Patreon. I’m usually just fine with the timeline but the depth and breadth of this timeline has me now wanting more. If I can see a deeply more detailed version of the first 200 years or so that’s just a bonus.
Well, it’s the ToT as seen through the eyes of Theodora Komnena, so it’s not the epic sage it would be if it were the ToT through the eyes of Andreas Drakos.That’s be a monster of a TV series. If phase 3 of the ToT is one season, that’d at least 30 episodes a season.
6 articles per month. Doing that.Also, JSTOR allows you to access 6 articles at a time for free last time I checked.
Do you have access to a good academic library?
Unless it’s changed, I can check books out from the local university library with my public library card, although for shorter periods than students.Even a shit one could be fine.
I don't know what it's like where b444 lives but universities are pretty much uniform now with their organization so maybe my experience could be applicable. At my uni you don't need a card to enter the library, just to check out, and you can use their computers to access the library's catalogue of online material and academic articles (JSTOR, Taylor & Francis, etc.) even without an account. You can use the library website remotely to find out if the materials you want are there and basically just make a shopping trip to read some books. You could also bring a USB to DL any articles or web sources for later reading.
The benefits of library membership is checking out material, renewal, remote access, and in my case Interlibrary Loans. You can still get to the books as a member of the general public. Even public libraries tend to have some good academic material that can be borrowed and a system to order books from other libraries.
Focusing on the bold, I’m aiming for something like that, although that is far in the future.Long-term post development of Nationalism the Triune state is 100% doomed. National identities will appear, they will demand rights, they will cause problems for the government, and they will have to eventually grant independence or concessions in some form. There are simply too many English and Irish for that and they are too geographically concentrated to be a minority that must toe the line due to being so outclassed like the Bretons, Welsh, Sorbs, Basques, Frisians, and other small minority groups within larger countries. However the form that this independence takes does not necessarily mean the end of the Triune state. The Romans will be developing a federal empire of sorts based around the framework of the despotates so there is no reason that the Trinues cannot do the same with England, France, Ireland, and their independent colonies. The resulting empire of one crown and many autonomous kingdoms/dominions could likely be perceived as one 'empire' in the modern TTL sense of the word. We IOTL may consider it many closely aligned independent countries but with a theoretical precedent of this sort of imperial power bloc presented by the Romans and Triunes this sort of inter-state compact could simply be perceived by TTL people as the modern expression of empire in a post-national age.
Not much changed from OTL. The Code of Justinian is still huge. Its significance well predates the POD and classical Imperial Rome is still the image of power and authority in European minds. Any concerns about associations with Constantinople can be brushed off by making distinctions between the heroic manly Romans and the decadent scheming Byzantines. (If this sounds like OTL, it’s not a bug.)On a side note, how is the various law codes of TTL Europe organized? Justinian Code screams Roman and I can't imagine many Latin monarchs keeping to it.
I'm wondering if there is a sense of English superiority in the Triune kingdom, after all, its kings were almost all British, and I'm wondering if any French people are pissed at being ruled by a bunch of Englishmen.
There is some. It directly models the Turco-Persian experience. There the Turks goes “Wait a minute, we conquered the Persians. Why in the world are they in charge and not us?”Said British kings probably speak French as their mother tongue and might not even speak English at all, so that probably tempers it a lot...
I don't know if this has already been answered, but how much progress have the Romans made on recovering the artifacts stolen during the Fourth Crusade?
Tons. After the Sack of Venice they methodically went through the city and brought back as many artifacts as they could carry - including the horses.
B444 also mentioned that will be one of the updates coming soon, about Rhomania getting back as much of it's lost legacy.
See, this does leave me at a loss here. We don't exactly have a situation to get the undisputed title of Roman Emperor as well, that treaty has already been signed.
The Romans can't really get their old borders back without taking on Spain, the Truines, and Arles.
What part of their legacy is it going to be at the moment? Ending the Schism and having Europe choose Roman Orthodoxy? That seems mad.
There’s been a lot of progress. The biggest return haul by far was when Venice was captured, including said horses which were put back in their original position, but there have been more gains elsewhere. This is going to come up in the update.I meant physical legacy such as the artifacts that were looted post 1204.
Madlad Emperor…The Romans have a long history of madlad Emperors though right.
Basil II conquered Bulgaria, John II Tzimiskes could have conquered much of the Levant had he not died suddenly of illness. Konstantinos XI managed to both reclaim the Morea and rebuild the Hexamillion Walls in the 15th century. Justinian and Belisarius practically steamrolled the West until the Persians invaded. Heraclius single-handedly fought the Persians and restored the Empire after its near destruction at the hands of the Sassanids. Mare Nostrum must be restored and Italy needs to be "liberated" from the fake Romans and brought back into the Roman fold. Renovatii Imperii or bust!
Hey @Basileus444 how come no other Emperors were named Justinian III or took up Ioustinianos as their regnal name upon their coronation? Is the name seen as inauspicious or something?
Yeah, and how come none have been named Basil? The other two Basil's that became emperor were some of their best.
Just coincidence, although I now have the sneaking suspicion that Basil is an under-represented name in the TL.Imagine having to live up to those legacies? I wouldn't want to put that on my kid.
More seriously it is likely coincidence. There were a hilarious number of Constantines after all.
Michael brings up bad associations with Michael Palaiologos (the OTL and TTL figure) and the Nobles’ Revolt. While the name isn’t automatically poison, the Imperial heir and spare aren’t going to be named that, although perhaps a third or fourth son.They’ve only had 11 Constantines in AaoM. Although a Michael X would be appreciated.
The tone of irritation at the number of ‘Alexios’ in 1203-04 in the update was entirely from my personal feeling....How about another Demetrios? *smirks malevolently* "Do it."
But really, isn't half the fun of founding an empire giving half your descendants the same name as you?
Don’t forget the Ptolemaic dynasty either. Giant Library of Alexandria, and no baby name dictionary.Laughs in French.
There are basically over 20 different King Louis if you count the current pretenders and names like Clovis which was what the name Louis is derived from. There’s also 10 different King Charles as well. Every Napoleonic heir took the regnal name of Napoleon (insert Roman numeral here). Napoleon VIII or Jean-Christophe is the current legitimate heir to the French Imperial Throne and House Bonaparte.
Constantine the Great’s sons names were all variations of his own name:
Constantine, Contans, and Constantine.
Let’s see what would be the top ten cities worldwide (I’m thinking out loud here.) There’s Vijayanagara, Luoyang (Zeng Chinese capital), and Constantinople as the big three, in that order. Then there’s Paris (270,000) and Osaka, the Japanese capital. Those would be the top five.Has King's Harbour grown enough to place it in the Top 10 cities worldwide in terms of population or wealth? (Maybe the larger metropolitan area together with Dover has). Either way, if the Triunes manage to stay together for a couple more hundred years added to the accelerated technology ITTL, I foresee the Chunnel being built in the 19th century.
It’s a mix, with regional variations and levels of dominance. This is something I admittedly haven’t given much thought about. I should do a ‘colonial Terranova’ update at some point.Are the triune mainland colonies mostly English speaking? I'd personally expect that while the island colonies be mostly french speaking.
They don’t. There will be many more French immigrants to Terranova ITTL.Makes me wonder if the Triunes don't have the historic French animosity towards emigration to the Americas. 10,000 immigrants from France compared to 380,000 from Britain during the seventeenth century is pitifully small.
Thank you. Glad you’ve enjoyed it.
Seems to me quite low. And probably a good thing for Poland in the long term.Hm, essentially TTL's partition of Poland. I see that Poles had little chance to defend against all its neighbors, but those do seem as large concessions. What is the (estimated) % of ceded territories in relation to prewar territory and population?
Btw, I've recently been to Krakow. Magnificent city, gained much more respect and love for polish kingdom.
Sounds like the dilemma Elizabeth will face in the coming update. To cede Austria to the Hungarians so they can focus on not losing the entire Western and Northern HRE. Austria is also a very recent gain for the Wittelsbach so it’s a logical choice.And so Alexandra returns to Poland with the Treaty of Kiev. Poland has certainly been humbled, but save for Galicia all of the cessions have been Polish for less than twenty years.
this fact could mean that Poland could evolve into ITTL counterpart of kingdom of Prussia - aggresive, hyper-militaristic state which expands on it's neighbours cost. If German statelets seem that weak, a sane ruler of Poland, preparing to revenge on Lithuanians and Rhomans could try to obtain former Polish lands in the eastern HRE - Further Pomerania, Lusatia or even Berlin area - they all were under Polish control at some point and if there is that much instability in Germany, can be easiliy regained. Also a question to @Basileus444 - which Piast line is currently in power in Poland? Silesian (eldest in dynastic right, but IOTL they lost rights to Polish crown despite lasting to 1675), Cuyavian (one of the youngest in dynastic right, but united Poland IOTL, Władysław the Elbow-High and Casimir III the Great came from this branch), Mazovian (descended from the brother of founder of Cuyavian, ruled Duchy of Mazovia up to 1525)?On that note Germany might become the new Balkans of Europe going by its current trajectory though. A Dutch-Dano-Franco-Germanic mess that gives nationalists conniptions whenever they look at a map.
I don't know which map you're talking about but the most recent one puts Pomerania solely within the duchy of the same name, the one now fighting the Empire of All North, and Silesia within Bohemia.I won't underestimate TTL's Poland. It is smaller than IOTL, but has rich Silesia and entirety of Pomerania (it seems so from the map posted somewhere in the thread) and judging from the fact that Piasts are still in power, nobles don't have much say in the matters of country.
I won't underestimate TTL's Poland. It is smaller than IOTL, but has rich Silesia and entirety of Pomerania
Pomerania is alive, united and kicking while Silesia is fully under the control of the ascendant kingdom of Bohemia. In essence, this makes Poland a fully Catholic and Polish state (save for any East Prussian remnants), weaker yet stronger.Scandinavians are hampered by pinprick raids from Pomerania commanded by the heir to the Duchy, Bogislaw
Wow, not even massive butterflies can separate the Poles from their one true opponent ITTL apparentlyIn return, so long as the guarantee is in effect and Poland is not facing a western invasion, Poland must pledge two thousand cavalry to the Romans upon six months’ notice of said call, if said call is made before 1640. If the call is made after that mark, Poland must provide 4000 cavalry. That the increase goes into effect before the Roman-Ottoman truce ends is not a coincidence.
Ok, so consider my post not important.I don't know which map you're talking about but the most recent one puts Pomerania solely within the duchy of the same name, the one now fighting the Empire of All North, and Silesia within Bohemia.
Yeah, only instead of relieving the Siege of Vienna they will be about 2,300 miles southeast participating in the Siege of Baghdad. Might be an even more epic song after this is done.Pomerania is alive, united and kicking while Silesia is fully under the control of the ascendant kingdom of Bohemia. In essence, this makes Poland a fully Catholic and Polish state (save for any East Prussian remnants), weaker yet stronger.
Wow, not even massive butterflies can separate the Poles from their one true opponent ITTL apparently
Sabaton have their basis for their hit coming up soon
"Then the winged hussars arrived
Coming down they turned the tide
Cannonballs are coming down from the sky
Janissaries are you ready to die?"
The Poles lost a hell of a lot of land. With the reversal of conquests and loss of Galicia (by which I assume @Basileus444 meant the Bukovina region) Poland has lost some 1/3 of its territories. If it wasn't for the fact they were recent conquests this would've toppled the dynasty.snip
Hah! I can see that as a reverse situation from Vienna, unless of course this siege of Baghdad has the Romans take the city, get besieged by the Ottomans then the Polish hussars coming in. And I concur, it seems in one way or another, the Poles and the Turks always seem to butt heads even in this timeline, probably a way to correct what should have been in OTL.Yeah, only instead of relieving the Siege of Vienna they will be about 2,300 miles southeast participating in the Siege of Baghdad. Might be an even more epic song after this is done.
After how the Macedonian campaign ended, and with how the Ottoman war re-up will end, I imagine he will be the very scary stick. Even the Tribune's I imagine will take pause.Looks like Demetrios III is a big fan of soft power diplomacy, at this rate he'll be guaranteeing the borders of half of Europe.
It'll be interesting to see how Odysseus will balance this approach to his (presumably) brutal war of conquest against the Ottomans.
I think it's a great reversal. I don't think we've had an Emperor so involved in Latin and European politics since Andreas Niketas, which is great. An involved and assertive Rhoman Empire is a complete turnaround. Rather than ignoring the Latins as best they can, being present to establish a persistent status quo is a better diplomatic approach. It isn't expansionistic which would be threatening, but it means they can ensure the current setup and future setup doesn't harm them, at least in theory.Looks like Demetrios III is a big fan of soft power diplomacy, at this rate he'll be guaranteeing the borders of half of Europe.
It'll be interesting to see how Odysseus will balance this approach to his (presumably) brutal war of conquest against the Ottomans.
Talk quietly and carry a D3 musket?After how the Macedonian campaign ended, and with how the Ottoman war re-up will end, I imagine he will be the very scary stick. Even the Tribune's I imagine will take pause.
What I'll be curious about is how the Spanish will act with Ody occupied with the avenging of his father.
The Poles lost a hell of a lot of land. With the reversal of conquests and loss of Galicia (by which I assume @Basileus444 meant the Bukovina region) Poland has lost some 1/3 of its territories. If it wasn't for the fact they were recent conquests this would've toppled the dynasty.
As it is the Poles need a victorious war to make up for their lost prestige, something to bolster their flagging national pride. A quick conquest of Silesia to unify the Pole-ish peoples could do the trick. They could even go the Serbian route and embrace the idea of a great West Slavic Empire as a rallying cry for the nation. The Zapadoslavian Union of Polish-Czech-Slovakian-Silesian-Kashubian-Moravian-Sorbian fraternity.
I think it includes the entire region of Polish Galicia. But is it wise for Poland to betray the last of her allies (Bohemia and Austria)? Slovakia means taking up arms against Hungary which will bring in the entire Belgrade Pact into the fray and Poland risks going the way it did in OTL (full partitions).Empire also pledges to provide a two-thousand-strong garrison for both Vienna and Halych, which had served as the capital of Vlach Galicia