Here's what I think the list of Presidents of the United States would look like in a scenario where Dukakis won the 1988 presidential election. View attachment 914537 Summary of elections (1988 - 2012) 1988 - Governor Michael Dukakis narrowly defeats Vice president George H.W. Bush.
1992 - President Michael Dukakis is defeated by Senator Bob Dole. Senator Al Gore replaces Vice president Lloyd Bentsen as Dukakis' running mate.
1996 - President Bob Dole is reelected, defeating Governor Mario Cuomo.
2000 - Senator Bill Clinton defeats Vice president Jack Kemp.
2004 - President Bill Clinton is reelected, defeating Senator John McCain.
2008 - Governor Mitt Romney defeats Vice president John Kerry.
2012 - President Mitt Romney is reelected, defeating Senator Hillary Clinton.
I have an idea for a little project. Make nation boxes of all 50 states from various TLs. Just make a variety. A little geographically fluid but generally each state. Might be interesting?
Well that sucks! Sorry you got banned from Wikipedia.
I feel for you dude. While I have never got banned from Wikipedia, I have been warned several times over the years for various reasons and in October 2019, I had my sandboxes deleted.
That's a pretty stupid rule IMHO. People used to make alternate history in sandboxes on Wikipedia years ago. I'm not sure why the people on the site have such a problem with that now. Sandboxes are (or at least were) for peoples projects.
That seems like it now. Wikipedia seems to be getting stricter and stricter with stuff by the day. It also seems to be getting harder and harder to edit on Wikipedia without pissing off some user and possibly getting your edits reverted.
A few weeks ago, I had four of my edits I did for a few TV stations reverted because I changed the links to be more proper. The user who reverted my edits stated something in his edit message about "WP:NOTBROKEN". Dude, I changed those links to be more proper! People didn't have a problem with that before! Seriously, I prefer proper links to stuff in most cases. For example, it's suppose to be Plattsburgh, New York, not just stinking Plattsburgh! I wanted to leave a message on the user's talk page, but I didn't want to start trouble or have the user pull some BS excuse.
That's a pretty stupid rule IMHO. People used to make alternate history in sandboxes on Wikipedia years ago. I'm not sure why the people on the site have such a problem with that now. Sandboxes are (or at least were) for peoples projects.
I agree. It’s not like what someone does in their sandbox impacts the site as a whole nor encourages the spread of disinformation.
Besides, non-AH wikipedia is just as, if not more susceptible to lies. Look at what happened to Croatian wikipedia for example (or for that matter, IDK if it’s still the case, but look at what the article on Bosniaks says about their ethnic origin in Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, and English).
Here's an infobox that I made of the 2006 Canadian federal election. The POD for this is that the Liberals run a better campaign and that NDP Finance critic Judy Wasylycia-Leis doesn't announce that Ralph Goodale was under an RCMP investigation.
I agree. It’s not like what someone does in their sandbox impacts the site as a whole nor encourages the spread of disinformation.
Besides, non-AH wikipedia is just as, if not more susceptible to lies. Look at what happened to Croatian wikipedia for example (or for that matter, IDK if it’s still the case, but look at what the article on Bosniaks says about their ethnic origin in Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, and English).
Hubert Horatio Humphrey Jr. (May 27, 1911 – March 13, 1978) was an American pharmacist, politician, businessman and sports owner who owned several sports teams in the Twin Cities, seeing success in all of them. Humphrey is the only man in four Halls of Fame and is generally considered the greatest owner in American Sports history.
Born in Wallace, South Dakota, Humphrey attended the University of Minnesota. In 1943, he became a professor of political science at Macalester College and ran a failed campaign for mayor of Minneapolis. He helped found the Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party (DFL) in 1944; the next year he was elected mayor of Minneapolis, serving until 1948 and successfully advocated for the inclusion of a proposal to end racial segregation in the 1948 Democratic National Convention's party platform.
Leaving public office, Humphrey earned a fortune on Wall Street, and invested this into his home state. Although a patron of arts and education, as well as his continued support for progressive causes. Humphrey is most remembered for his ownership of several professional sports teams.
His first purchase was of the Minneapolis Lakers, sparing them a potential move to the West Coast. To appeal to Saint Paul he renamed them after Minnesota as a whole, a tactic he would use for all of his teams. The Lakers would be his most successful investment, winning five titles over his ownership.
When Baseball expanded, Humphrey fronted the successful bid for the Twin Cities area, helping finance the stadium. The first decade was a difficult one for the Twins, but they would become the team of the 70s in the AL, finally winning the World Series in 1977, featuring a then record number of minority players.
Humphrey also brought NFL success to Minnesota, in the form of another expansion team, the Minnesota Vikings. Although criticized for meddling with draft picks, many of these panned out well, with the Vikings becoming the first team to win three super bowls, led by star running back OJ Simpson.
Hockey was Humphrey’s last addition to his sporting portfolio, and saw immediate success. The North Stars stunned the world by taking the Stanley Cup home in their first ever season of play, and continued to see success into the 1970s.
In 1977-78, Humphrey’s teams all won their respective championships. This was the first time a city had held all four trophies at one time, a record that would not be equaled until Cleveland in 2000-01 and surpassed by Tampa Bay in 2017-18 with the addition of a NASL trophy. Humphrey remains the only owner to have held so many trophies simultaneously. Humphrey died from bladder cancer shortly after achieving this feat, willing his teams to the State of Minnesota. He remains fondly remembered as “Mr. Minnesota Sports” and the man who made the state the State of Champions.
Hubert Horatio Humphrey Jr. (May 27, 1911 – January 1, 1978) was an American pharmacist, politician and physicist, best known for his work regarding quantum and temporal mechanics, which won him a Nobel Prize in Physics.
Born in Wallace, South Dakota, Humphrey attended the University of Minnesota. He helped found the Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party (DFL) in 1944; the next year he was elected mayor of Minneapolis, serving until 1948 and co-founding the liberal anti-communist group Americans for Democratic Action in 1947. In 1948, he successfully advocated for the inclusion of a proposal to end racial segregation in the 1948 Democratic National Convention's party platform. However he shocked observers by dropping out of the Senate race and pursuing a degree in Physics.
Humphrey obtained his doctorate at the University of Chicago and worked at several labs over the course of his career, including Berkeley. Humphrey worked primarily on the emerging questions of quantum mechanics, where he is regarded as a major pioneer. He was among the first to theorize a boson that could cause particles to gain mass, the so-called Humphrey Boson. However it was his work on the Quark Model that earned him a Nobel Prize in 1968.
Humphrey was also a major theorist on the nature of spacetime. His work predicting Time Crystals, also known as Humphrey Crystals, far preceded any other physicist’s examination of the topic. His work regarding Humphrey Curves, curves in spacetime, are largely the basis for current research into time loops.
Humphrey remained an advocate for Civil Rights throughout his career and served as a scientific advisor to Presidents George Romney, J.J. Pickle, and John Glenn. He died as a result of bladder cancer in 1978.
The Ingsoc Party
The Ingsoc Party was a British political party responsible for promoting one of the most harsh, brutal and authoritarian systems of governance in existence. The Ingsoc Party has its origins during the tumultuous period between the World Wars. During the 1920’s and 1930’s, fascism was on the rise across Europe. Benzino Napaloni’s Fascists and Adenoid Hynkel’s Nazis came to power in Italy and Germany. Austria fell under the control of Moe Hagelkorn’s Moronikan League and Rufus T. Firefly seized control of Freedonia. In Britain, the fascists were not in power, but still asserted themselves with vigor. Roderick Spode and Oswald Parham’s Saviours of Britain advocated alliance with Germany and Italy against the Soviet Union, to protect the integrity of the white race. It would be a member of this movement, Rudolf ‘Rud’ Whitlow, who would pioneer the doctrine of Ingsoc. After visiting the fascist-aligned Meccania and meeting with key government officials, Whitlow saw the potential for autocracy based on abandoning a pretense of it being anything but. Whitlow thus broke from the Saviours and formed the English Socialist Party in 1939, which advocated ‘national renewal’ via open embrace of dictatorship as a means to purge the ‘weak and decadent’ from society. Those defined as such by Whitlow included socialist intellectuals, the handicapped, Jews and the ‘idle classes’ of nobility who had riches, but did little with them. Whitlow’s party turned on Germany as World War II began, which spared it the scrutiny the Saviours would experience.
The English Socialist Party contested the 1945 general election, but ultimately lost to Labour under Zilliboy Shinbags. However, Whitlow would subsequently gain a major coup for his party in the form of a truly gifted spokesperson: Sir Harold Wharton. Wharton had served in World War II with distinction and was a gifted orator compared to the bookish Whitlow. Moreover, Wharton was an ardent supporter of Whitlow’s ideology. Wharton would thus become the public face of the party. Wharton, unfortunately, also had a number of idiosyncratic ideas. He was the one who suggested rewriting the English language to be more ‘efficient’, forcing the party’s name change to the Ingsoc Party. Wharton also advocated the overthrow of the British monarchy, even conspiring with a group of sentient pigs who had formed a system not dissimilar to Ingsoc on their farm to dethrone Queen Anne II during her coronation. Wharton’s plot failed, but neither he nor the Ingsoc Party ever were caught carrying out this scheme. Subsequent British governments viewed Ingsoc as a minor nuisance–occasionally worth monitoring but far lesser threats than terrorist groups like SPECTRE, THRUSH or KAOS. However, in the 1960’s, an aged Wharton would focus on targeting ‘abnormal’ humans. Specifically, the rise of the so-called ‘Tomorrow People’ gave Ingsoc new life as an anti-mutant–and ultimately more broadly human supremacist organization, with aliens, Moureau sapiens and Toons joining the list of acceptable targets.
Ingsoc’s activities in the 1960’s often involved acts of violence and intimidation. Members of the Ingsoc Party would attempt to assassinate noted British space programme pioneer Bernard Quartermass for advocating steps to prepare for diplomatic contact with certain aliens rather than embracing a uniform position of hostility even in the wake of the Triffid invasion. Ingsoc embraced Gordon Zellaby as a martyr embodying the ideals of their ideology for his sacrifice to stop the Children of Midwhich, despite Zellaby’s own document antipathy towards the group. Despite ostensible socialism, the Ingsoc Party viciously denounced attempts to carry out decolonization, with several Ingsoc-connected individuals actively attempting to sabotage negotiations that paved the way for the independence of the former British colonies of Talgalla, Zamunda and Namibia. The rise of the 1960’s counterculture gave Ingsoc yet another useful rival. Wharton accused the movement of being communist, anti-British and tied to occult movements. Many Ingsoc publications sought to connect figures popular with the counterculture (most notably Mick Turner) to the likes of Oliver Haddo and Kosmo Gallion. Despite this public hostility to the occult, Wharton was quite close to Lord Summerisle, the leader of a pagan revivalist cult who some have suggested convinced Wharton that human suffering in some way could draw in power. Clashes between Ingsoc supporters and left-wingers such as anarchist Dennis Menace, Jr. were common in the late 1960’s.
By the 1970’s, Wharton was in ill health and the Ingsoc Party seemed to be failing. Not only did they not secure power, but the victory of Iorweth Jones’ Labour Party over Michael Rimmer’s Conservatives in 1974 seemed primed to pull Britain hard to the left. However, the Ingsoc Party got a lucky break in the form of US President Ferris Fremont. Fremont, a member of Hydra’s Secret Empire, viewed the Ingsoc Party as natural partners for Hydra and, ostensibly in the name of anticommunism, funneled CIA monetary support to the party. This program, overseen by Fremont advisor Henry Killinger, helped renew the party’s fortunes. They were aided by the surge in alien activity negatively impacting Britain-the near-destruction of the planet by the Vogons, a narrowly averted meteorite-harnessing invasion attempt by a race of energy beings and incursions by the Daleks, Sontarans and Cybermen in particular. By the time of Wharton’s 1979 death, the Ingsoc Party had managed to elect a few members to Parliament, despite the party’s far-right bent meaning even Joan Carpenter’s Conservative Party shunned them. However, when the 1979 election ended in a hung parliament and the Scottish Liberation Army provoked a political crisis by seizing Fort William, Conservative MP Sir Timothy Hobson ousted Carpenter in a leadership challenge and formed a coalition with the Ingsoc Party to form a government.
Hobson’s autocratic leadership did not last long, but gave the Ingsoc Party their first taste of real power. Even though Carpenter, on reclaiming her position at the helm of the Tories, broke the coalition, held a snap election and whittled down the Ingsoc presence in Parliament, the party was emboldened. With the party’s decline electorally, leadership fell into the hands of the party’s most consistent electoral success: Jim Jaspers. Jaspers, however, had a secret: he was a mutant. Despite heading a party so rabidly anti-metahuman that Bolivar Trask denounced it, Jaspers possessed reality warping powers which had helped him win. Still, his full power was not fully present-until an opening arrived. In 1984, the superhero Miracleman reemerged after decades in seclusion seeking to take over the world and usher in a utopia. Miracleman succeeded in ousting Carpenter, but before consolidating his rule or expanding it globally the American superhero Doctor Manhattan intervened. The clash between the two extremely powerful superheroes in Britain happened concurrently with the escalation of hostilities between the U.S. and USSR in the Strait of Hormuz, beginning World War III with the Soviet awakening of Cthulhu. This gave Jaspers the opportunity to strike. As reality was already creaking around him, Jaspers took in some of the others’ power and, with the power he absorbed from Miracleman, Doctor Manhattan and Cthulhu, was able to rewrite the world.
In the world Jaspers forced into being in 1984, he was the unquestioned ruler of Britain-its totalitarian Big Brother. Society was organized into a caste system based around proximity to Jaspers-the ‘Inner Party’ holding more power than the ‘Outer Party’ and both holding control over the vast number of Proles. His government maintained control with an iron fist. Mass surveillance was the rule, enforced in part by now-compliant artificial intelligences such as Colossus and all sentient nonhuman life present on the planet was in the process of being wiped out by Sentinels. The same fate was in store for detested racial and religious minorities, with Jaspers using the leftist political philosopher Emmanuel Goldstein to help maintain a high level of anti-Semitism. Dissidents were tortured by Jaspers’ ‘Ministry of Love’ under the supervision of Gerald O’Brien. The English language was altered to comply with Wharton’s simplification and idioms such as ‘wrongthink’ and ‘doubleplusgood’ prevailed over more traditional idioms. Jasper’s reach extended across the Anglosphere and into South America and Africa, but even beyond that his influence was felt-the USSR now ruled from Siberia to Spain under an unrelenting Stalinist regime that in the new history took the continent during World War II and Asia fell under the tyrannical rule of Cthulhu cultists as Jaspers’ offering to make Cthulhu halt his awakening, condemning billions to a nightmarish existence under the rule of ‘obliteration of the self.’ A three-way global war was ongoing, but condemned to continue for eternity given the desire of all three factions to maintain a balance of power.
And yet, Jaspers’ regime failed to last. Largely this can be traced back to some carryover from the original timeline retaining memories instead of simply accepting the new world. The SCP Foundation had a number of contingencies to address these sorts of reality alterations and it was not long until other stragglers of the old world emerged. Among them were Captain Britain, Doctor Fate, Astro Boy and Buckaroo Banzai. All of these individuals would clash with the Ingsoc world order, with Captain Britain ultimately confronting and defeating Jaspers. In the process, he freed Doctor Manhattan from captivity and the superbeing restored the world as it had been. The overthrow of Jaspers had major consequences. Jaspers was jailed-the alteration of reality only having restored normalcy, not removed his government altogether from history, with many still aware of Jaspers’ tyrannical oppression. The restored Carpenter government had Peter St. John forcibly intern most metahumans within the country in the name of national security (a policy that lasted until the ascension of Jim Hacker to the position of Prime Minister) and members of the Ingsoc Party in Parliament were largely forced out.
This was not the end of Ingsoc’s influence, however. Ingsoc Party member Adam Susan would go on to form the more traditionally neofascist Norsefire Party, which would dominate the far-right scene for much of the 1990’s. Some individuals possessing the ability to recall past timelines (often referred to as ‘reading Steiner’) claim Norsefire managed to for a time replicate Jaspers’ achievement by rewriting history to rule Britain as a fascist state, though this was undone by unclear means, restoring our own world with Francis Urquhart’s premiership. Beyond Norsefire, however, the Ingsoc Party has cast a very large shadow. The Shepherd Party formed by supporters of the cartoon bear Waldo in 2017 incorporated a number of Ingsoc talking points and based their surveillance program while in power off of Jaspers’ mass surveillance. The remnants of the Ingsoc Party were among the parties who joined the Four Star Party under Vivienne Rook, which Rook embraced despite widespread condemnation. Even beyond Britain, many others have taken inspiration from Ingsoc-David Jefferson Adams’ Chief of Staff Jake Rivers cited Harold Wharton as a major influence on his own beliefs and social media websites like Chirper, Cooksta and The Circle have in internal memos compared their talent at data harvesting favorably to the Jaspers regime’s universal monitoring. Jaspers’ regime also gave the name to the reality series Big Brother, a controversy that dogged the show until it was canceled following the deaths of most of its then-current cast alongside its host and several past contestants during the 2003 London zombie outbreak.
References
1984, The Great Dictator, You Nazty Spy!, Duck Soup, Jeeves and Wooster, The Autocracy of Mr. Parham, The Holy Terror, Meccania: The Super State, Michael Cummings Political Cartoons, Billy Bunter, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier, Animal Farm, The Man from UNCLE, James Bond, Get Smart!, The Tomorrow People, The Island of Dr. Moureau, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, The Quartermass Experiment, Day of the Triffids, The Midwich Cuckoos, The Real Ambassadors, Coming to America, Performance, The Magician, The Wicker Man, Dennis the Menace. In the Wet, The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer, VALIS, Marvel Comics (Secret Empire, Captain Britain), The Venture Bros, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, They Came From Beyond Space, Doctor Who, The Devil’s Alternative, Scotch on the Rocks,The Guardians (TV Series), Miracleman, Watchmen, Countdown to Looking Glass, A Colder War, Colossus: The Forbin Project, Command and Conquer: Red Alert, SCP Foundation, DC Comics (Doctor Fate), Astro Boy, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension, Albion, Yes Minister, V For Vendetta, House of Cards UK, Steins;Gate, The Curfew, Black Mirror, Years and Years, Shattered Union, Trigger Warning, Cities: Skylines, Dave the Diver, The Circle, Dead Set, Shaun of the Dead, The New Statesmen
Random number generator chose North Carolina for the first one. Here is a world where the Knights of Malta, instead of getting a few small Caribbean islands, tried their luck on the North American mainland! This is about half the size of OTL North Carolina, mostly the coast. Sorry to any OTL Tar Heels.
Nice, but I think some other scandal would've plagued North even without Iran-Contra, possibly involving the Iraq War. Maybe he secretly sells arms to Kurdish rebels?
A while back, I learned that Albert Gallatin was originally nominated to serve as William H. Crawford's running mate. However, Gallatin withdrew the nomination and Nathaniel Macon was chosen instead.
This infobox is basically is Albert Gallatin did not withdraw from the nomination and remained as William Crawford's running mate.