AHC: Have Spain be the first socialist country on Earth.

I was scrolling by a few threads here since I'm intrigued at the idea of a nation like Germany, the United Kingdom, or France being the first nation to develop socialism as opposed to Russia. Then I thought about Western European nations to develop socialism first, and the two I thought were intriguing were Italy and Spain. So I'm positing this challenge, could Spain be the first to develop socialism and if so, how could they do it?
 
Maybe try pre1900. Spain was a mess in the post-Napoleonic era for a long time, and it's at least possible a radical revolutionary party could emerge from the chaos, but without an industrialised workforce who realise that they are all poor while the people they work for are very rich it's harder to get mass traction in cities or outside.
France is also a possibility pre1900 with the communes (and the revolution) providing a pointer to what might have been.
Though possible, I can't see either being likely, especially before large scale industrialisation.
 
Honestly if you’re looking for an industrialized capitalist economy to be the first to give birth to socialism, Spain is a poor option. After the end of the Civil War, Spanish communists will have more in common with the Bolshevik experience than anything that the French or Germans would face. Food crises, massive economic dislocation, a large rural population with no real link to party organs, an underdeveloped industrial economy with a generational cohort of male workers likely impacted by the war (dead or maimed), a long history of state centralism and relatively limited experience with parliamentary democracy, and insecure territorial control especially on the peripheries.
 
Honestly if you’re looking for an industrialized capitalist economy to be the first to give birth to socialism, Spain is a poor option. After the end of the Civil War, Spanish communists will have more in common with the Bolshevik experience than anything that the French or Germans would face. Food crises, massive economic dislocation, a large rural population with no real link to party organs, an underdeveloped industrial economy with a generational cohort of male workers likely impacted by the war (dead or maimed), a long history of state centralism and relatively limited experience with parliamentary democracy, and insecure territorial control especially on the peripheries.
However (A) there is Catalonia, i.e. the most industrialised part of Spain, and (B) anarchism.

There's no reason why Spain couldn't become the first socialist country. Under Marxist theory, Russia shouldn't have been so IOTL, and yet, it was.
 
There's no reason why Spain couldn't become the first socialist country. Under Marxist theory, Russia shouldn't have been so IOTL, and yet, it was.
Of course, I'm simply assuming that the OP was intrigued by an industrialized Western European nation developing socialism first based on their first sentence. Upon rereading though, it seems they just meant Western European straight up rather than a necessarily strong industrial economy.
 
The Spanish First Republic of 1873 was considered "socialist" in a non-marxist way.
If you can found a POD that gives more stability to the republican government so it didn't fall on december 1874, that can open a path bringing to a real marxist Spain.
 
could Spain be the first to develop socialism and if so, how could they do it?
The best way to achieve this is:
-Bring better traductions of Hegel's and Marx's works (OTL that didn't happens until recently)
-Reduce the importance of the krausism on the intelligentsia (OTL krausism was the main theory for the reformer and radical politicians, even on the socialist party, and it was not materialistic neither revolutionary).
 
Prince Leopold arrives to Spain on time and is crowned king in 1870? Spanish intervention in WW1 (assuming it happens like OTL) could possibly lead to the conditions necessary for socialist revolution, although IMO it would be more likely to go down the path of Germany.
 
There's no reason why Spain couldn't become the first socialist country. Under Marxist theory, Russia shouldn't have been so IOTL, and yet, it was.
-Bring better traductions of Hegel's and Marx's works (OTL that didn't happens until recently)
Spain could have become Socialist, but not Marxist. Even in the Spanish Civil War, the main "Radical Faction" were the Anarcho-Syndicalists, not the Marxist Communists.
 
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Spain could have become Socialist, but not Marxist. Even in the Spanish Civil War, the main "Radical Faction" were the Anarcho-Syndicalists, not the Marxist Communists.
Marxists of various stripes made up a significant part of the Republican coalition
 
Are we talking about Spain being the first socialist country or the first Marxist country? As much as Americans like to believe otherwise, these terms are not necessarily synonymous. In theory it might be possible to arrive at some form of socialism, but if it is required that it also be Marxist then it is impossible. That would require a government run by psychopaths more keen on massacring millions of people in the name of ideological purity than anything else. Which would very quickly degenerate into a French-style Terror or something more akin to the Chinese Civil War...
 
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