AHC Alternate or Surviving Languages

Language: Acrese Quechua; known as or Aclle Qichwa or Acllesimi
Region: Brazilian Amazon, North Bolivia
Family: Quecha > Urin Quechua (Qichwa) > Cuzco Quechua > Acrese Quechua
Writing Script: Kipuic script is a copy of Latin script, but its not based on it. Kipu, the ancient numerical system based on combination of knots, was extended for all quechua vowels and consonants, and few later, transcripted in 1650.
Loan Words: Acrese Quechua is the most distant language of the quechuan family, due to extensive influences from portuguese and in less importance, spanish.
History: Incan refugees, after the fall of the Incan Empire in 1570, went outside the sphere of the ever growing spanish empire, and isolated from most of the local conflicts. First encounter with Portuguese Bandeirantes was in 1590, setting contacts in what in the future is known as Acre city. Portuguese priests set up a mission based like the ones being set up in Paraguay, but way more successful. One of these priests, father Alves, is credited with the creation of the Kipuic script, allowing its future preservation and the portuguese influences in this unique quechua language.
 
Language: Delmarvan Swedish
Region: Viceroyalty of Delmarva (official language status shared with English)
Status: Recovering (reached the level of extremely endangered for some years in the late 1990s, but its getting better)
Family: Indo-european > Germanic > North Germanic > East Scandinavian > Swedish > Delmarvan Swedish
Writing: Latin alphabet (some still use the Swedish Alphabet, which is on itself a variation of the Latin one)
Loan Words: 25% english (mostly british variety), 18% Algonquian (mostly Lenape) and 5% Dutch
History: Basically, the Colony of New Sweden lasts longer (and has a larger population) and its Swedish ends up being influenced by the neighboring languages, later on it still ends up being annexed by the Thirteen Colonies, being a part of an alternate monarchical (and smaller) US
 
So i was thinking in an scenario regarding Columbus searching sponsorship for his travels. Instead the spanish, he got the sponsorship from Ragusa, so most of his tripulation speaks Dalmatian. He makes the same travels as OTL, but using Dalmatian and claim colonies in the name of Ragusa.

The question is, how much Dalmatian would be spoken in America, and how diverse would be?
 
Language: Frabaer Voetinish
Region: Kingdoms of the Inland Seas and among the elite of the Mississippian kingdoms.
Family: Indo-European > Germanic >Western Northern Germanic> Greenlandic > Frabaer Voetinish
Writing: both the Latin alphabet and Runic.
Loan Words: 15% Western Algonquian, mostly names for plants and animals and 5% Siouan.
History: Fleeing from a worsing climate the Greenlandic Norse follow the Big River to the inland seas
 
Language: Frabaer Voetinish
Region: Kingdoms of the Inland Seas and among the elite of the Mississippian kingdoms.
Family: Indo-European > Germanic >Western Northern Germanic> Greenlandic > Frabaer Voetinish
Writing: both the Latin alphabet and Runic.
Loan Words: 15% Western Algonquian, mostly names for plants and animals and 5% Siouan.
History: Fleeing from a worsing climate the Greenlandic Norse follow the Big River to the inland seas
Interesting, I wonder how the speakers of said population would fair in the actual English US
 
So i was thinking in an scenario regarding Columbus searching sponsorship for his travels. Instead the spanish, he got the sponsorship from Ragusa, so most of his tripulation speaks Dalmatian. He makes the same travels as OTL, but using Dalmatian and claim colonies in the name of Ragusa.

The question is, how much Dalmatian would be spoken in America, and how diverse would be?
Idk man, however, I don't think it would be as much as Spanish now since Ragusa was significantly smaller than Spain was at the time. Maybe what would happen is that the Caribbean islands speak Dalmatian while Mexico etc is Colonized by Spain and Brazil by Portugal as in our own timeline but idk.
 
Language: Hunno-Romance
Region: Gaul Magna Germania Pannonia
Official Language: Co-official in the Hunnic Empire
Family: Indo-European -> Italic -> Latino-Falliscan -> Latin -> Hunno-Romance
Writing System: Latin and Runic
Loan Words: 56% Hunnic 24% Germanic 13% Gothic
History: Attila the Hun wins the Battle of Catalaunian Plains and conquers Gaul Hunnic Language Gets Promoted and Romance Dialects get to magna germania over a period of time the dialects of germanic romance gothic and hunnic mixes into a new language called hunno-romance
 
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Language: Soqotri
Region: Socotra Island
Official Language: Co-official in the Socotra Overseas Territory
Family: Afro-Asiatic -> Semitic -> South Semitic -> Modern South Arabian -> Mehri-Soqotri -> Soqotri
Writing System: Syriac
Loan Words: 20% Chinese 10% Arabic 5% Syriac
History: The Canton Overseas Company annexed the island of Socotra, intending it as a base and trading hub for its naval and trading ships in Eastern Zanj (OTL Africa), Arabia, and Europe. Inadequate fresh water and a lack of a suitable port led to the island languishing in neglect and obscurity. This had the effect of allowing its unique culture - most notably as the only landmass on earth whose inhabitants were predominately Nestorian Christian - to survive in isolation. Following the Qing Dynasty (not the OTL Qing)'s nationalization of the Companies and the wave of decolonization, Socotra was deemed too strategically important and culturally distinct to annex into the Caliphate, and too small to grant independence. Hence, it was declared an Overseas Territory of the Qing Empire; successive Governor-Generals from the Metropole introduced measures such as a territorial charter and responsible government. The Nestorian Church, headquartered in Baghdad, appointed bishops to minister to the island's faithful, and worked with the Territorial Administration to introduce a written Soqotri language in the Syriac alphabet. The language now enjoys pre-eminent status among the island's 32,000 inhabitants, though limited economic opportunities contribute to emigration; notable diaspora communities exist in Qeshm, Negroponte, and Canton.
 
Language: Igpay Atinlay
Region: North America
Family: Germanic
Writing System: Latin
Speakers: 10M (secondary only)
Literature: none.

Spoken almost exclusively by children, this pidgin dialect of English has undergone phonemic rotation such that 'pig' becomes 'igpay', 'Latin' becomes 'Atinlay', and so forth. It is used chiefly as a means of obscuring communication from adults and juvenile non-speakers.
 
Idea inspired by a comment on this thread and a CKII run as count of Flanders (it's a Flanders wank, I'll probably make a timeline of it)
Language: Flemish
Region: The Low Countries, north eastern United States,
Family: Germanic -> West Germanic -> Weser-Rhine Germanic -> West Franconian
Writing Script: Latin
Loan words: 10% Old Norse, 15% French
Speakers: 25M

history: Rollo is given the county of Flanders instead of Normandy. the ALT Normans/Flemish, kinda follow the same expansion the county of Flanders did, they conquer everything east of the Somme and everything west of the Meuse/Sambre. Gaining the titles of Duke of Flanders in France and the Duke of Brabant in the Holy Roman Empire, the dukes are major powerbrokers in both the Kingdom and the Empire. As in OTL, it becomes one of the richest, most urbanized regions of Europe, with a major cultural influence across the continent. The martial inclined Normans fortify the region with numerous castles and the cities keep on growing, gaining the region the name: "the land of castles and cities". Several ambitious families travel abroad in the search of land and glory, one family is able to unite Ireland for a century, another travels to Southern Italy, and manages to form the Kingdom of Sicily. Several dukes are famous crusaders and a cadet branch of the Dukal house become Princes of Akko, a vassal of the Eastern Roman Empire. By the end of the Middle Ages, it had become known as the Principality of Flanders, with its Prince a Peer of France and a Prince-Elector of the Holy Roman Empire. While the Reformation attracts some following in the region, it remains Catholic, leading the way in the Counter-Reformation. During the Age of Discovery, the Principality has fishing colonies on Newfoundland, colonizes the region between St Lawrence and Hudson rivers and establishes numerous plantations in the East Indies
 
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Language: Pukina

Official Language: Titicaca [principal lingua franca of the country (OTL counterpart: Bolivia and southeast Peru)]

Region: Titicaca altiplano and the Pacific coast (mother tongue speakers)

Family: Macro-Arawakan - Altiplano/Western - Pukina

Writing System: Runic (current), Syllabary (historical)

Loanwords:
Arawakan languages (contact with lowland Arawakan tribes), Finnish-Avar/Northern Beringian (through missionaries and colonial administration), Itelmen/Southern Beringian (through immigration), Hunnic-Yeniseian, Indo-European languages

History:
Considered as the direct successors of the Wari civilization, the Pukina-speaking kingdom of Titicaca had began its regular contact with the Arawakan tribes in their eastern frontier; as the former weren't customized to the humid climate of the latter, the Titicacan officials had hired a network of intermediaries to communicate with the princip lowland Arawakan tribal tribes: Curiously, these intermediaries were descendants of Titicacan warriors who married lowland Arawakan women in the east of the country, hence their ability of not just being bilingual/multilingual, but also their willing to adapt to the climate of both altiplano and the plains (for the former, they have an constant supply of coca). The resulting cultural exchange between the Pukinas and the lowland Arawakan tribes had mutually enriched each other's languages: For the former, words from the lowland Arawakan languages entered the vocabulary, particularly crops and agricultural practices that were related to the tropical climate of the latter, most notably the introduction of compost pit agriculture (terra preta) in the altiplano, while for the latter, words from Pukina had entered their vocabulary, most notably words that were related to higher government. As the Inca dynasty of the Titicaca kingdom fell into shambles as the result of internal conflicts and the exposure to Old World diseases, both Jesuit missionaries and adventurers from the Finno-Avaric West India Company had ushered the colonial period across the country; both the Christianization of the surviving populace and the intermarriage between the Finno-Avaric male colonists and native Pukina women (women from both Avary and Finland, most of whom were orphans, debt prisoners and prostitutes would migrate later, mostly marrying with native Pukina men) had enriched both the Pukina language and lowland Arawak language by introducing runic alphabet to the general population; older writing, which were written in the glyphic syllabaries, were transcribed by the Jesuit missionaries; their counterparts in other Roman Catholic orders came later.
 
I would like to know more of this.
The Finn part is already explained in this post, while Avar is equivalent to OTL Hungary (and either Serbia or Croatia-Bosnia and Herzegovina) but speaking a Chuktokan (or Northern Beringian in this thread) language.

Here's the explanation itself:
The Finno-Avaric West India Company was a state-sponsored merchant society mostly composed of Avaric and exiled Roman Catholic Finnish merchants who were interested in opening new opportunities in the New World, which was achieved thanks to its special relationship with the Papacy in Rome; it was indeed an open secret in the courts of competing European nations, principally Spain and Portugal, that the Finno-Avaric West India Company held a certain influence in the Holy See, most notably hiring capable ships and passing through the Mediterranean, that they held some New World territories.

PS/OOC:
Is this still legit, @Pio2013 ?
 
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The Finno-Avaric West India Company was a state-sponsored merchant society mostly composed of Avaric and exiled Roman Catholic Finnish merchants who were interested in opening new opportunities in the New World
An interesting scenario, the most alternate of all i've seen on this thread. You can branch your own thread based on alternate merchant societies.
 
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