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  1. ordinarylittleme

    Francis III, Duke of Brittany and Mary I of England?

    The two were betrothed as children before this arrangement was broken off. What if it hadn't been broken off? What if the two married in 1533, right before Mary was declared illegitimate? And because Francis' father and brother had seven and ten children, respectively, and Mary's mother was...
  2. RedKing

    WI: Charles VIII of France marries Margaret of Austria?

    The POD here is that in the New Year of 1491, Anne of Brittany dies of a bad case of the flu, and is succeeded by her cousin Jean as the ruler of Brittany (IIRC the Rohan were the next in line). This results in Charles VIII honouring his betrothal to Margaret of Austria, and marrying her in...
  3. No Affair of the Placards?

    The Affair of the Placards was a scandal in which anti-Catholic posters were put in Paris, other major cities throughout France. One such poster was placed in the bedroom of king Francis I, who until then tolerated the Protestants - thanks to his rivalry with Charles V - but was convinced that...
  4. Consequences of a French victory at Pavia?

    There are plenty on discussions about the French winning the Battle of Pavia, but I don't remember seeing any that looked at the things that could happen outside of Italy as a result. So, what could Francis I get in a peace treaty if he won the battle and captured Charles V? Milan is a given...
  5. Divided France after Hundred Years War?

    I looked through the various threads regarding the Hundred Years War, in which England somehow wins the war and obtains all control of France. But many threaders also point out that it would be just too difficult for the Plantagenet rulers to assert control over all of France. From a military...
  6. WI: Joan of France (daughter of Louis XI) was healthy

    Louis XI arranged marriage between his handicapped daughter Joan and Louis, Duke of Orléans, hoping, that Orléans line would thus die out. But what if Joan happens to be healthy? Would Spider King still be in favour of that match? There was also political motive behind it, as Louis XI arranged...
  7. RedKing

    Would Queen Elizabeth I marry if King Francis II survives and has a son with Mary, Queen Of Scots?

    I literally just had the thought of what would Elizabeth do it King Francis II Of France survives and has a son with Mary, Queen Of Scots?
  8. Cymry-Korean

    Long-term Consequences of French Victory in the Italian Wars?

    I've always thought of the Italian Wars (Late 15th and Early 16th century) as a vastly underutilized period for alternative history and more popular history in general. My question here is what would be the long-term implications of French dominance in Italy, especially over Milan and Northern...
  9. GameBawesome

    Effects of a early Protestant France?

    Protestantism in France is complicated. Francis I initially maintain a level of tolerances, until the 1530s, and his successors would get into conflicts with the Huguenots, who conflicted with the Larger Catholic French Nobles, starting the French Wars of Religion What if, instead of the French...
  10. The Professor

    An AngloFrench union but both divided

    Basically, the situation is that the Crowns of England and France are united but both are disputed to the extent that the AngloFrench dynasty have neither Northern England nor Southern France (which are under rival claimants). How do we get here? What's the status of Wales, Lordship of Ireland...
  11. kasumigenx

    Valois Portugal
    Threadmarks: 2 sets of Broods and a proposal accepted

    Valois Portugal 2 sets of Broods and a proposal accepted 5 years of Mary of Burgundy Mary of Burgundy has given birth to a healthy boy named Francis on September 2, 1481, followed by a daughter named Isabella on May 10, 1484 and a son named Maximilian December 2, 1486, she would have felt...
  12. Louis of Guyenne has a son with Margaret of Burgundy. How is HYW impacted?

    Change is simple-Dauphin has a son with his Burgundian wife, born just few weeks before his death. That infant, grandson of both Charles VI and John the Fearless, is now heir of the French throne according to Salic Law. So are Burgundians going to dominate the scene, marginalizing Armagnacs...
  13. WI: England under House of Valois-Burgundy

    I'm not sure what is most plausible way for achieve it (son of Charles the Bold and Margaret of Burgundy would still be quite far in line of succession, so perhaps Mary of Burgundy is born male instead and that *Philip IV* of Burgundy marries Elizabeth of York, daughter of Edward IV (who happens...
  14. WI: Charles VI of France has one more son

    Out of 6 sons of Charles VI of France and Isabeau of Bavaria only one, future Charles VII, outlived parents. Charles was fifth son of his parents, but not the last. His younger brother Philip was born in 1407 and lived only one day. Say that Philip happened to be healthy and survives childhood...
  15. Valois successor of Sigismund of Luxembourg

    Change happens in 1410. William, son of Antoine of Brabant and Elizabeth of Luxembourg, survives, while his cousin Elizabeth, daughter of Sigismund of Luxembourg and Barbara of Cili, dies. If Sigismund remains childless, then his niece and her Valois son are his heirs. Luxembourgs made mutual...
  16. WI: longer living Louis XI

    Spider King lives in good health additional 20 years and dies in 1503. How would France fare under his prolonged rule instead of regency and then rule of his son? Hardly any Valois monarch after Louis XI could be called competent, his son definitely wasn't exception. So compared to OTL rule of...
  17. WI: No Catherine de Medici

    In my previous thread Catherine died aged 35 as Queen of France and mother of King's children. So what about different svenario: Catherine dies just after being born and never plays any role in history. Catherine through her mother was heiress of Auvergne, thus was valuable candidate for...
  18. Alternate History: Post Battle of Pavia (1525)

    So I'm aware that the Battle of Pavia (1525) and some particular counterfactual scenarios have been aired on this alternatehistory.com forum before, however, in this I aim to ask a different question about which I hope to generate some enlightened (and civilised) discussion. For those who...
  19. PC: Louise de Savoie Marries Louis XII: Children or no?

    ISTR reading somewhere that had Charles VIII lived, OTL's Louis XII (then just Louis II, duc d'Orléans) would've married Louise of Savoy, Dowager comtesse d'Angoulême as a second wife (I'm not sure if this would have been in the late 1490s or after Charles' sister, St. Jeanne de Valois died)...
  20. WI: Charles the Bold Born Female?

    What it says on the lid. Charles the Bold was the only surviving legitimate son of Philippe the Good and his third wife, Isabel of Portugal. But what if he'd been born female? How would this affect the future of the Netherlands as we know it? I mean, Philippe and Isabel were married for the rest...
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