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  1. The Staffords replace the Tudors?

    Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester is the much forgotten fifth son of Edward III. Richard II would arrest Woodstock for plotting against him and he would be murdered awaiting trial. His only son Humphrey, 2nd Earl of Buckingham died of illness. However, like his brothers Clarence and...
  2. Triumphant Return for Edward of Westminster?

    Things look bleak for Edward of Westminster even if he escapes Tewkesbury. His mother Margaret of Anjou and his wife Anne Neville are imprisoned by the Yorkists. The Yorkist regime is safe as with an obvious Lancastrian claimant Gloucester would not risk usurpation. How could Edward of...
  3. An Earlier Yorkist England?

    Richard II was good friends with his cousin Edward of Norwich and apparently would've preferred he succeeded him. Obviously, York has a distant claim to the throne with a brood of Lancasters blocking him from the agnatic succession, never mind agnatic-cognatic, so it seems like an unlikely...
  4. Union of the Crowns... in the 1440s?

    Assume the Yorkist line fizzles out before 1440, that the Duke of Exeter dies prematurely, and that the Somersets still win their power struggle against the Duke of Gloucester. If Henry VI were to die prematurely without his son (or his wife's son) being born, is it correct to say that the...
  5. Lancastrian Burgundy?

    If John, Duke of Bedford had surviving issue with Anne of Burgundy, and some extremely bad luck befalls Mary, Duchess of Cleves such that she has no surviving issue, and Philip the Good and Charles the Bold die at some fortuitous date for the Lancasters could they inherit Burgundy?
  6. EdwardRex

    The Union of the White and Red Roses - A Collaborative Timeline
    Threadmarks: The Birth of Mary of Lancaster

    December 8, 1471: Anne Neville, Dowager Princess of Wales as the widow of Edward of Lancaster, delivered the last Lancastrian heir: Mary of Lancaster. She was named after the Blessed Virgin Mary, as her birth coincided with the Feast of the Immaculate Conception of Our Lady. King Edward IV of...
  7. Henry VI of England and Margaret of Anjou have a daughter

    Lets say in 1454, Henry and Margaret have a daughter named Catherine of England, a year after the birth of their first child, Edward of Lancaster. Can Catherine be married off for an alliance to ensure that the Lancaster's remain on the throne of England? (Wild-card for Edward IV who will not...
  8. WI: Queen Elizabeth marries a Plantagenet?

    After the death of the 17th Earl of Warwick the only legitimate line of the Plantagenets left was through Henry Somerset, 2nd Earl of Worcester. He was a Beaufort, his father being the legitimised bastard of the 3rd Duke of Somerset. They are also the most senior Lancastrian claimants to the...
  9. Henry IV dead at Shrewsbury, 1403: What's next?

    I have questions about the outcomes for three Houses in the aftermath of a victory for Percy in the Battle of Shrewsbury: Percy: This House rebelled against Henry IV for a laundry list of grievances, among them land promised to them in Cumberland being given to a rival (House Neville?) and...
  10. What if Edward III had many more legitimate grandchildren?

    Edward of Woodstock and Joan of Kent Edward (b. 1362) Arthur (b. 1364) Matilda (b. 1365) Edmund (b. 1366) Richard (b. 1367) Joanna (b. 1371) Isabella of England and Enguerrand de Coucy Marie (b. 1366) Philippa (b. 1367) Enguerrand (b. 1368) Armand (b. 1370) Joan of England and Pedro of...
  11. No Pretenders To Lancastrian Rule After Henry V?

    Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417). No Issue. Anne de Mortimer (1388-1409). No Issue. Richard of Conisburgh (1385-1415). No issue. Isabel Despenser (1400-1402). Constance of York (1375-1404). Anne of Gloucester (1383-1401). No Issue I believe with the death of Edmund Mortimer in 1425, who was a...
  12. RedKing

    WI: Richard, Duke of York doesn’t become Lord Protector in 1454?

    The title says it all, what if Richard, 3rd Duke of York doesn’t become the Lord Protector for Henry VI in 1454? The POD is simple, the Lord High Chancellor, Archbishop John Kemp doesn’t die. Even during Henry VI’s madness, English government could continue thanks to the Lord High Chancellor...
  13. Kaiser of Brazil

    WI: Battle at Coventry

    After Edward IV landed near Ravenspur in 1471 to reclaim the throne of England, he began to assemble an army and March south with volunteers and defectors, namely his brother George of Clarence. Finally he went on to besiege Warwick's castle at Coventry. However, Warwick had far greater...
  14. WI: Charles of Bourges left the France

    This thread was mostly inspired by discussion about succesful. Let's say that Charles Valois, also known as Charles the Well-Served or King of Bourges(also, OTL as Charles the Victorious) concludes, that and all hope for his cause is lost. Before Joan is able to reach him, Charles is already...
  15. RedKing

    WI: Charles the Bold gave military support to the House of Lancaster?

    In our timeline, Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy, held Lancastrian sympathies up until the Readeption, when he switched to supporting the Yorks militarily. This was a huge boon for the Yorkists and helped them emerge triumphant against the Lancastrians in the Readeption. But what if Charles’s...
  16. RedKing

    WI: Henry VI had quadruplet daughters?

    Inspired by the Tiny Tudors/Petite Plantagenets trope, the POD here is that in 1453, Margaret of Anjou gives birth to quadruplet daughters. Let’s call them (in order of birth) Katherine, Margaret, Blanche and Elizabeth. Who would they marry? Obviously, Somerset and York are going to compete for...
  17. WI: Henry V crowned King of France

    There is a lot of discussion abour England chances to win HYW in case of Henry V survival. But this is not the one of them. Instead, I want to ask about potential political, cultural and historical consequences of Henry V beign crowned with full ceremony in Reims Cathedral at november 1422. Also...
  18. TheDoofusUser

    WI : Henry V outlives Charles V, Charles VI, and Louis III

    Here's a question that's been on my mind as I've started looking at the HYW and I read a few threads on Henry V outliving either Charles VI and Charles VII and on a thread (this one) about the latter, one person suggested the idea of Louis III Duke of Anjou, who OTL died in 1434 of Malaria...
  19. SunZi

    Beyond the King's river — A timeline of Joan of Arc's death
    Threadmarks: I.A maid dies and the Dauphin falls

    France is, in the first quarter of the 15th century, in a serious situation where its fate seems to be at stake; after the victory of Agincourt and the formation of the Anglo-Burgundian alliance, King Henry V of England succeeds to impose a treaty in Troyes on the mad French monarch Charles VI...
  20. Euphemios

    WI: Edward IV assassinated after Tewkesbury

    Now, though Shakespeare liked the idea and wrote it in, we know that no meeting of any kind occurred at all, and that the royal heir probably died in battle, but what if he had personally killed York? The immediate consequence, I should suppose, is that he is killed as in the play. Is one year...
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