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  1. An Age of Miracles Continues: The Empire of Rhomania

    True, although a Russia that is more populous, less centralized, and especially more educated and liberal, will also increase the likelihood of centrifugal tendencies taking hold and gaining broad support. ITTL we will likely not have 'Russia' but rather, 'The Russias', far more so than IOTL...
  2. Napoleon invades Greece instead of Egypt?

    The Russians deployed troops IOTL in the aftermath of Ibrahim Pasha's victory against the Sultan's troops at Konya. They knew that the British would not tolerate them seizing the opportunity to capture Constantinople, and preferred having a weakened and indebted Sultan there than risking anyone...
  3. Napoleon invades Greece instead of Egypt?

    There was some French involvement IOTL in Greece, namely in the Ionian Islands. It didn't really go that well: the locals did welcome the French as liberators, but the anti-clericalism of the French authorities went too far for most Greeks, and their attempts to gain Ali Pasha of Janina on their...
  4. [Query] Successful Ottomanization or Turkification of Greece?

    The Ottomans IOTL were not really interested in conversions. There was the devshirme, there were some occasional rounds of 'encouraged' conversions when Islamic sentiment was running high, but most people converted to improve their legal standing, and pay fewer taxes. If the Ottomans were...
  5. WI: Alexander the Great lives to 75?

    All true, but the Successors were competing against their peers, and as SlyDessertFox notes, Alexander's family was not killed immediately; this was a gradual process of radicalization and burgeoning ambitions that led there. Alexander is in a different category, as he is the rightful king, and...
  6. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Indeed. A Balkan confederation is possible, but only *after* the Balkan nations establish their states, divide the spoils, fight it out amongst themselves a couple of times, and eventually settle down into co-existence. There may be some early attempts when the mutual differences over...
  7. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    What Lascaris said. Northern Thrace is pretty solidly Slavophone outside the major towns, but just like rural Macedonia, 'Bulgarian', just as 'Greek', was an unknown concept to most of the rural people until someone came (a priest, a schoolteacher, a gendarme, a university-educated youth who...
  8. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    More than a few, though; Greece actually went into full crisis mode when Eastern Rumelia was annexed IOTL, and even mobilized the army for a few months, trying to blackmail a commensurate compensation by threatening war (even though Greece had no common border with Bulgaria). As a result...
  9. Imperator Francorum: A Napoleon II Timeline

    Don't want to derail this thread, so very quickly a few replies: Oh, of course, the Ottoman government was ready and willing to compromise and grant some liberties to its Christian subjects, but only if a) that did not impinge on its sovereignty and b) if it meant that the flow of taxes was...
  10. Imperator Francorum: A Napoleon II Timeline

    That ship has sailed by this time. Whether the Greeks (or any ethnic or religious group) was really and actively 'loyal' to the Ottomans rather than merely acquiescent to their rule is a big topic for discussion. Even after the Revolution IOTL, that 'loyalism' by Greeks living in Ottoman domains...
  11. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    My problem, @Implied, with your narrative is that even if Venizelos is guilty of everything you say, he still is the guiding hand behind everything positive that happened in and for Greece between 1910 and 1932. If he failed in his most grandiose visions, at least he got something done...
  12. The Great Crusade (Reds! Part 3)

    A nice climax! One minor note though, Goering would not use 'Reichsprotektor' since that was the title of the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia and decidedly not grandiose enough. Goering being Goering, he might opt for 'Reichsverweser' (Imperial Regent, or Imperial Deputy).
  13. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    You would need a party system that does not have to reconstitute itself every twenty years (this seems to be the direction TTL is slowly moving towards), a gradual retreat of the crown from active involvement in governance (possibly helped along by a couple of more disinterested/incompetent...
  14. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    An astute observation. And this is one of the big historical ironies: Venizelos' Liberal Party is considered by political scientists to have been the first 'true', ideological party in Greek history, gathering supporters around a political agenda, rather than being merely an assemblage of...
  15. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Venizelos was not all sunshine, especially during his latter years he did veer to authoritarianism, and like many of the most prominent Venizelists he had sympathies for Fascism, but for all his errors and bad choices, he was the one thing that Greece has rarely had in its modern history: he was...
  16. WI: The Abbasids destroy the ERE in 806: would Charlemagne be recognized as the only and legitimate Roman Emperor by the surviving Byzantines?

    Athens was utterly irrelevant at the time. Sicily has a tradition of such attempts, has a sizeable army and fleet, and is secure from attack due to geography. You might indeed see other 'emperors' proclaimed in Greece, e.g. the strategos of Thessalonica, Hellas or of the Pelopponese. Byzantine...
  17. WI: The Abbasids destroy the ERE in 806: would Charlemagne be recognized as the only and legitimate Roman Emperor by the surviving Byzantines?

    Leaving aside a discussion about whether the Abbasids even wanted to/were able to capture Constantinople, if the city fell, then certainly the governor of Sicily would be proclaimed emperor as soon as the news arrived, or even before that, if the siege was on the 717 scale. He would rule what...
  18. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    Well, to be fair, the Smyrna Zone was not Venizelos' proposal; that was what the Allies, very much for their own reasons, were willing to give him. Venizelos claimed the entire western coast of Asia Minor for Greece at Versailles. Not that that was much more defensible in the long term, or...
  19. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline

    A few more villages than that, but after a century+ of Italianization, either via the state or through popular culture (TV and radio) and urbanization, the language is almost dead, despite the existence of a few cultural associations that try to keep it alive. Still, I very much doubt the...
  20. Catholic Byzantium

    You said the magic words: "in Italy", where the Papacy was a) a temporal power and b) it could involve itself directly in the diplomatic relations of the various Italian states, who all acknowledged its authority and themselves tried to win its backing. But the topic of this thread is not Italy...
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