====== Points of Divergence : Society and Societal Norms ====== Points of divergence concerning various cultural and habitual developments of human civilisation and human cultures. Organised by topic into sections, with each section having its POD entries sorted as chronologically as possible. ==== General civilisation PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=378461|What's your favorite prehistoric POD ?]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/why-cant-we-speed-up-the-mesolithic.290624/|Why can't we speed up the Mesolithic ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=255877|Why no earlier civilizations ?]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/questions-regarding-bronze-age-collapse.427987/|Questions regarding "Bronze Age Collapse"]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/recreation-of-the-bronze-age-systems-post-collapse.422262/|Recreation of the Bronze Age systems post-collapse]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-no-bronze-age-apocalypse.413451/|No "Bronze Age Collapse"]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/discussion-peripheral-civilisations-during-the-e-med-bronze-age.420232/|Peripheral civilisations during the eastern Mediterranean Bronze Age]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-no-sea-people-invasions.421667/|WI: No Sea People invasions]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=235419|No Classic Mesoamerican Collapse]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=191552|Ideas about more developed medieval era Amerindian civilizations]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.org/Discussion/showthread.php?t=211818|Why didn't urban Native American cultures move particularly far north ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=139624|Challenge: European Society collapses before 1492 AD]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=348345|Challenge: Make Africa the most developed and stable region in the world (with a POD in the 16th century at the earliest)]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=374812|Challenge: Proto-Swahili City States in the Indosphere]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=307005|Challenge: Weirdest 19th century]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Population and housing PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265720|Plausibility check: Europe with a population of 1,5 billion people (POD in 100 AD)]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=351384|Population carrying capacity of the Malay Archipelago]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=152074|American cities that could have been more prominent]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=246430|Global population without decolonisation ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262634|Stop the plague of sprawl !]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272585|WI: The world with half the population ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272585|WI: The world in 2013 with half the OTL population]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Sociopolitical topics PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=301129|Challenge: Ideologies based on psychology instead of economics]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-earliest-possible-feminist-movement.425225/|Challenge: Earliest possible feminist movement]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=244112|WI: No feudalism]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=342927|Medieval Muslim minorities in Christian Europe]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/queen-elizabeth-i-feminist.383933/|Plausibility check: Queen Elizabeth I a feminist]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=342939|Challenge: Socially liberal authoritarianism]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=273505|How inevitable is nationalism ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=279767|Challenge: Native Americans "pull an Iwakura"]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/weird-feminist-what-if.217410/|Weird feminist what-if]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=127916|Challenge: Minorities in New World countries are politically conservative]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=349692|How would American culture be different with the draft ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=335833|Challenge: No Great Depression]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=271461|Plausibility check: Large-scale American anti-war movement in WWII ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=176971|Challenge: Conservative Counterculture]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=159165|An ATL 1960s counterculture in an USA which lost WWII]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=271575|What could the eventual post-communist flags of the presently remaining communist countries look like ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Human and civic rights PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=266107|WI: Discrimination based on eye colour]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=25457|African slaver empire]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-classical-world-abolitionism.406412/|Challenge: Classical world abolitionism]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=103637|Challenge: Stoicism bringing the downfall of slavery in Rome]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=244112|WI: No feudalism]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=31934|Plausibility check: How long could feudalism have survived?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265041|Challenge: Avoid Black slavery]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=5132|No black slavery]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=191549|WI widespread animal slavery ?]]** (the wherefores of domestication) **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=187741|Different crops and the viability of slavery]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=270811|Can slavery be ended peacefully with a POD around 1800 or afterward ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=264983|Plausibility check: Napoleon outlaws slavery]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=258963|Plausibility check: American Racial Equality before 1900 ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=258164|How long can a segregated society last ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=249447|WI modern society stayed more misogynistic for a longer time ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Social attitudes PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/womens-rights-in-atls.202777/|Women's Rights in ATLs]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=299686|Plausibility check: Female legionaires]]** **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=115636|Sociopolitical and Cultural progress if Roman Empire survives]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=350313|WI: No Surnames]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=267311|Piracy as a British stereotype]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=245427|Plausibility check: Challenge: Female Soldiers in the 1700s]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=317029|WI: No rise of secularism in the 18th and 19th century West ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=221288|Challenge: Dueling survives to present day]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=249447|WI modern society stayed more misogynistic for a longer time ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=320221|Challenge: Spread female AND male military conscription]]** **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=76757|Plausibility check: More women recruited for combat in WWII]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=301278|Plausibility check: Earliest possible acceptance of female fighter pilots post-1900 ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=332069|Did the past smell like cigarettes ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=176971|Challenge: Conservative Counterculture]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=358797|Earth seen regularly from orbit by thousands of tourists - any psychological/social effects ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=134188|Cultural effects of a nuclear war]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262625|Most and least multicultural Europes by 2012]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=291860|Will women ever play professional sports alongside men ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Education PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=219919|Challenge: Arabian science continues]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=374833|Challenge: Western-style 'Englightenment' era in the Middle East]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/orthography-pod.17934/|Orthography POD]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265487|How powerful is a book ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=121285|Books and TV shows effect on history]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=30416|Plausibility check: Teaching of Classics (history, languages, geography, social sciences) marginalized or cancelled ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Culinary habits PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/alernative-cusine.201586/|Alternate Cuisine]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/alternate-foods-and-drinks.411503/|Alternate Foods and Drinks]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/alternate-food-drink-thread.242962/|Alternate Food & Drink Thread]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/culinary-and-agricultural-pods.170806/|Culinary and agricultural PODs]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=310536|A world without forks]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/alternate-utensils.449061/|Alternate utensils]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/but-what-if-they-cooked-it.154948/|Boiling water before drinking it common in medieval Europe]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/cuisine-and-foods-of-japanese-korean-chinese-colonized-west-coast-of-north-america.394841/|Cuisine and foods of a Japanese/Korean/Chinese colonized west coast of North America ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/german-cuisine-reigns-supreme.30698/|Challenge: German cuisine as popular and well-regarded as French cuisine]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=236022|Challenge: Tea-drinking and coffee-drinking countries reversed]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=279931|WI: No fast food chains]]** **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=57824|Non-American multinational fast-food and similar chains]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=346805|Challenge: An Asian-themed fast food chain is as big as McDonald's or Burger King]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/alternatives-to-vanilla.200312/|Alternatives to vanilla ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/europeanised-chinese-cuisine-what-makes-it-europeanised.109364/|Europeanised Asian Cuisine - what makes it Europeanised ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=94897|Alternate history clothing, dining habits, etc.]]** **[[agriculture|Points of Divergence: Agriculture]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Clothing and fashion PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260062|Are there any standards for fashion and military uniforms in ATLs ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=145611|Making male skirts fashionable with at least 80% of the world, and trousers considered appropriate women's wear ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=264195|No early modern era "wig phase" in fashion]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=298336|Challenge : Blue is seen as the colour of girls, pink as colour of boys]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=252889|Neck ties go out of fashion]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=344729|Zipper not invented or invented at a different time]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=335311|Suppose pantyhose had never been invented/developed]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=94897|Alternate history clothing, dining habits, etc.]]** **[[agriculture|Points of Divergence: Agriculture]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Fine arts and design PODs ==== **[[pods:arts architecture and monuments|Points of Divergence : Arts, Architecture and Monuments]]** **[[pods:musical instruments and recording technology|Points of Divergence : Musical Instruments and Recording Technology]]** **[[pods:popular culture|Points of Divergence : Popular Culture]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Holiday PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265215|Christmas PODs]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=263814|Why do many modern Christmas decorations have an early 1800s aesthetic ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Healthcare PODs ==== **[[pods:medical science|Points of Divergence : Medical Science]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Sports and recreation PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=221288|Challenge: Dueling survives to present day]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=192232|WI: Richard the Lionheart popularizes bullfights in England]]** **[[sports|Points of Divergence : Sports]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Various ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=251160|The butterfly effect and human culture]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== ASB/DBWI/etc. ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=298609|DBWI: Anti-Magical racism is on the rise]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=244076|DBWI: Industrial Revolution in Europe]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=219671|ASBs reverse standards of living in countries]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=273055|WI ASBs made every country "first world" ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== See Also ==== **[[Language and linguistics|Points of Divergence : Language and linguistics]]** **[[pods:famous people|Points of Divergence : Famous People]]** **[[political movements|Points of Divergence : Political Movements]]** **[[religions|Points of Divergence : Religions]]** **[[resources:everyday aspects of life in various eras|Useful Resources on Everyday Aspects of Life in Various Eras]]** ---- ==== Navigation ==== **[[pods:pods|Points of Divergence Main Directory]]**