WI: A Third Hittite Empire is established.

Excelent, Robert great start.....you should have kept the unified Israel together it this TL, and why not ?
 
Very good, keep the TL going, I want to see what happens with the Greeks, and maybe the Macedonians.
 
I would like to add to the Please Continue chorus. Nothing seems wild in this TL which may disappoint some but from me is a compliment. Please make some remarks about relgious/cultural developments.
 
Phaeton said:
Excelent, Robert great start.....you should have kept the unified Israel together it this TL, and why not ?

Because the Hittite city states are far enough away that they wouldn't logically have an impact on what happens in Israel with regard to the succession.
 
840-800 BC--Period of Urartian expansion. Under the warrior kings Sardur I, Ishpuinis,
and Menuas, the Kingdom of Urartu expands at the expense of Assyria, Phrygia, and
Hatti. By the end of the period, the Mushki have been pushed back to the Halys River,
and both Assyria and Hatti are virtual vassals of the Urartian king, paying yearly tributes.



So this new Urartian expansion....one can suspect an powerful emrging state like that wouldposed as an threat to the Egyptian Kingdom woudn't ?How are the realtions between Hatti and Egypt? Do the Hittite still practice thier same religon before hand or worship something else?
 
Phaeton said:
840-800 BC--Period of Urartian expansion. Under the warrior kings Sardur I, Ishpuinis,
and Menuas, the Kingdom of Urartu expands at the expense of Assyria, Phrygia, and
Hatti. By the end of the period, the Mushki have been pushed back to the Halys River,
and both Assyria and Hatti are virtual vassals of the Urartian king, paying yearly tributes.



So this new Urartian expansion....one can suspect an powerful emrging state like that wouldposed as an threat to the Egyptian Kingdom woudn't ?How are the realtions between Hatti and Egypt? Do the Hittite still practice thier same religon before hand or worship something else?

Urartu is in the area of present-day Armenia, north of Assyria and Hatti. So it is not, at this period of history, a threat to Egypt. Egypt is in a state of weakness and chaos during this period, and so does not figure in the timeline to any significant degree as of yet. It will later, of course. As for the Hittite religion, they are practicing the old Hittite religion, with the addition of the worship of Canaanite and Aramaean gods which have been adopted from the other ethnic groups of the empire.
 
THE THIRD HITTITE EMPIRE, PART TWO

c. 1000 BC onward--Greek Colonization of the east coast of Asia Minor. Also at about
this time, the alphabet is developed by the Phoenicians. Phoenician traders and colonists
will spread it far and wide over the succeeding centuries, where it will be adapted by
many peoples, including, eventually, the Greeks and Romans.

c. 900 BC onward--Phoenician traders begin to found colonies overseas in north Africa,
Spain, Sicily and Sardinia.

c. 815 BC--Carthage is founded by an expedition from the Phoenician city of Tyre.

800 BC--Death of King Hattusili Tesub II of Hatti. His son takes the throne as King
Telepinu II, and will become known as “Telepinu the Great†because of his
accomplishments during his long reign. Also in this year, King Jehoahaz of Israel dies,
and is succeeded by Jehoash.

c. 800 BC--The Etruscans arrive in Italy. Also at about this time, the Greek version of the
Phoenician alphabet is first used, and the earliest iron age societies...proto-Celtic
peoples...develop in Germany and Austria.

c. 800 BC onward--Greece is gradually emerging from the Dark Ages following the fall
of the Mycenaean civilization. An increase in trade and the establishment of
governmental defense fortifications allows for the emergence of Greek city-states (the
Polis) from tribal communities. These grow up around marketplaces and include cities
such as Athens, Thebes, Sparta, Corinth and Megara on the Greek mainland. For the most
part, the Greek city-states are similar in their political evolution, with the exception of
Sparta's elite dictatorship. Most begin their political histories as monarchies, evolve to
oligarchies, are overthrown during the age of the tyrants (c. 650-500 BC) and eventually
establish democracies in the sixth and fifth centuries. Of the Greek city-states, Athens
and Sparta will be the two most important.

798 BC--Death of King Joash of Judah. He is succeeded by Amaziah.

c. 795 BC--King Ben Hadad III is a weak ruler, and not at all in the mold of his illustrious
forebears. The other Aramaean cities revolt against his rule, and the powerful Damascene
state breaks up.

c. 794 BC--King Amaziah of Judah declares war against Israel, but is defeated and
captured by King Jehoash of Israel. He will remain a prisoner of Jehoash until the latter’s
death in 784 BC. His sixteen-year-old son, Azariah, is named King in his stead.

790 BC--King Telepinu II of Hatti, seeing an opportunity for territorial expansion, makes
an alliance with King Jehoash of Israel and King Azariah of Judah against Damascus.

c. 790 BC--Greek colonists found the trading settlement of Al Mina in Syria, where they trade
with the Hittites. Contact is established between the two civilizations for the first time
since the fall of the Second Hittite Empire.

789-784 BC--Hatti, Israel, and Judah wage war on Damascus. The Kings of Hatti have
adapted Assyrian siege technology (battering rams, siege towers), and Damascus is taken
in 784 BC. King Ben Hadad III is captured and executed. Israel and Judah recover all the
lands taken from them by Damascus, and Hatti absorbs Damascus itself, along with the
other Aramaean city states (which, upon the surrender of Damascus, surrender to King
Telepinu of Hatti).

785 BC--Death of King Menuas of Urartu. Argishtis I takes the throne. Argishtis is even
more expansionist than his predecessors, and generally makes life miserable for his
neighbors with incessant warfare.

784-750 BC--Israel and Judah expand. Israel re-takes Ammon and Moab, Judah takes
Edom and Philistia. Both Kingdoms prosper mightily and maintain their alliance with
Hatti.

784 BC--Death of King Jehoash of Israel. He is succeeded by Jeroboam II. It is Jeroboam
II who recovers Ammon and Moab for Israel. Jeroboam releases King Amaziah of Judah,
who returns to his own land, where he resumes the Kingship.

780 BC--Recognizing the common threat posed by the expansionist kings of Urartu to
both of their kingdoms, King Telepinu II of Hatti and King Adad Nirari III of Assyria
conclude a treaty of alliance against Urartu. When Adad Nirari III dies a few years later,
Telepinu will renew the agreement with the new king, Shalmaneser IV, and then again
with Shalmaneser’s successor, Ashur Dan III.

780-768 BC--King Telepinu II of Hatti and Kings Adad Nirari III, Shalmaneser IV, and
Ashur Dan III wage war against Urartu. The combined armies of Assyria and Hatti are
too powerful for the Urartians to resist, and the armies of Urartu are gradually beaten
back and many of their fortress cities are taken by siege. However, the Urartian capital of
Tushpa is not taken, and a treaty is finally signed in 768 BC which ends the war. The
power of Urartu is effectively broken, and although it will continue as a player in middle
eastern politics and warfare for over a century more, it will never again threaten Hatti or
Assyria as it did previously. Hatti expands northward, and takes back the old Hittite
homeland in the bend of the Halys River (which the Urartians had taken from the
Phrygians in the previous century).

783 BC--Death of King Adad Nirari III of Assyria. Shalmaneser IV takes the throne.

776 BC--First recorded Olympic Games are held at Olympia in Greece.

773 BC--Death of King Shalmaneser IV of Assyria. Ashur Dan III takes the throne.

c. 770 BC--Carthage founds a colony at Gadir, on the coast of Iberia. The city provides a
gateway to Spanish silver.

769 BC--King Amaziah of Judah, despite his successes against the Edomites and
Philistines since the war with Damascus, has fallen into idolatry, and the people revolt
against him. He flees to Lachish, where he is murdered. He is succeeded by his son,
Azariah.

c. 765-745 BC onward--Assyria, despite it’s participation in the victory over Urartu a few
years earlier, falls into a period of decline as local rebellions and plague ravage the
kingdom.

765 BC--Death of King Telepinu II “the Great†of Hatti. He is succeeded by his son, who
takes the throne as King Suppiluliuma III. Suppiluliuma begins rebuilding the old Hittite
capital at Hattusas, which he plans to use as a northern administration center.

763 BC--Death of King Argishtis I of Urartu. Sardur II takes the throne.

755 BC--Death of King Ashur Dan III of Assyria. Ashur Nirari V takes the throne.

753 BC--Founding of Rome by Romulus and Remus (legendary).

750 BC--King Azariah of Judah is struck down with leprosy. His son Jotham reigns as
regent from this time onward.

c. 750 BC onward--Greek colonization of the Black Sea and the western Mediterranean
begins.

c. 750-650 BC--Hoplite phalanx adopted by cities of Greece. Previously fighting was
carried out by a relatively few warriors with a shield, sword and spear with no armor and
were not organized in a phalanx. Hoplites had defensive armor and fought in close
formation, phalanx, a series of rows.

748 BC--Death of King Jeroboam II of Israel. He is succeeded by his son, Zachariah.
However, Zachariah will rule for only six months before being murdered by one of his
court officials, Shallum, who usurps the throne. Shallum does not enjoy his ill-gotten
gains long, however, as he is, in turn, murdered by another official named Menahem, who
also usurps the throne. Menahem will rule for ten years.

745 BC--Military coup in Assyria. King Ashur Nirari V is overthrown, and an army
general takes the throne as King Tiglath Pileser III. Tiglath Pileser will abandon the
alliance with Hatti, and will resume Assyria’s aggressively expansionist policies, leading
to virtually continuous warfare throughout his reign.

746-744 BC--King Tiglath Pileser III of Assyria receives an appeal for aid from King
Nabun-nasir of Babylon, who is beset by invading Aramaean tribes. Tiglath Pileser
defeats the Aramaeans and reduces Babylonia to a tributary state.

743 BC--Elam has been in a disunified state since the defeat inflicted upon it by King
Nebuchadnezzar I of Babylon over 300 years ago. In this year, a new dynasty comes to
power at Susa which will re-unify the country. King Khumbanigash I takes the throne as
the first king of a united Elam, which will become a major power in the succeeding years.

743-741 BC--War between Assyria and Hatti. In 743 BC, Tiglath Pileser III of Assyria
invades Hatti and tries to sieze the cities of Haran and Carchemish. The cities strongly
resist, and Tiglath Pileser becomes involved in a protracted siege at both cities. King
Suppiluliuma III of Hatti makes an alliance with King Sardur II of Urartu and
Suppliluliuma’s vassal, King Menahem of Israel, against Assyria. The allies meet
Tiglath Pileser’s army in battle outside of Carchemish in 742 BC. The Assyrians are
victorious, but at huge cost, and have to abandon their sieges and return to Assyria. The
following year, King Suppliluliuma leads the allied forces into Assyria, where they meet
Tiglath Pileser again in battle, this time outside the city of Ashur. The Assyrians this
time meet defeat, and Tiglath Pileser sues for peace. A treaty is agreed upon later that
year. Urartu and Hatti both take some minor territory from Assyria. King Tiglath Pileser
III plots revenge.

c. 740 BC--For many years, Egypt has been a fragmented land, with as many as four rival
dynasties ruling at the same time from cities such as Tanis, Sais, Leontopolis,
Herakleopolis, Hermopolis, Thebes, and Memphis. But in about 740 BC, this is about to
change due to outside intervention. King Piankhi of Kush leads his army northward, and
conquers Egypt as far north as Thebes. Within a few years he receives oaths of loyalty
from the various rival kings of Egypt, effectively unifying the country for the first time in
a century and a half. Under his dynasty, the 25th (Kushite) Dynasty, Egypt will begin to
take an active role in the affairs of the middle east once more.

740 BC--Death of King Azariah of Judah. Regent Jotham succeeds to the throne.

740-738 BC--Since c. 850 BC, the Medes, a group of Indo-Iranian tribes, have been
settling in the region east of the Zagros Mountains, and their power has been growing,
especially since they have often allied themselves with Urartu. However, they have never
managed to unite, and the Assyrians have been able to keep these fierce tribesmen in
check. Beginning with Shalmaneser II in 836 BC, Assyrian kings have campaigned
against them. King Tiglath Pileser III continues this tradition, campaigning against the
Medes from 740-738 BC. He is unable to conquer them, but devastates their country and
carries away much booty. Median power is greatly reduced.

739 BC--King Sardur II of Urartu breaks the alliance with Hatti. Border warfare between
the two kingdoms begins which will continue on for some time. Tiglath Pileser III of
Assyria, of course, will take advantage of this.

738 BC--King Mita (Midas) III comes to the throne of Phrygia. He will war against Hatti
in an unsuccessful attempt to regain the former Phrygian lands east of the Halys River.
Mita will also be known for his fabulous wealth, giving rise to the legend of “Midas of
the Golden Touch.†Also in this year, King Suppiluliuma III of Hatti dies. He is
succeeded by his son, who takes the throne as King Ura-Tarhundas I. Also in this year,
King Menahem of Israel dies, and is succeeded by his son, Pekahiah.

736 BC--King Pekahiah of Israel is assassinated by one of his generals, Pekah, who
usurps the throne.

735 BC--Tiglath Pileser III of Assyria invades Urartu. No territory is annexed by Assyria...this was more of a raid than an actual war of conquest. His armies carry away a lot of booty, however, and Urartu is weakened.

c. 735-716 BC--First Messenian War. Sparta conquers the neighboring state of Messenia.
The population of Messenia is enslaved and becomes the “helot†class in Spartan society.

734 BC--Chaldeans take power in Babylonia. In the last century, Babylonia was reunified
under a native dynasty. However, the state has remained weak, and has been under the
domination (but not direct rule) of Assyria during most of this time. In 734, the
Chaldeans, a tribe related to the Aramaeans who had settled in the region three centuries
before, sieze power in Babylon and found their own dynasty under a king called
Ukin-zer. This dynasty will be much more aggressive, and will make Babylonia a major
player in world politics again over the succeeding years. Also in this year, King Sardur II
of Urartu dies. Rusas I takes the throne.

733 BC--King Tiglath Pileser III of Assyria lays siege to the Hittite border city of Haran.
The city falls before King Ura-Tarhundas I of Hatti can intervene, and is sacked. When
the King of Hatti does arrive with his army, he is defeated by Tiglath Pileser’s Assyrian
host, but the cost to the Assyrians is so high that they accept an offer of peace from the
Hittite King. Hatti cedes the city of Haran, along with the territories it took from Assyria
in 741 BC, to Assyria.

732 BC--Death of King Jotham of Judah. His son, Ahaz, succeeds to the throne. Ahaz
will fall into idolatry, and will be very unpopular in Judah. Also in this year, King Pekah
of Israel is assassinated one of his generals, Hoshea, who usurps the throne.

731-728 BC--King Ukin-zer of Babylon makes an alliance with King Khumbanigash I of
Elam against Assyria. Tiglath Pileser III of Assyria invades Babylonia, and in a campaign
which lasts for almost four years, finally defeats the allied Babylonian and Elamite
armies and King Ukin-zer is captured and executed in 728 BC. King Tiglath Pileser
declares himself King of Babylonia...the first Assyrian monarch to do so. He reigns there
under the name King Pulu (and thus becomes known as Pul in the pages of the Bible).

c. 728 BC--The Medes are united for the first time by King Deioces.

726 BC--King Tiglath Pileser III of Assyria dies, and is succeeded by his son,
Shalmaneser V. Like his father, Shalmaneser rules Babylonia as well, reigning under the
name of King Ululas.

c. 725 BC--The Cimmerians, a nomadic Indo-Iranian people living in the region north of
the Black and Caspian Seas, are defeated by the Scythians and forced out of their
homeland. The Cimmerians had been using war chariots, but quickly adopted Scythian
light cavalry tactics after being defeated by said people. Some of them settle in the
Crimea (giving that peninsula their name), but most will flee south through the Caucasus
Mountains into Anatolia and Mesopotamia, where they will cause great destruction.

722-721 BC--King Shalmaneser V of Assyria is assassinated in 722 BC, and civil war
breaks out in Assyria. The final victor, Shalmaneser’s younger brother, will take the
throne as King Sargon II in 721 BC.

721 BC--The assassination of King Shamaneser V of Assyria has lead to chaos in
Babylonia. In Babylon, a Chaldean chieftain related to the former King Ukin-zer
takes the throne, reigning as King Marduk-apal-iddina II (who will be known as
Merodach Baladan in the Bible). The new king is not content to be an Assyrian vassal,
and he will begin intriguing with the kings of other lands in an attempt to form an alliance
aimed at the destruction of Assyria, and he quickly concludes an alliance with King
Khumbanigash I of Elam against Assyria. King Sargon II of Assyria tries to nip the
conspiracy in the bud with an invasion of Babylonia, but is defeated by the combined
Babylonian and Elamite forces and forced to retreat to Assyria.

720 BC--The Cimmerians burst out of the Caucasus and invade the Kingdom of Urartu.
King Rusas I attempts a pre-emptive attack, but is defeated. Urartu is looted as far south
as Lake Urmia, but their fortified cities are not taken by the nomads, and the kingdom
survives (albeit severely weakened). This proves to be a temporary incursion by the
Cimmerians. They will return, however. Also in this year, King Marduk-apal-iddina of
Babylon, who has been negotiating with King Ura-Tarhundas I of Hatti, concludes a
treaty of alliance with Hatti. King Ura-Tarhundas had been impressed by the victory of
Babylon and Elam over King Sargon of Assyria the previous year, and this is what
persuades him to join the anti-Assyrian alliance.

720-710 BC--The alliance of Babylon, Elam, and Hatti declare war on Assyria in 720 BC.
In a series of grinding campaigns which will consume the next decade, the three powers
destroy Assyrian power forever. The great cities of Assyria are taken, one by one, and
sacked, and the Assyrian armies are defeated. The final straw comes when King Rusas I
of Urartu joins the anti-Assyrian alliance. King Sargon II is killed in battle outside
Nineveh in 712 BC. His son, Sennacherib, is unable to recover the situation, and is
himself killed when Nineveh itself falls to siege in 710 BC. Assyria disappears from the
map as an independent state. The victorious allies divide the land between them.
Ura-Tarhundas I of Hatti takes the region west of the Harbur River. King
Marduk-apal-iddina II of Babylon takes everything east of the Habur River and south of
the junction of the Upper Zab and Tigris Rivers (including the cities of Nuzi and Ashur).
King Argishtis II of Urartu (who had succeeded his father, Rusas I, in 714 BC) takes the
territory west of the Habur River and north of the junction of the Upper Zab and Tigris
Rivers, including the cities of Nineveh, Calah, and Sargon’s capital at Dur Sharrukin.
King Shutruk-Nahhunte II of Elam (who had succeeded his father, Khumbanigash I, in
717 BC) is pretty much left out in the cold, and this, along with the disputed nature of the
border between Babylon and Urartu (who have no obvious natural boundary between
them, unlike the Hittites with their border on the Harbur River), will lead to much warfare
in the succeeding decades.

717 BC--Death of King Khumbanigash I of Elam. He is succeeded by King
Shutruk-Nahhunte II.
715 BC--King Ahaz of Judah dies, and is succeeded by his son, Hezekiah.

714 BC--Death of King Rusas I of Urartu. Argishtis II takes the throne.

712 BC--Death of Pharaoh Piankhi of Egypt/Kush. He is succeeded by his son, Shabaka.
Shabaka will, shortly after assuming the throne, attack the last remaining native Egyptian
stronghold, the city-state of Sais, which is ruled by Pharaoh Bocchoris of the 24th
Dynasty. The city falls, and Bocchoris is slain. But some of his family survive, and will
eventually return to throne of Egypt as the 26th Dynasty.

709-705 BC--War between Babylon and Elam, as King Shutruk-Nahhunte II tries to make
good his claim to some of the spoils from the recent war with Assyria. The war is
inconclusive.

705-702 BC--Pharaoh Shabaka of Egypt, flush with his victory over Sais, decides to
expand his empire into Asia. Accordingly, in the year 705 BC he invades Judah and
Israel. While King Hoshea of Israel immediately submits to Shabaka and joins him in the
assault on Judah, King Hezekiah of Judah calls on King Ura-Tarhundas I of Hatti for aid.
King Ura-Tarhundas responds by leading an army southward against the Egyptians. The
two forces meet in the Valley of Jezreel, near the town of Meggido. A bloody battle is
fought in which the forces of Hatti and Judah emerge victorious. Shabaka retreats to
Egypt, and abandons his ally, King Hoshea of Israel, to his fate. The kings of Hatti and
Judah then invade Israel, and lay siege to Hoshea in his stronghold at Samaria. The city
falls, after a siege lasting 2 years, in 702 BC. Hoshea is captured and executed, and King
Ura-Tarhundas gives the land of Israel to King Hezekiah of Judah, in exchange for a vow
of fealty from said monarch. For the first time in over 200 years, the twelve tribes of
Israel are re-united under the rule of the House of David.

701 BC--Death of King Ura-Tarhundas I of Hatti. He is succeeded by his son, who takes
the throne as King Suhis Tesub I.
 
Map of the Near East, 900 BC

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732 BC--Death of King Jotham of Judah. His son, Ahaz, succeeds to the throne. Ahaz
will fall into idolatry, and will be very unpopular in Judah. Also in this year, King Pekah
of Israel is assassinated one of his generals, Hoshea, who usurps the throne.

I think that if the truth was to be telled[ falling into Idolatry] sinply means not agreeing with what the preists want to do.
 
DuQuense said:
I think that if the truth was to be telled[ falling into Idolatry] sinply means not agreeing with what the preists want to do.

That may well be true. But to read the descriptions of what Ahaz was doing (even sacrificing his own children to Molech), he sounds like a rather evil man.
 
it's good. keep up the good work!

When this is finished, will this TL be featured on the page that has your egypt TL?
 
G.Bone said:
it's good. keep up the good work!

When this is finished, will this TL be featured on the page that has your egypt TL?

Thank you. :) Yes, I will probably post the finished product there, with my other timelines.
 
another great Installment robert....It would be interesting if you kept The Kushites in control of egypt instead of handing it over to the 26th dynasty. Good to see the UHK back together again....I have a feeling things will heat up much this next installment.
 
I eventually lose interest in ancient TL's which insist on making it to "now". Some people on this Board like those so it's a matter of taste.

But you are a long way from that point and I am still very interested in this project.
 
Phaeton said:
another great Installment robert....

Thank you.

Phaeton said:
It would be interesting if you kept The Kushites in control of egypt instead of handing it over to the 26th dynasty.

Well, I think the Kushites will last somewhat longer in this TL, but the native Egyptians are not going to stand being ruled by "Nubian foreigners" forever and will eventually revolt.

Phaeton said:
Good to see the UHK back together again...

Yes, it will be interesting to see how long they can last being sandwiched between Egypt and Hatti...especially with Egypt being ruled by expansionist dynasties (25th and 26th).

Phaeton said:
I have a feeling things will heat up much this next installment.

Probably so. For one thing, the Cimmerian invasions are going to begin in earnest in this segment, and that is going to have a lot of impacts. And by the end of the next segment, we are almost ready for the Persians to arrive on the scene. Haven't decided yet if Hatti is going to be able to withstand Cyrus of Persia. But we shall see. ;)
 
I have asome more questions Robert

1.With Egypt being under control the Nubians for an much longer time period than in OTL, the countries reserves should be coming steadily now that the two counties are united right? Would an Kushite king send a fleet simmilar to that of Pharoah Necho II like OTL .

2. How stable is The Hittite economy ?

3. With The UHK being reunited, would it be wise for them to become more expansionist and possibly conquer the lands of Sheba(OTL Yemen and some of Ethopia ?
 
I have asome more questions Robert

1.With Egypt being under control the Nubians for an much longer time period than in OTL, the countries reserves should be coming steadily now that the two counties are united right? Would an Kushite king send a fleet simmilar to that of Pharoah Necho II like OTL .

2. How stable is The Hittite economy ?

3. With The UHK being reunited, would it be wise for them to become more expansionist and possibly conquer the lands of Sheba(OTL Yemen and some of Ethopia ?
 
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