What exactly do you mean? It is nowhere near healthy, no, but a nasty dictatorship. However, it will (for now) be stable, if you mean that?
Vive la Revolution!: The story of Fructidor and Beyond
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What exactly do you mean? It is nowhere near healthy, no, but a nasty dictatorship. However, it will (for now) be stable, if you mean that?
So, like South Africa? Also, how is Finland, and i take it the pick is a British Empire remnants?
Yes, it is like South Africa but somewhat more extreme and much more imperialist/ambitious.
Finland is an independent and proud leftist ally of the United Soviet Worker's Republics and of the UWR, but it is independent and not quite communist. And the pink areas of Africa and Arabia you mean? Yes, remnants of the British Empire governed from Cape Town, where the monarch resides, too. And the (relatively) few parts of the Navy that remained loyal.
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I think he was talking about the industrial-scale genocide needed for Greece to regain control of Anatolia in the 20th century.
You will see that later, but for now, no. Also, Anatolia? Is a protectorate much like Bohemia and Moravia for Nazi Germany... and that didn't require "industrial-style genocide" (Adolf did it nonetheless, but more because he was so mad than because there were revolutions)
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The only problem with this explanation is that the population of Turkey is twice that of Greece at the time.
Yeah. There would be alot of bloodshed for Greece to even remotely control that much of Anatolia and not be in a state of total collapse or just be "Turkey".
Okay, I will change that then tomorrow. I have now found an alternative plan for Turkey..
Another bump, because I would like even more commentary on the third update.
Reposting the, now finished, update. Partly due to end-of-page syndrome...
CXXXVIII:
CXXXIX:
CXL:
CXLI:
CXLII:
CXLIV:
CXLV:
CXLVI:
CXLVIII:
Floréal CXXXVIII - Ventôse CXLVIII
No Peace in Our Time
CXXXVIII:
- The radically interventionist policies of Henry L. Stimson start to backfire as the Worker's International, as the alliance of the communist powers is called, starts to threaten the USA with intervention. Under this impression, The Canadian United Syndicates (CUS) start to fight back.
- Manchukuo is fully secured, declared independent, and made a Japanese puppet on 8 Thermidor.
- The USA, together with "Maritime separatist" collaborators, have on 22 Thermidor taken all of the Maritimes and on 29 Messidor they had already taken Vancouver Island. These two victories incite the Worker's Internationale to intervene against the USA which is now seen as endangering the Worker's International.
Denmark agrees with them, having experienced a leftist (more social-democrat, though), electoral victory in Vendémiaire, to allow troops and ships to pass through their territorial waters although they will not provide any help of their own. The only one to help the USA are Japan and India, but quite honestly, they are more occupied with furthering their goals in Asia.
- Hitler's Prussia, Austria-Hungary and others having lost World War One start to secretly rearm as the Red Entente are not looking.
CXXXIX:
- Black Sextidi and then Black Octidi hits the world, especially the USA, on 16 and 18 Vendémiaire. The Dow Jones has it's highest loss in a day with 16 %, and it is constantly slipping... Many shareholders have lost their, or most of their money by Germinal. Investments and capital flow are drooping, and the biggest economic crisis ever has started in earnest in Pluviôse.
- With a war on it's home turf, and because the communist economies (due to their safety) profiting from the losses over the whole world, the USA falls down more and more steadily. Troops are evicted from Canada's soil, and the "separatists" crushed, over the course of this year, and on 19 Floréal, a historic event takes place: Foreign troops enter the territory of the United States of America in Maine and the Dakotas, for the first time since 1812. On 28 Floréal, this is followed up by a mass landing of troops on the Great Lake beaches of Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio.
- And there is not only a war, but rebellions, riots and revolution runs rampant in the USA, too. For example, on 11 Pluviôse, the Army was needed to crush a pro-communist armed demonstration in Detroit. These incidents only increase in frequency and, as the Army, overstretched and weakened from the many unsuccessful interventions and the heavy losses in the Mexican and Canadian campaign, is needed to crush rebellion, the Canadians have quick successes in the war and, by Fructidor, the Worker's international controls much of the northern Great Plains and the most important areas of Washington and Oregon. Naturally, most of the puppet states very soon went their own way.
- Mecklenburg, anyway having been mostly dependent on Prussia, is coaxed (and somewhat threatened) into holding a referendum with the options of "remaining independent" and "joining Prussia". The referendum of 19 Frimaire is most likely falsified, but Hitler is so sane as to not make it blatantly obvious, as the referendum "only" yields 83 % approval of joining Prussia. This was an Anschluss, but probably based on the will of both sides as many historians will later debate whether a majority of Mecklenburgers really wanted to join Prussia. However, for now, on 20 Frimaire, Prussian troops and police forces march through Mecklenburg and into Rostock and encounter only token resistance.
- India and Japan, in a joint venture, invade the South of China. Japan takes Hongkong and Macau, and then both support separatist warlords in the south.
CXL:
- The FIFA World Championship of this year, held in Spain (despite it's Catholic extremist government), is suspected to be heavily manipulated. After having diverse controversial goals awarded and a clear manipulation in the quarter-finals against the English SR (two clearly regular goals of the English were disallowed due to supposed offensive foul or offside), Spain wins over Poland 2-1 in the final.
- After this year's Olympic Games being sparsely visited, FIFA decides to move the World Championship into the years between the Olympics. Thus, Brazil as the first South American country to host the competition will host it already in CXLII, and the next one will take place in CXLVI.
- On 18 Germinal, during an important campaign event in Sacramento/California, a bomb explodes directly in front of the podests. This kick-starts the civil war as President, Secretary of Foreign Affairs, of Defense, and of the Interior, and most candidates for POTUS are killed. There were no presidential succession rules at the time, and Canada was invading. And the Vice President William Borah, who became Acting President, was not born to lead (but to balance Stimson's ticket a bit). He was an isolationist. He hastily made peace with Canada and the Worker's International, who surprisingly leniently demanded Montana, the Dakotas, Minnesota and Wisconsin to be ceded directly and an independent Cascadia. National pride of the USA was severely damaged.
- Borah, from 18 Germinal onwards tried the army on the by now diverse rebel forces (everything from Syndicalists over Mormons and black supremacists to Californian separatists was present), but the army had lost so many men and resources by now that they just couldn't really fight against the rebels. The Army and National Guard were called up, and conscription was issued nationwide on 7 Messidor, but even that did not help. Due to widespread joblessness (28,4 % of Americans were jobless as of 10 Messidor, due to the great depression), starvation after the harsh winter, and general economic insecurity, desertions increased. Nevertheless, the Army, Police and National Guard fought to the last drop of blood and the last cartridge of ammo.
- When Prussia marched into the Free and Hanseatic City of Lübeck on 30 Pluviôse, Hannover and the International Zone requested protection from the UWR on 2 and 5 Ventôse, respectively. And the UWR provides not only protection, but tells the citizens that "they will reunite Germany under the Red Banner". And they flock to that call, not because they want to be communist that desperately, but because they all want to reunite Germany. And not under Prussia's heel. Also, the UWR is not an unfree, genocidal dictatorship like OTL USSR. No, every Worker's Republic is more or less independent (as long as it stays basically communist) and can practice it's traditions, culture and rites as it wishes.
- The territory east of Yunnan falls to the Japanese-Indian-Southeast Asian onslaught, while Japan replaces the French administrators with their own (or loyal local) ones and changes a border in Southeast Asia. The Empire of Vietnam-Lao and the Khmer Empire are proclaimed.
CXLI:
- Yunnan falls to the Indian and Tibetan, mountain-experienced, troops on 11 Floréal and is incorporated into the new Empire of Greater Yunnan, a joint Japano-Indian puppet.
- Prussia provokes it's worst crisis to date when it, between 10 Ventôse and 19 Messidor, has to force, against huge international protest, the United Baltic Duchies to give more and more autonomy rights to the German majority in East Prussia by amassing more and more troops on the border. Then, on 2 Thermidor and without any warning, they invaded the United Baltic Duchies. The weak army tried to fight, but potential allies were occupied otherwise and so, by 21 Fructidor, East Prussia could be proclaimed reunited with Prussia.
- The first state to officially declare independence, and immediately requesting Canada's support, was New England on 8 Brumaire consisting of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, Massachussets, Rhode Island, and claiming the entirety of New York. It was quickly followed by Texas (18 Brumaire) and the Union of American Fordist Syndicates (UAFS) on 2 Frimaire. Texas was supported by Mexico in return for a small cession of territory, while the UAFS attracted masses of (unemployed) workers and desertees from the army and thus could quickly conquer a lot of it's territory, despite the USA fighting to the bitter end. Mexico also supported the Californian separatists, as did Mormon separatists who quickly managed to gain control of much of Utah.
- By Fructidor, the USA has de facto retreated from much of the east as Neo-Confederates led by a certain Huey P. Long, Syndicalists in the Northeast led by Ford, and a Kentucky-Tennessee that declared "armed neutrality and secession from the United States" on 15 Floréal, have taken large areas. Despite that, there still is civil war as, for example, Cajun/Louisianan separatists, radical communist black supremacists, and white supremacists of Huey P. Long duke it out.
- The Republic of Greater Tuva suffers a coup by communist factions of the Army and Worker's Party, as these elements think they "need to protect themselves against aggressin from the north and the south".
CXLII:
- In Portugal, until now democratic and quite normal, a coup by Catholic extremists (who are combined with extreme Portuguese nationalism and anti-Hispanism) takes place on 13 Pluviôse after the democratic government refused to pass even more extensive rights for the Catholic church. They say they are better than the "pseudo-Catholics" in Madrid and will constantly try to out-perform them on morale and Catholicism.
- This year's FIFA World Championship takes place in Prussia, again in a simple knock-out system with 16 teams. More teams from South America enter this time, but Spain again narrowly takes the Championship, only due to a goal in injury time against Argentina in the final making it 1-0. This was in the replay, which was necessary due to the first final match ending 1-1 after extra time.
- The US Army valiantly continues to fight and, despite achieving some smaller victoies due to rebels infighting, they are on the short end of the stick in most parts. Especially as Californian nationalist separatists rebel in many cities of California on 15 Floréal and, with Japanese and, ironically, also Canadian United Syndicate support, gave the US a run for their money.
- The US Navy was the only part of the armed forces still mostly loyal, and it wa used to keep control over America's Caribbean holdings. And in that endeavour, it was msotly successful.
- Britain lets Nigeria become a dominion and, to bail out it's enormous state debts, sells the Gold Coast and Sierra Leone to the highest bidder, which turns out to be the French Empire. Nigeria immediately becomes a French puppet state, while Ghaná and Nouveau Louisiane, as the country is now called, is incorporated into the French empire.
- Austria-Hungary becomes more and more instable as the economic crashes are affecting it and the reparations become more and more unbearable. The CSVP under it's leader Engelbert Dollfuß becomes the strongest party in the elections of 19 Prairial, but all other parties save for the ÖUAP (Österreichisch-Ungarische Arbeiterpartei) lump together in a Grand Coalition to hinder the CSVP from taking power. However, CSVP and ÖUAP have the power to block every law. And they did so, which led to dissolution of the Reichsversammlung on 28 Messidor.
- The President of the Republic, Otto Alois Graf Huyn, started to govern quasi-alone from then onwards thanks to his extensive rights in a "crisis" with Article 71 of the constitution.
- When on 5 Vendémiaire Mormon separatists revolted and took control of much of Utah, the US Navy, together with loyal elements of the Army and Air Force (which were few and far between) fled in parts to Cuba and in parts to Hawaii. At first, both were united, but very soon, rifts started to appear, for example over the question whether to go in for an alliance with Japan or whether Japan commited treason by supporting Californian separatists.
- This was the de facto end of the American Civil War. A real treaty was never signed, however. Although the new state forces (among them Sequoyah as an Indian state and an independent Navajo Nation) came together on 19 Pluviôse to discuss relations and borders, debates still raged on as of Fructidor. The only clear borders were those of the UAFS, but even there, some territory in the south was disputed by other powers.
- The Mormon separatists, meanwhile, had their state of Deseret recognised by many major powers, among them the UWR and BSR, and started to build it's theocratic Mormon-only empire and, as one of the first, to support Mormon separatists in former Idaho.
CXLIV:
- Japan takes full control of Hainan, and the Uyghur state is fully established in it's current extent as the Republic of China, Chiang Kai-Shek being killed, surrenders to concentrate on it's core areas.
- In the Pecs Republic, Chancellor Karl Langhammer is nearly powerless as he is always dependent on the agreement of either a parliament (which can't happen as CSVP and ÖUAP block each and every law) or of Graf Huyn. Karl Langhammer and Graf Huyn try deflation politics by saving ever more money on the part of the state. But this is even more disastrous for the economy, and in the election of 30 Nivôse, especially the CSVP gains massively.
- On 8 Germinal, Karl Langhammer is deposed and is replaced by Otto Freiherr Ellison von Nidlef, who forms a "Cabinet of Barons", but this lasted only to 22 Messidor. He is followed by Thomas Edler von Lerch, but this attempt to form a "government of unity" failed on 13 Fructidor.
- On Jour de la Recompense, Engelbert Dollfuß, Oberster Prälat of the CSVP, was made Chancellor of the Reich. This would mean the beginning of the end...
- Spain, in this year, paints Portugal's Minister of Morale as a closet communist, and even worse, claims that he is a homosexual. The Portuguese government has to investigate these claims, despite them being totally bogus (except for a brief membership in the PTP in An CXX-CXXII), and Joao Rodrigues Ronaldo has to resign. The government is becoming instable once again.
CXLV:
- On 27 Vendémiaire, the parliament building (Reichsversammlung) in Vienna went up in flames and was nearly completely destroyed. (Un)Fortunately, only a few lower secretaries were in the building and the fire cost only 3 lives. The only one to be arrested on-site was a certain Mariusz Lewandowski of Silesia, however, a massive crackdown on Jews and "godless communists" followed.
- Dollfuß had already on 2 Vendémiaire called for elections, and with the Reichsversammlungsbrand, he had a good excuse for cracking down and banning the ÖUAP.
- The last semi-free elections took place on 14 Brumaire, and even the banned ÖUAP got 18,4 %. However, Dollfuß and Holzweber did not allow the ÖUAP to take it's seats, then lured the centrist PdÖW into being a puppet of the CSVP, and passed the Enabling Act which ends up transferring power to the government and away from parliament.
- Argentina fell to a Catholic extremist "military" coup, and allies itself with Colombia which fell to such a coup months earlier.
- In Florida, a subsidiary to the Spanish Partido del Dio wins the first free election of the state, also thanks to the big amount of Spanish support in the independence war, and immediately starts to reform the state according to the Spanish theocratic-fascist model. Florida gets Spanish navy and army troops for "protection" and becomes nothing more than a Spanish puppet.
CXLVI:
- Spain, after having held the Estado Novo of Portugal to ransom for the last four years (supposed alliance and then provoking several crises, e.g. forcing the Minister of Morale to be exchanged) and after desperate wishes of the populace of La Conexión, they invade Portugal on 28 Brumaire. However, A Adesao was feared in Portugal just as much as La Conexión was wanted in Spain and thus, a lot of resistance was encountered by the Catholic Army, as the Spanish Army is called. Only on 9 Messidor could the last resistance be crushed and Spain was, for the first time since 1640, united with Portugal.
- Saxony and Silesia declare themselves neutral and independent. Both Hitler and Dollfuß seemed to respect it for now...
- This year's World Cup was the first to be hosted in South America, and Argentina won against the UWR in the final, celebrating a propaganda victory against the "godless communists".
- Ecuador "falls to a coup with Colombian support", however, in reality, there was no coup but on 8 Ventôse Colombia had really invaded Ecuador. When Venezuela's capital of Caracas was successfully taken on 27 Thermidor, the United Holy Republics of Gran Colombia were declared.
- In the former United States of America, everybody supports each other's separatists and rebels and so, the civil war is, although now not high-intensity, going on. Most prominently, Mormon extremist separatists cause major problems in southern Idaho, and extreme black supremacists supported by the UAFS are reponsible for terrorism and revolts in the New Confederate States.
- France does a major reorganisation of it's colonies, carving French Coastal Africa out of French West Africa, in which low-key revolts by Africans start this year. Sierra Leone and Ghana are incorporated into FCA, while French West and Central Africa are lumped together.
- Charismatic young Zinedine Mohamed Benzema, the first non-French candidate, surprisingly was chosen as the leader of the National Worker's Council and proclaimed himself Minister of Foreign Affairs. After demands for more autonomy and/or independence creep up in parts of France and in Northern Italy, several nw Worker's Republics are instituted by agreement of the National Worker's Council.
- Utah is now fully formed into a Mormon theocracy and allies itself with Jacksonville, Madrid, Vienna, Constantinople and, newly, Teheran as the Shah is deposed by Shi'a extremists in a brief, but bloody, civil war.
- Later in the year, the Orthodox Extremist Holy Patriarchal Party (HPP) win the election and Russia starts to become an ally of Madrid, Vienna et al.
- Dollfuß and Holzweber, together with other government members in Vienna, marched their troops into demilitarised Czechia and officially announced the existance of the Luftstreitkraft, the Austro-Hungarian Air Force which was against the treaties, but except for protesting, the powers did not do much about this blatant violation of the Treaties of Castel Gandolfo.
CXLVIII:
- Byzantines causes a crisis in which it claims that the puppet states of Cyberrhaeot and Pontus "mistreat Orthodox citizens" and demands more rights for them on 3 Vendémiaire, at the threat of invasion. When their parliaments don't de facto disempower themselves in 7 days, the Byzantines invade on 10 Vendémiaire and encounter only token resistance against incorporation.
- In Brumaire, the CSVP extremist government of Austria-Hungary demands "better treatment of the German minority and more autonomy" from the government of Romania. Romania gets an ultimatum on 8 Nivôse that, if they don't surrender, troops will enter the country. This happens, and on 17 Nivôse, the Protectorate of Wallachia is established.
- Armenia experiences a coup by Orthodox Extremist, pro-Byzantine factions supported, in part, by the populace. It has to cede some eastern areas to Azerbaijan, but otherwise becomes a Byzantine puppet state under Hovhannes Kargasyan. A similar Orthodox Extremist coup happens in the Crimean Tatar Republic.
- Austria-Hungary, to many people's surprise and shock, signs a non-aggression pact on 4 Ventôse, after lengthy negotiations, with the United Worker's Republics, the country which Engelbert Dollfuß has ostensibly eyed as Lebensraum for "the Christian Empire". The same happens with the United Soviet Worker's Republics of Leon Trotsky. It is colloqially called the Benzema-Holzweber agreement, and in it, secretly, influence spheres are carved out for the two partners.
- On 12 Ventôse, Austria-Hungary's government forges an incident, namely an attack on a railway station in Kischinau (Kishinev), and demand Ukraine to apologise and to fulfill some infulfillable demands. However, Prussia, the British Empire, Denmark (having become a not-so-neutral and relatively great power during the years since it's brief intervention in World War I) and the BSR have secretly given Ukraine guarantees for it's sovereignty...
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The last date is March 4, 1940. And here is a calendar converter, just use "Französischer Revolutionskalender" to convert a date from the French Revolutionary Calendar. The site is German, but... it should be self-explanatory.
So, do the United Worker's Republics destroy cultures?
No, not that bad. The UWR try to respect other cultures, although most national symbols are communist-icised to some extent. A statue of, for example, a German national hero will probably have a Marx monument added, but not be toppled. Of course, internationalism is preached by the leaders and nationalism is not welcome, but nevertheless, cultures (as long as they are not politicised) are not destroyed.
Also, every Worker's Republic is domestically independent and so, different varieties also of communism can exist. For example, while the Lombardian WR is led by Amadeo Bordiga and thus can appear quite dictatorial to us, the French WR is more syndicalist. The Dutch WR, contrary to both, unites it's relatively staunch protestant Christianity (yes, the UWR leaders are quite tolerant about apolitical religion) with Communism, and the Basque or Catalan WRs are quite normally communist (but democratic!), but have an uniquely Basque/Catalan culture.
Only defense and the most elementary things (currency, foreign policy,...) are done from Revolution, as Paris has been renamed. For these purposes, all worker's Republics need to send a poroportional number of delegates to the NWC, the National Worker's Council.
But the vast majority of decisions that affect your personal life are made at maximum in e.g. Cologne, Milan, or Zurich, wherever the seat of your Worker's Republic is. It could even be that the decision is made even more locally...
I see. What's Paris new name? And what are some other cities that been rename?
Paris = Revolution
Lille = Pougetville
Bremen = Liebknechthaven
Trier = Karl-Marx-Stadt
Köln = Bebelskirchen
Genf = Leninville.
Algiers = Benzema
Naples = Bordigai
Naturally, many other cities have also been renamed, the most notable cities not to be renamed are Marseille and Bordeaux.
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Wrong British King fleeing?
A few years back, you had George VI fleeing to India, then Africa. Didn't you mean George V? His son didn't become king until the next decade. And even if you butterfly an early death for the senior George, there's still Edward
A few years back, you had George VI fleeing to India, then Africa. Didn't you mean George V? His son didn't become king until the next decade. And even if you butterfly an early death for the senior George, there's still Edward