TL-191: After the End
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This is what I previously wrote about the Kennedy family in TTL, slightly edited.
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In spite of the ambitions of Joseph Kennedy Sr., none of his descendants had significant success in local Massachusetts politics, although several members of the Kennedy family did make into the state legislature during the late 20th Century. Politics in Massachusetts, well into the 1980s, was dominated by the powerful Socialist Party machine based in Boston. The Kennedys, a family of Democratic Party loyalists, did not prosper politically in this climate, or later in the 1980s, when a revitalized Republican Party successfully challenged the Boston Machine.
By 2024, the Kennedy family still mostly lives in Massachusetts, and can be found working in several prominent local companies. Several members of the family also found a place in academia, with one member of the family currently on the faculty of Harvard. However, no members of the current generation of Kennedys have an interest in a political career.
Does Joseph Kennedy and the older son Joe Kennedy Jr have sympathies with Featherston's policies, much like how they supported Nazi policy of our timeline?
I can't imaginate any Northerner having any sympathy towards Freedomites speciality after beginning of Operation Blackbeard. That would had made you even more effectively social and political pariah than being even small hint sympathy towards nazism.
There was no sympathy from anyone in the Kennedy family for Featherston and the Freedom Party.
What would you the United States of America reputation in the world is right now? It wasn’t involved in any controversial Cold Wars, Wars on Drugs, Crime, and Terrorism. It’s a lot less imperialistic, and more willing to work internationally with other states. It doesn’t have any rivals that want to fight it, and seems isolationist to an extent.
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In the TL-191 series, it’s alluded to that Benito Mussolini was a failed Italian politician who briefly came to prominence after the end of the First Great War.
Mussolini, following the failure of his political career, supported himself as a journalist and newspaper editor, though his career was undermined as he gradually embraced political views that were more and more unhinged. He died in in 1944 in obscurity.
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The analogue in TTL to Pablo Picasso, of the same name, was born on a slightly different date compared to our world. His life and artistic career were broadly similar to OTL prior to the First Great War. As in our world, Picasso played important roles in the emergence of artistic movements and forms such as Cubism, though there small differences in his life, his acquaintances, and his artistic works from OTL.
Picasso’s life was upended with the end of the First Great War, with the military defeat of France and the accompanying postwar social and economic chaos. In 1918, Picasso left Paris for Spain.
In 1921, following the inauguration of Upton Sinclair as the first President of the United States from the Socialist Party, Picasso left Spain for New York City, with the expectation that the Sinclair administration was usher in a utopian socialist society, which he was quickly disabused of. The paintings of Picasso’s New York Period, which lasted from 1921 to 1924, did reflect a fascination with the urban landscape and people of New York City. The most famous of Picasso’s New York Period paintings proved to be The Mad Scientist, which was completed in 1924 before he left the United States.
In 1926, after years of traveling through Central America and South America, Picasso arrived in the Empire of Brazil, where he settled in Rio de Janeiro. Picasso quickly gravitated towards the enclave of Nouveau Monde, a neighborhood in the city where large numbers of French and Belgian immigrants had moved to since the end of the First Great War. Picasso’s First Nouveau Monde Period lasted from 1926 to 1944. During this time, Picasso completed a large volume of paintings and sculptures, in a range of styles that mostly developed from his earlier Modernist periods. Some of his works during this period were inspired by Socialist political thought, and some of his works were more abstract. In a continuation from his New York Period, some of his works imagined the cityscape of Rio de Janeiro as a powerful force in its own right. Some of his works were utopian in nature, and imagined a shared socialist future.
Picasso did not become involved in political activity in Rio de Janeiro, though he opposed the Nationalists during the Spanish Civil War, and supported French and Spanish artists who arrived in the city as emigres during the 1930s.
Picasso was plunged into despair in 1944 with the destruction of Paris in the German superbomb attack in 1944. Picasso, living as a recluse in Rio de Janeiro, did not produce any artistic works at all until 1954. Picasso’s Second Nouveau Monde Period lasted from 1954 to his death in 1976. In sharp contrast with his First Nouveau Monde Period, the paintings and sculptures that Picasso produced during this time were nightmarish in form, a response to the stark horrors of the nuclear devastation that had ended the Second Great War. Some of his most nightmarish works that he produced during the Second Nouveau Monde Period were analogous in style to the works of H.R. Giger from our world.
In spite of his renewed artistic output beginning in 1954, Picasso remained reclusive. He never returned to either Spain or France during his lifetime.
By 2024, there are museums in the Empire of Brazil, Spain, France, and the United States that house most of the art that was produced by Picasso throughout his life.
If Purr ~ icasso were a cat, do you think he'd be an even more honoured figure in the art world? [Perhaps, instead of "Guernica," he made a mural about the superbombing of Paris in this AU?]
I'd also be interested to read a biography of Admiral Okada Harouka, and of Marshall Ferdinand Foch, the French Supreme Commander during the First Great Chicken...oops, sorry, First Great War!
By 2024, it depends on the nation in question. For instance, Korea, Vietnam, Ireland, and South Sudan are among the nations in the world that are the most staunchly pro-US. Some nations, such as Colombia, Paraguay, Kenya, Morocco, and Bengal, are not formal US military allies but have histories of cordial diplomatic relations with the United States.
Bharat has an unfriendly military rivalry with the United States, stemming in part from a decades-long US alliance with China. Relations between Bharat and the United States worsened in the early 2010s after the Somali Republic joined the CDS and United States began to regularly deploy its navy into the Indian Ocean. The Sudanese War in the early 2010s also contributed to a worsening of diplomatic relations between Bharat and the United States, as the Bharati government became apprehensive at the US deployed a substantial military force in a region where Bharat had started to exercise political influence through the Chennai Pact.
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By 2024, many nations around the world are also wary of the United States. A consensus in most nations is that the USA is not a nation to antagonize, whatever the disagreement happens to be. This fear of the United States differs depending on the nation in question, but is a legacy of the military outcomes of the Second Great War, the Fourth Pacific War, and the Sudanese War.
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Dr. Aubrey Gavalas was the first woman to be accepted into the US space program for the purpose of off-planet expeditions in 1971. She first traveled to Outer Space as part of the Eagle II Expedition in 1977, which landed on the Moon, making Gavalas the first woman in history to walk on that celestial object. Gavalas travelled on several other successful US lunar expeditions, before her retirement in 2001.
Deadpool 3 trailer got me thinking about what you said about the X-Men. I think an analogue could still exist as an explicitly socialist parable about internationalism and solidarity triumphing over militant nationalism
Was Bangelsh still part of Pakistan by the Long Crisis? If not, when did it gain independence from Pakistan?
Most of the far left will probably just involve stories of the socialist triumph over Jake Featherston analogues. The closed thing to internationalism and solidarity are the joint crushing of the Apartheid, the Japanese empire, and the Sudanese. Militant nationalism if it’s called that in-verse will just be a word you used to describe far-right dictatorships.
Well that's what was brought up regarding a question about X-Men a few pages ago, namely that nationalism was so ingrained a comic about the solidarity of a transnational mutant ethnic group wouldn't be made because national governments would just draft them into the military and treat them as field artillery.