The City of Water:A Venetian TL (Discontinued: See V2 in Industrial Progress: A Story Of Venetian..)

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A system of star forts guarding the Alpine passes should not be an unbearable burden for Venice

The Venetian Republic is certainly able to pay for the forts in a strict sense, the caveat is that it is only willing to pay so much for military defense. Similarly with Siena, it may have the money but are its citizens willing to contribute? Are its citizens willing to focus the budget on the star fort at the cost of other budget items? This is in contrast to naval forces that have a direct return in piracy reduction, income from their own piracy, and the occasional conquests taken by the admiralty or individual captains.

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The Venetian Republic is certainly able to pay for the forts in a strict sense, the caveat is that it is only willing to pay so much for military defense. Similarly with Siena, it may have the money but are its citizens willing to contribute? Are its citizens willing to focus the budget on the star fort at the cost of other budget items? This is in contrast to naval forces that have a direct return in piracy reduction, income from their own piracy, and the occasional conquests taken by the admiralty or individual captains.

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Dunno, given all the wars in recent memory and the simple fact that state-run fortifications help state authority (big fortifications are great bastions for loyalists and are good for intimidating dissidents...) should be enough to accrue interest in the project.
 
Dunno, given all the wars in recent memory and the simple fact that state-run fortifications help state authority (big fortifications are great bastions for loyalists and are good for intimidating dissidents...) should be enough to accrue interest in the project.

Absolutely, I did take the comment too far. For Venice there isn't disagreement about them. But a standing army as well? Maybe not.
 
Highlights from the visiting Venetian Naval Exhibit in Palermo.


Padua Trionfadór (Triumphant Padua)

A reclaimed Venetian galley from Dogaressa Febe’s war. At the forefront of Mediterranean warfare, the Padua Trionfadór is one of many mass-produced galleys the Venetian Arsenalé from Dogaressa Febe’s war. Well suited for amphibious actions, bursts of speed, and withstanding damage the galley is the backbone of any Mediterranean fleet. Crowded and lacking crew housing galleys were not meant for long journeys and often had to make camp on land during the night. The modular construction and standardized parts allowed the Venetian fleets to be easily manufactured and maintained. In practice standardized modular construction meant that the Venetian navy was only limited by the number of experienced captains and unskilled rowers it can recruit.


Failołèłade Seréna (Siren’s Lullaby)

A relic Enxabeque hailing from Dogaressa Febe’s war. It was among the first light sailing ships built with a slim hull and speed in mind. Designed for sustained high speeds and endurance the Enxabeque played a crucial role in Dogaressa Febe’s war. While not sturdy enough for fleet actions the Enxabeque’s high speed and endurance made it crucial for recon, piracy, counter-piracy, and peacetime trading. Repaired and rebuilt throughout the ages only two nails from the original construction survives to this day. Converted to a pleasure craft the ship was eventually donated to the state in the will of Lorenzo di Chioggia.


Él Calsadór (The Shoehorn)

The standardized firearm for the Venetian Navy from Dogaressa Febe’s war named after its resemblance to a shoehorn. Manufactured by an alliance of trade houses led by the House Mocenigo there was considerable controversy regarding graft for the Republic’s military procurement process. Nonetheless the standardized firearm was effective at expanding the number of eligible marines for the Venetian Navy due to the short training time required. It also gave an edge to the Venetian Republic as it increased the combat abilities of non-combatants such as rowers aboard ships.


Él Capricorno dé Còrno (The Capicorn’s Horn)

Named after one of the four cardinal signs or perhaps the antediluvian (pre-biblical) Babylonian water-goat for the two “horns” that protrude in front of the crossbow. The Capricorno dé Còrno was the sidearm of choice in Dogaressa Febe’s war as it contained a special compartment that allowed the owner to store the crossbow strings in a watertight wax compartment and a cover mount that kept the rain out. While unwieldy it did allow Venetian sailors to fire in all conditions even when wet gunpowder negated firearms. Expensive, deadly, and easy to use the Capricorno dé Còrno saw extensive use until the development of waterproof cartridge ammunition.


Moschéto dé Scanełà(Grooved/rifled musket)

The trademark weapon of the Cavaliere dell'Ordine Militante dé San Giorgio (Knight Militant Order of Saint George) known to those on the receiving side as a “Scanełà”. Adapted from hunting rifles for the rural and the rich the Scanełà is designed with a tighter fitting grooved barrel that offers greater accuracy at the high risk of fouling from gunpowder residues. Due to the risk of fouling the Scanełà is ill suited for repeated volleys required on the battlefield but excellent for raiding and short fights.


Gunpowder storage

An issue of paramount importance for the Venetian Navy galleys and ships often had special compartments built for the storage of gunpowder. Wet gunpowder while obviously unable to ignite is also damaged by water as the powder would be caked together making a solid that burned slowly instead of loose powder that exploded as one. Such containers were water-tight and darkened to preserve gunpowder and to ensure availability. During battle cabin boys are used to ferry gunpowder from below the decks. However even with the best of attempts gunpowder can still decay or get wet and ships are often stocked with a secondary compliment of crossbows for good measure.


Cavałiér dell'Fàsa Militante dé Sant Xòrxi (Knight Militant Order of Saint George)

Originally drafted from the Republic’s worst rapists and murders aka. pirates the Order of Saint George has come a long way since its deplorable past. Named after the nebulous if vague reputation of George the Warrior Saint who may have slain a dragon, or perhaps he tamed it-no it was a whole horde of dragons, or maybe it was a Sea Serpent? Definitively not! It stands to reason that since he died against the Romans then it must of have been an entire legion…

Regardless of the perception of Saint George at the time the order was commissioned as the Republic’s first amphibious regiment during Dogaressa Febe’s war. Given state sanction and training the pirates engaged in organized pillage and assassination. Mounted, mobile, and amphibious the Order of Saint George was used to great effect against enemy peasants and supplies during Dogaressa Febe’s war. The transition of the force into its modern special forces role took place during….


Sant Xòrxi Croxóe (Saint George’s Cross)

Originally the flag of the Republic of Genoa the flag has been co-opted by the Knight Militant Order of Saint George as its insignia. Today, it is a mark of distinction among the Venetian military while aboard it is known as the blood cross, the red cross, and a mark of doom for those unfortunate enough to see it firsthand.


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On a side note for those of you able to read Italian, I've been replacing my broken Italian with broken Venetian instead. Hurray!
 
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In most People touch on the Fact that Venetians saw themselves continuation of the Roman Republic... this why sometime has Venice paint itself as SPQV*.

*the Senate and People of Venice
 
In most People touch on the Fact that Venetians saw themselves continuation of the Roman Republic... this why sometime has Venice paint itself as SPQV*.

*the Senate and People of Venice

True, but this TL saw the extinction of the old Patricians and their associated cultural influence. I've alluded in the TL to the lesser esteem of the Romans in the eyes of this TL's Venetians. For the most part the influx of Byzantine scholars that came after the fall of the empire didn't for the empire still exists and it was the Venetians that took Constantinople; hardly an incentive to bring their Roman heritage to Venice. There is still veneration of the ancients, but nowhere near as all-encompassing as OTL.
 
Interesting weapons and ships!

Irene, I have a question: what is the relationship between the Republic and the mountain communities that speak Germanic languages (Cimbri, mostly loving in the Asiago plateau, but also in some other areas) and those speaking Ladino (in the Cadore mountains and elsewhere)?
In otl they received significant degrees of autonomy (look up the Federations dei Comuni, it was a sort of micro-Switzerland, very interesting imho) and were always very loyal to Venice, playing a vital role in the defence of its Alpine borders.

For those who are wondering about this to pronounce Venetian words, I will say that it is more or less like in Italian, with the barred l being a very peculiar, almost muted sound, and the x pronounced as a sz, like in rose.
 
Very interesting museum... For example, Palermo is in Sicily. And I doubt that countries would host foreign Naval exhibits...
 
Interesting weapons and ships!

Irene, I have a question: what is the relationship between the Republic and the mountain communities that speak Germanic languages (Cimbri, mostly loving in the Asiago plateau, but also in some other areas) and those speaking Ladino (in the Cadore mountains and elsewhere)?
In otl they received significant degrees of autonomy (look up the Federations dei Comuni, it was a sort of micro-Switzerland, very interesting imho) and were always very loyal to Venice, playing a vital role in the defence of its Alpine borders.

For those who are wondering about this to pronounce Venetian words, I will say that it is more or less like in Italian, with the barred l being a very peculiar, almost muted sound, and the x pronounced as a sz, like in rose.

The Venetian Republic is in practice a federation despite its name. Most of the Eastern Alpine communities joined without too much coercion and have a great deal of autonomy like most of Old Terra Firma. For those Alpine communities within Western Terra Firma the Compact of Bergamo exchanged autonomy for food, military security, and prosperity. The ones that resisted were either too depleted by Milan's Wars or too small to resist Venetian influence. Generally the only exceptions within Western Terra Firma are a few communes that negotiated to join Venice before the Compact of Bergamo.

Militarily only Western Terra Firma and Stato da Màr are integrated to the federal system and the communities of the Old Terra Firma are responsible for their own defense and providing a draft at times of war. While a Venetian intervention is possible in Old Terra Firma, there hasn't been a need for it much to the relief of the Republic.

Politically it is a republic in the sense that Patricians are elected, equal in voting power, and allocated according to wealth and manpower but the selection of each Patrician is based on local governments whether they are a aristocracy, oligarchy, and in the rare cases a full democracy. The locals are also allowed to choose their own method of enfranchisement within the Republic or in many cases it has been chosen for them before they joined the Republic. While there will always be an unpopular lord or oligarchy somewhere, the freedom of movement within the Republic acts as an unintentional safety valve for political dissatisfaction through migration. With the exception of Venetian communities outside of Venice and Venice itself the Republic does not enfranchise women; something which is very unlikely to change as the well-educated, wealthy, and metropolitan women within Venice view themselves as distinct and better than their counterparts in the Republic while the rest of the Republic is adamantly opposed. Also in terms of representation manpower only counts for those that serve the Republic in some manner (governance, military, infrastructure, and so on...), in a way this encourages local powers to encourage federal participation, and it is the only way the poor are involved in governance.

Economically the Republic is well integrated on all levels and local authorities are limited in their economic authority, a side effect of which is that noble titles are just that; noble titles without power. As a consequence of the lack of local economic authority nobles within the Republic must be involved in business to some degree despite their reservations, that or they are so rich that they can afford to neglect their estates. Culturally each community practices and decides upon its own language, education, culture, and festivals. Venetian is a common secondary language within the Republic being the language of commerce, government, literature, and law.

One interesting aspect is the difference in rural political representation between trading regions and self-sufficient regions. Since representation is based upon wealth and manpower territories that tend to trade inter-regionally and hence pay more tariffs-especially if the trade was international tend to be represented more within the Venetian Senate.
 
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Interesting survey of Venetian weapons - and I am resigned to the prevalence of Venetian words TTL...

As expected, Savonarola flopped - but the Papacy is not yet safe... Likely Naples should win, but Venice can still be the kingmaker in this conflict...
 
1505

Another missive arrives in Bruges for Pope Leo X from cardinals within the Holy Roman Empire reminding him of the need to address the growing "reformists" of the empire. Claiming to preach the true words of the bible the brethren of Grau Enolf have espoused utter disregard for centuries of esteemed rituals and traditions that are the bedrock of stability. Adding to the woes are misguided and opportunistic lords naïve enough to believe their lies, greedy enough to seize church property, or those that simply wishes to oppose their emperor's reforms. Good Catholics are being persecuted, forced to convert, expelled, or murdered. Funds for widows, the lame, and the blind, orphanages, hospitals, and the traditional church charities are being seized under the so-called authority of the "Grey Cross" of Enolf. But try as he might Leo cannot convince his Burgundian backers to fund an intervention, it seems that political expediency against a rival is more important than Burgundian faith. Of course thoughts of his own contradiction in receiving Burgundian backing for the papacy are lost on Leo.[1]

The first Jewish settlers arrive in the Cape of Storms mixed with Moriscos to a small but stable community in the Cape. The new settler bring with them much needed supplies such as nails, tools, clothing, and trade goods. Unlike the old inhabitants the new settlers make little attempt at concealing their faith. Numbering at over a hundred the Cape is slowly becoming self-sustaining-if it had any female residents.[2]

Venetian attempts at establishing a mutual front with the Kingdom of Hungary against the Hapsburgs fails with Matthias Hunyadi refusing to entertain further audiences with Venetian diplomats. It seems that Matthias is unimpressed by Venetian martial powers noting the defensive nature of the Venetian army and quite suspicious of Venetian designs upon the Dalmatian coast. On another note, having had time to restore state finances, Matthias has overseen the reform of the Black Army to a model based on armored infantry backed by musket infantry. Known simply as "Négyzetek" (literally "Squares") the new infantry model is based upon mobile four units of musketeers and skirmishers arranged into the corners of a square around a pikemen core. When threatened with assault or simply reloading the musketeers and skirmishers can retreat to the shelter of the pike square before firing again negating the weakness of musketeers and skirmishers to direct assault while offering offensive supporting to pikemen. Untested, there is nonetheless great expectations for a potential method to combining the flexibility and offensive power of muskets with the staying power of pikemen.[3]

A frantic atmosphere descends upon Venice as rumors of the coming war is growing amidst a lack of official information. Calls for recruits are issued by the admiralty, shipwrights, and captains given letters of commissions. A limited draft is made for levees, trade ships are earmarked for commissions, and a draft is issued to reserve Combat Engineers. The Arsenales of Negroponte and Constantinople are stripped down to skeleton staffs in anticipation for the coming conflict. Out of the public eye the first mobile floating ship yard is taken apart to be assembled later at its destination. Travelling alongside the barrages are trade ships to house the accompanying carpenters, shipwright, and labourers required to run an Arsenale. Long a symbol of Venetian dominance over the seas, flags bearing the image of St Mark's Lion flying over the seas raised in anticipation for… whatever comes next.

News of Girolamo Savonarola's death sends the citizens of Florence reeling and Da Vinci himself is said to have knelt over in tears. While the bulk of the army escaped as the Papal forces neglected to give chase the death of the Theocracy's spiritual messiah strikes grief into the hearts of its citizens. A month of mourning is declared while the day of Girolamo's demise is known as the "Day of Lamination". At the end of the month Da Vinci emerges from seclusion; noticeably skinner with a new-found grey mane he addresses the crowd in front of Florence about the need to fight on and to spread the prophet's words…

A messenger arrives at the Mocenigo estates in Treviso bearing an envelope with the seal of the Foix family.






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[1]IOTL the church was the social support institution for those that cannot rely upon their family. A side effect of which is the plight of those in society that live at the margins.
[2]Early colonialists are usually men for various biological, cultural, and economic reasons I will get into later.
[3]IOTL the Spanish were the first to effectively implement Tercio tactics during the Italians Wars IOTL. Generally speaking pikemen were great at defense but suffered from a lack of flexibility, range, and an inability to keep formation on rough terrain especially on the offense. In contrast musketeers suffered from a lack of staying power and a long reload time. Flexible and durable the downside was that Tercios required a lot of discipline and training-in essence a permanent army.


Just for fun. For those that to visit the TL, what profession would you want to be and where?
 
Magyar tercios... I bet they will have a role in TTL's religious wars in Germany (if those happen).

Just for fun. For those that to visit the TL, what profession would you want to be and where?

Where: Venice obviously!

Profession is more difficult. With my personality I probably wouldn't be a good merchant/intriguer...
Poet, humanist and tutor for some Patrician's children. Maybe a sinceure in Padua's university if I get in the good graces of some higher-up?
Actually parts of me would like to be a naval captain, but that would probably be hideously dangerous for our modern standards!
 
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A map of the Mediterranean in 1506

Traditionally a backwards marsh that escaped feudal authority due to a combination of luck and apathy the "Vlaamse" (city-councils) of the Phillip of Burgundy are mercantile with a strong traditional of autonomy. Suppressed by Phillip of Burgundy and his son Charles the "Sombre" the recent appointment of Anna de Brittany has allowed a degree of autonomy to return to the Burgundy. With Duchess Anna's fief of Brittany occupied by France the lady in exile is forced to rely upon the Vlaamse and minor nobles of Burgundy. Diplomatically the inclusion of minor nobles and town councils is scoffed at as a sign of weakness but only time will tell for this arrangement. [1]

Adhemd Khan of the Crimean Khante is dead, his last words were "But there is still so much undone". True to his dying words the Crimean Khante has seen a remarkable transformation during the reign of Adhemd Khan from disparate tribes to a disciplined, innovative, if still disparate tribal federation. The conquest and enslavement of the Rus people has led to profound changes within the Khanate as the nomads found themselves the overlords of sedentary slaves. Despite all of Adhemd Khan's attempts at establishing import-substitution with cities and workshops in the Crimea it turns out that his horde preferred the expertise of and the delegation to slaves in the former Rus lands. With the income of farms, gold-mines, and the limited slave manufacturing capability Adhemd Khan's nascent kingdom is now at risk due to the lack of an unifying bureaucracy and the nomadic tendency to select successors based on military strength. [2]

Unlike its western counterpart feudalism is a relatively recent occurrence in Poland and Lithuania and it is on the rise as greater restrictions are placed upon serfs. Nominally ruled by Alexander II Jagiellonian the king is considered a noble among many and is considerably weaker than his Atlantic counterparts. Buoyed by rising demand for agricultural goods and raw materials from the growing populations of the Atlantic the kingdoms are entering an era of prosperity unrivalled in its history. With the Ottomans demise, the Austrian-Hungarian rivalry, internal disputes within the Kalmar Union, and the divisions among the HRE the only threat to the combined kingdoms is the Crimean Khanate. Enticed by promises of glory and land the nobles of the combined kingdoms many nobles of the Sejim (senate) are agitating for a crusade. [3]

In an anticlimactic end, Peter the 5th of the House of Barcelona is triumphant. In the wake of the countless famines, wars, and non-stop destruction that has embroiled the Nile valley within the last decades Peter had to simply walk in and pick up the pieces. With only a scant population of Coptic converts and Christian settlers remaining the land would cannot in anyway be called a breadbasket. Mildly disappointed, Peter prepares to return to Barcelona and writes for festivities to be arranged in advance. Arriving at the port of Rashid (Rosetta) Peter is greeted with the sight of smoke, weary aragonite soldiers, and the banners of St Mark's Lion fluttering in the distance. Despite the worry of his advisors Peter greets the new challenge with exuberance and a grin.[4]

Based in Corfu, Crete, Cyprus, Genoa, and Sirocco the Venetian navy begins its campaign against the Aragonites. Officially to protect Venetian merchants that are being harassed in the Levant (not that many remained in-spite of the harassment) the Venetian admiralty is no stranger to wars for profit-Why most of Stato da Màr is more or less conquered by Venetian guile and arms. At the center piece of Dogaressa Febe's war is the need to sever the Aragonite empire with the conquest of Arborea. Sparsely populated and less mountainous compared to Sicily the island of Arborea is at the center of the Western Mediterranean and essential to control of the seas. The thought process is simple and in line with existing Venetian naval thought; monopolize trade and leave the costly and difficult task of administration to the locals much like the Eastern Mediterranean.

The first strike is dealt at the port of Rashid, where the Venetian fleet managed to burn the Aragonite fleet trapping Peter V in Egypt. Meanwhile in the east a Venetian expedition lands upon the island of Arbroea discovering to their surprise that lords of the region are sheltering in the straight-walled castles of a bygone age. With Peter cut off in Egypt his brother Gabriel de Barcelona assumes command in Barcelona hoping to strike back. No stranger to pirates and worthy sailors themselves the Aragonites respond with orders for galleys and assembling their own fleet. Numerous small scale skirmishes are fought throughout the Mediterranean while the Aragonite fleet assembles in Barcelona, enough to distract the Venetian navy from wholesale piracy at least. Roughly equal in technology and skill, the war is shaping up to be a contest of organization and scale. For the Venetians do not have the numbers necessary to defend Arborea on land and this will be a war won or lost at sea.[5]




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[1] Much like OTL the people of the Netherlands are independent minded and mercantile, which is a stark contrast to the minor nobles in the region and the more powerful Burgundian lords further south. It’ll be an interesting heterogeneous ruling arrangement.
[2] With the loss of Egypt the Crimea has become Italy’s breadbasket and foodstuffs and raw-materials are relatively more valuable compared to the traditional furs and slaves of the Tartars. A fact that is reflected in the Tartar choice to become slave owners instead of simply selling them.
[3] Much in line with OTL’s commonwealth, the combined kingdoms are sparsely populated-agriculturally focused while its nobles are powerful, wealthy, and militant. Unlike OTL however, there is a lack of a credible Ottoman/Muscovite threat to distract the combined kingdom.
[4]Rashid is IOTL and ITTL the Nile's largest port.
[5]As with OTL the Venetians opted for informal empire over a directly controlled empire due to a combination of manpower limits and cost concerns. IOTL Sardinia was fortified against the Moors from 1469-1700s, ITTL with King Frederick's crusades there was never a need to fortify the island. On the same note the locals are quite fond of Aragonites for it was Frederick who defeated the Moorish pirates and as a direct consequence the Arborean coast has been steadily repopulated.
*Its been a while since I did a map, but not much has changed except Brittany and Anatolia.
 
Presuming the Venetian Fleet was based from... Well, Venice, wouldn't the fleet have been spotted passing through the Tunis-Sicily Gap?

Thinking about it, wouldn't Malta be useful to hold for the Venetians? It gives another spot to take on water and supplies is sailing from Venice.

I guess much of the supplying could be done from Genoa (Liguria,) perhaps?
 
Presuming the Venetian Fleet was based from... Well, Venice, wouldn't the fleet have been spotted passing through the Tunis-Sicily Gap?

Thinking about it, wouldn't Malta be useful to hold for the Venetians? It gives another spot to take on water and supplies is sailing from Venice.

I guess much of the supplying could be done from Genoa (Liguria,) perhaps?

Two things, until the invention of the telegraph navies were more or less blind and most navy warfare was either at arranged locations or port-focused. After-all it was the telegraph IOTL that stopped the Barbary corsairs. There is also the convenient natural harbour of Genoa, complete with its only shipbuilding industry much to the annoyance of the Venetian Arsenale.

Malta might be useful to use against Sicily and Tunis but Arborea is dead center in the Aragonite empire. Malta is also a desolate island that requires power-projection to keep and operate, whereas Arborea has ports to project power from straight into the heart of Aragon. The Venetian navy in Arborea can't consistently intercept ships, but it doesn't need to if it has the basing to raid the ports and coastal villages Aragonites live in.
 
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