Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

Aichi72

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Found this map on Wikipedia. Apparently a map of a quintuple monarchy proposed by Emperor Karl on October 16, 1918 ("Imperial Manifesto of 16 October 1918"). Does anyone know anything more about this proposal? I've never heard of it before and the Wikipedia article cites a paper that I can't access.
 
DaniCBP

DaniCBP

Mr Atoz said:
Looks like the Palestinians were going to get screwed again. Instead of getting their own state, they would have become a second class minority split between four other countries.
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To be fair, the 1948-1967 era in the West Bank, ruled and annexed by Jordan, was fairly good and accepted by the palestinians. The Jordanian parliament was even accounting for them, it had like 1/2 of the representatives from the West Bank and the other 1/2 from the East Bank (Jordan proper).
Then, the Neguev and the Sinai aren’t really different from each other.
 
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felixs

DaniCBP said:
To be fair, the 1948-1967 era in the West Bank, rules and annexed by Jordan, was fairly good and accepted by the palestinians. The Jordanian parliament was even accounting for them, it had like 1/2 of the representatives from the West Bank and the other 1/2 from the East Bank (Jordan proper).
Then, the Neguev and the Sinai aren’t really different from each other.
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Yes Negev isnt really Palestine but Palestinians would dominate Jordan completely and the monarchy would probably go the way of Iraqi monarchy soon
 

Sharklord1

DaniCBP said:
To be fair, the 1948-1967 era in the West Bank, ruled and annexed by Jordan, was fairly good and accepted by the palestinians. The Jordanian parliament was even accounting for them, it had like 1/2 of the representatives from the West Bank and the other 1/2 from the East Bank (Jordan proper).
Then, the Neguev and the Sinai aren’t really different from each other.
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So if that's true, why did the civil war in Jordan occur? Genuinely curious
 
DaniCBP

DaniCBP

Sharklord1 said:
So if that's true, why did the civil war in Jordan occur? Genuinely curious
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As far as I’m concerned, it was after the 1967 war and loss of the West Bank that tensions between the palestinian militants (which hardly existed before the war) and the Jordanian government
 

Sharklord1

DaniCBP said:
As far as I’m concerned, it was after the 1967 war and loss of the West Bank that tensions between the palestinian militants (which hardly existed before the war) and the Jordanian government
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So why were they created? Did militants get pushed out of the West Bank or did they start forming as a result of Israel's military occupation of the West Bank, which the Jordanian government lost control over?
 
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