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check my edit answer, Money, Jetix never have it, they always were part of Disney, is like asking how buenavista could finance themselves? they need the money from Disney tiselft
Star Wars is a work of fiction. Is space wizards fighting with laser swords “credible”?
The drama, of people going for impossible odds, plus the force has limitations and rules in universe, plus we're dealing OTL events, organization needs management and money, disney was just a brand for FOX/DISNEY Family international networks, if disney say, we're closing, they can just look for new jobs, they have zero power.
This is the same disney ended up killing jake long because Kim possible production team hate it
Believe it or not, Jetix Italy actually became independent rather than get absorbed by Disney, becoming Switchover Media. Maybe they convince the rest of Jetix Europe to do the same.
Or maybe Bandai convinces them not to merge with Disney because “they’re gonna kill Power Rangers.”
After some thinking, you are probably right in that someone would need to back it financially. I see Saban, who would rebuy Power Rangers in 2010, being the main backer (making this the equivalent of Saban Brands), and 4Kids may or may not also back it. WB, while I did say they have a content deal, does still own CN, both in the US and internationally (where the WB-CN feud isn’t as strong). NBC Universal at this point owns stakes in Qubo in the US and KidsCo internationally. Sony has Animax, which isn’t the same demographic but does have significant overlap. And after struggles with 4Kids TV (4Kids not paying their lease, and the block not reaching the intended 90% coverage across America… thanks New World), Fox was just done with children’s television. They switched to infomercials on Saturday morning and never looked back. (Except for Xploration Station, but that was teen-centric E/I content they’re forced to have and they’d get rid of it in a heartbeat if they could.)
Or maybe Bandai convinces them not to merge with Disney because “they’re gonna kill Power Rangers.”
After some thinking, you are probably right in that someone would need to back it financially. I see Saban, who would rebuy Power Rangers in 2010, being the main backer (making this the equivalent of Saban Brands), and 4Kids may or may not also back it. WB, while I did say they have a content deal, does still own CN, both in the US and internationally (where the WB-CN feud isn’t as strong). NBC Universal at this point owns stakes in Qubo in the US and KidsCo internationally. Sony has Animax, which isn’t the same demographic but does have significant overlap. And after struggles with 4Kids TV (4Kids not paying their lease, and the block not reaching the intended 90% coverage across America… thanks New World), Fox was just done with children’s television. They switched to infomercials on Saturday morning and never looked back. (Except for Xploration Station, but that was teen-centric E/I content they’re forced to have and they’d get rid of it in a heartbeat if they could.)
Here this a POD you can nurture, also as you say, some block weakness in the US. Bandai/Toei could also offer content(now a channel to show pretty cure), Ironic if Jetix get back into ABC when disney shutdown just their own block, LA and NYC ABC stations would love to get PR back on the air
I've got a WB-centric timeline of my own, if you guys want to hear it.
What if Warner Bros. didn't partner with Fox Kids and chose to go independent?
Let's say that, like other times before and since, Warner Communications became too self-confident, and tried to make their own weekday syndication block to match against The Disney Afternoon. Headlined by Tiny Toon Adventures, no less.
Doing this could have given Disney some competition closer to home, while Fox Kids would be without a significant partner in the network. Here's where Haim Saban comes in.
Assuming that WB scopes out its own niche in broadcast syndication, and all other programming licenses still exist, Ninja Turtles on CBS chief among them, they could pick up something like Barnyard Commandos in 1990, and become even more reliant on Saban Entertainment than they already are. Samurai Pizza Cats would almost instantly get a weekday slot there, let's be fair.
It's not much, but it's something.
What if Warner Bros. didn't partner with Fox Kids and chose to go independent?
Let's say that, like other times before and since, Warner Communications became too self-confident, and tried to make their own weekday syndication block to match against The Disney Afternoon. Headlined by Tiny Toon Adventures, no less.
Doing this could have given Disney some competition closer to home, while Fox Kids would be without a significant partner in the network. Here's where Haim Saban comes in.
Assuming that WB scopes out its own niche in broadcast syndication, and all other programming licenses still exist, Ninja Turtles on CBS chief among them, they could pick up something like Barnyard Commandos in 1990, and become even more reliant on Saban Entertainment than they already are. Samurai Pizza Cats would almost instantly get a weekday slot there, let's be fair.
It's not much, but it's something.
I’m assuming the line-up would be Merrie Melodies with Bugs Bunny and Friends, Tiny Toons, Fun House, and some other fourth show. But what would the fourth show be?
I bet it would be either ThunderCats or The Comic Strip, depending on which one Telepictures would prefer to promote.
So, ThunderCats, then.
Then again, they also had the rights to Gumby and 65 episodes of Alvin and the Chipmunks…
Then again, they also had the rights to Gumby and 65 episodes of Alvin and the Chipmunks…
Say, all this talk about another children's cable network other than Nick, CN, or Disney has got me intrigued. While some can point to examples like The Hub/Discovery Family and Universal Kids as examples of why "fourth kid networks" usually fail - those came out during the sunset era of cable TV. I'm more talking about potential competitors coming out in the late 1990s/early 2000s when cable TV is iron strong. I think given 3 is considered the maximum competition - perhaps the fourth one could be a joint venture where all the smaller companies contribute content to. Similar to Fox Kids in its prime.
In my ongoing TL, this actually eventually happens and by the 2000s there are six major children's cable networks: Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, The Disney Channel, KidzBox, Animax, and The Hub. The latter three are all jointly owned.
Hell no it isn't credible, so fictional history can be anything!
AWESOME! I think I might make Jetix independent in my new TL I'm working on, or might make it that from the get-go.
How were they able to do that legally?
Cool, and as long as these shows are comedic action or fits with the speculative fiction(sci-fi, fantasy, adventure, horror, mystery, etc.) themes of the network, then I'm down.
Oh wow.........
For real?
That's just crazy.....so basically, Cartoon Network is FUCKED in terms of action after they cancel Toonami.... Would Jetix Worldwide buy Marvel?
Nice.
Ummm........Why can't CN air it? They'll need something for their action block since DC has left them for the World of Jetix. Regardless, does Jetix have looser censorship? Does Shippuden last longer?Most third party Dacquisitions, such as Naruto Shippuden, stick around.
Ok, but do they still do that stupid "Power Rangers Super _____" thing? I always thought that was a pain in the ass. Maybe RPM airs in 2010 instead of the MMPR remaster while 2009's installment is retooled as a backdoor pilot to Aaron Stone?
Nice! I also think Jetix on The CW would be fucking awesome!
I could see that happening. Maybe we both can collab on this? I did have a old TL idea for Jetix that NEVER WENT ANYWHERE. Maybe we could work on it together @Tacomaster?
I could see Bandai being the main reason the merger doesn't happen. If anything, I can see Bandai Namco buying a stake in Jetix itself. Imagine Jetix becoming the exclusive home for the likes of Gundam, Sgt. Frog and even Pretty Cure, Kamen Rider and One Piece as well!
Naw. Since WB just gave their best shows to Jetix, why not have WB stab Turner in the back even further by having them buy a stake in Jetix Worldwide?
Right...........
Yeah.....no wonder 4Kids went with Jetix
I think Fox could have gave it another shot in the 2010s. Oh, why not have Fox buy a stake in Jetix? Or at least have them start up something?
Exactly.
Cool! In TL-2K23, by 2010, these are the major kids/animation networks
Cartoon Network/Kids' WB(or maybe Nickelodeon or Checkerboard) - TimeWarner
Disney Channel/Toon Disney - Universal Vista
Fox Family - 20th Century Fox
Animax - MGM Columbia Entertainment
Qubo - NBC Rainbow
Noggin - independent
Disney Channel/Toon Disney - Universal Vista
Fox Family - 20th Century Fox
Animax - MGM Columbia Entertainment
Qubo - NBC Rainbow
Noggin - independent
I think I'm pretty sure he said it was.