On the map, Beijing is clearly shown as part of the North Chinese communist state.
Do you mean Nanjing? That was where the GMD/KMT put their capital when they were in charge
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Do you mean Nanjing? That was where the GMD/KMT put their capital when they were in charge
Bless Norden, though I have to say I doubt Greenland would go it’s own way. Small population and all that. Should we assume the same branch of the Americans still have the Thule Base or might some fighting there between factions, or an attempt to once more expand it and evict the locals in the nearby town, lead to the Greenlanders wanting to step away from the Nordics? Though if so, fat lot of good they would have defending themselves from an invasion. Does Jordan have a bit of the West Bank here? I see the border bulges somewhat, suggest... Maybe a third of it? And would Iran have an alright relationship with Kurdistan, or is it wary of any land claims? Guess it depends partially on if it Iran is an Empire or Islamic Republic.
Cuba hiding itself away? Can’t seem to find any colors on the island.
I'm sorry, I must have lost it. Strange considering it is literally modern Cuba. Will amend.
America lost the Cold War.
The Soviet Union began the 1950s a cripple, bruised badly by a Second World War that the United States played no part in. But, having singlehandedly defeated Germany, the Soviet Union rebuilt Europe in its image, harnessing the industrial and creative powers of that continent to expand the Revolution to new shores. In the East, the Soviet Union wiped up the Japanese Empire, bringing a red banner over Asia.
As the Soviet Union caught up to the United States, the city on the hill turned in desperation to the demagoguery of Richard Nixon, who cemented his control over the republic with illegal means. Though Nixon almost reversed America's fortunes, his death brought the United States into an era of instability. The election of Jesse Jackson marked the penultimate nail in the coffin in the union; the shadowy forces of the Pentagon, fearing Jackson to be America's own Lenin, toppled the president.
This had the opposite effect as intended. America split apart and Americans embraced the comparatively successful socialism of the Soviet Union. But 2000 marked a turning point: David Petraeus, America's own Caesar, rose to power. Petraeus has launched a lengthy campaign to restore America's position in the world. In 2014, the American army plunged into Texas, but soon found itself bleeding in trench warfare. In 2024, America's restoration remains in question.
But communism cannot last forever.
Yeah it’s a coincidence, I assume it’s named that way because the war lasted only seven hours
Greenland is on its way to being independent IOTL as is; ITTL specifically this was further backed by the Greenland Development Corporation, which had a bunch of projects that would be opposed by Denmark (this being prior to Nordic Unification).
The U.S. retained it's base in Thule until the late 2020s when ITTL an isolationist president was elected who campaigned on only keeping the bare minimum American presence abroad; by 2080 it's unlikely either America will ever have foreign bases again.
Israel annexed what portions it wanted and eventually Jordan annexed the remainder under pressure from its own majority Palestinian population.
They have civil relations, once Kurdistan became independent they didn't want to threaten that by making claims on Iran or more of Türkiye; Iran is a secular republic and flawed democracy.
In the aftermath of World War II and the defeat of the Axis, the victorious Allied Powers began a series of discussions for how the new postwar world would function. Many proposals were put forth as to the nature of this rules-based order, but one was put forth in 1945 by the so-called "World Federalists" under Clarence Streit. This new organisation, later given the name of "the United Nations" would be a successor to the old League of Nations, though to address its perceived concerns of uselessness, the UN would take on full governmental duties between all its member states as a federation. While concerns were raised about the sheer reach of such a government, the level of influence former Axis nations would have, the power imbalance the developed countries of Europe and North America and compromises being made between the capitalist & communist worlds, the decision was ultimately made by many nations around the world to move towards a fully-unified Earth, with full federalisation being achieved in 1960.
As of the new year, more than two thirds of the human population live under the UN, with only the twelve nations of India, Brazil, Spain, Liberia, Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Somalia, Colombia, Indonesia, Sudan and Rhodesia remaining independent. The UN: in many ways seen as above petty squabbles is in reality a battlefield of ideologies fighting for the very soul of humanity. While exchange of resources between both capitalist and communist nations, primarily the United States of America and the Soviet Union respectively, is common, sabotage and the spread of propaganda is still quite common, with polarised regions like China, Mexico, France and West Africa being the battlefields upon which this "cold war" is waged. What's more is that many of the UN's poorer regions like Africa, South America and South-East Asia remain in poverty, with the western powers that were once their colonial overlords diverting necessary funds to their own nations, in essence continuing the imperial systems of power that shot them to great power status to begin with.
Despite this, the United Nations remains the wealthiest power in the world and the first true "Superpower", exerting its influence all over the world, even where it is not directly in control.
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How are territories administered
In the aftermath of World War II and the defeat of the Axis, the victorious Allied Powers began a series of discussions for how the new postwar world would function. Many proposals were put forth as to the nature of this rules-based order, but one was put forth in 1945 by the so-called "World Federalists" under Clarence Streit. This new organisation, later given the name of "the United Nations" would be a successor to the old League of Nations, though to address its perceived concerns of uselessness, the UN would take on full governmental duties between all its member states as a federation. While concerns were raised about the sheer reach of such a government, the level of influence former Axis nations would have, the power imbalance the developed countries of Europe and North America and compromises being made between the capitalist & communist worlds, the decision was ultimately made by many nations around the world to move towards a fully-unified Earth, with full federalisation being achieved in 1960.
As of the new year, more than two thirds of the human population live under the UN, with only the twelve nations of India, Brazil, Spain, Liberia, Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Somalia, Colombia, Indonesia, Sudan and Rhodesia remaining independent. The UN: in many ways seen as above petty squabbles is in reality a battlefield of ideologies fighting for the very soul of humanity. While exchange of resources between both capitalist and communist nations, primarily the United States of America and the Soviet Union respectively, is common, sabotage and the spread of propaganda is still quite common, with polarised regions like China, Mexico, France and West Africa being the battlefields upon which this "cold war" is waged. What's more is that many of the UN's poorer regions like Africa, South America and South-East Asia remain in poverty, with the western powers that were once their colonial overlords diverting necessary funds to their own nations, in essence continuing the imperial systems of power that shot them to great power status to begin with.
Despite this, the United Nations remains the wealthiest power in the world and the first true "Superpower", exerting its influence all over the world, even where it is not directly in control.
They're allowed to vote in federal elections, though they're administered directly by the central Manhattan government, either due to being ex-Axis nations, having conflicting claims or not having a big enough population to look over themselves.
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How did Switzerland join the United Nations, especially as they literally refused to join it until 2002 IOTL?
How would that affect cultures?
Especially in former Axis nations that now don't even govern themselves but instead are ruled by an body probably made up of 99% non ex-Axis ethnic groups in Manhattan?
I also did not see Switzerland in the list of member states and territories.
from In at the Death by Harry Turtledove
In celebration of this thread reaching 191 pages, I present my best guesses for what the future holds for the world of TL-191 after the ending of the story. I decided to go with what was actually in the text and assumed that the Cold War (Frozen War) would be Germany & the USA against Japan. I also took the liberty of assuming that Germany would fail to hold on to most of its colonial empire and while remaining a great power, would cease to be a superpower. (Act 1 of the Frozen War) but the end of European rule in (most of ) Africa [1] would remove much of the anti-colonial alliance's raison d'etre, and the Japanese Empire [2] would fall at some point a la the Soviets (Act 2 of the Frozen War). As for the United States, I don't feel the need to make them collapse since they weren't a consistent Russia analog. (In American Empire they were more Britain and France than Russia). I also went back and forth on Libya's fate, because I feel a neutral Italy might have been able to swamp Libya, but per advice in the work-in-progress thread, I decided that it would be both unfortunate if and hardly guaranteed that Italy would hold on alone.
[1] The colonies Germany held onto were the ones with low population that could be easily accessed by the German navy.
[2] Japan, much like Germany, still maintains a few extra territories, all of which have since been very publicly and insistently integrated into the homeland. China, Russia and Korea are less than thrilled, but aren't going to start a major power war over it. Hopefully.
Credit to @Unkown00 for the basemap
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Following the War of American Independence in 1748, Emperor Charles I & III reorganized the former Spanish Viceroyalties into the Hispanic American Empire — before, the logic for the conflicting administrative divisions and hierarchies had been to make the Viceroyalties unable to politically and economically organize between themselves against the motherland, a sort of "divide and conquer" strategy, but now he actually needed to make America work as an independent country, especially since his erstwhile war allies, Britain and Portugal, could turn against him at a moment's notice (a somewhat prescient consideration).
Before, all the Viceroyalties, Kingdoms, Captaincies-General, Governorships, Audiencias, etc. had been administered under the Council of the Indies, itself under the Crown of Castille. But with this reform, which would be known as the Carlist Reform, the Crown of America was created in the place of the Crown of Castille, with it's administrative center in Havana, and all the administrative units below the Crown of America were collapsed into just two types, the more autonomous Kingdoms that would be partially governed by local criollos, and the Governorates with a military governor appointed from Havana. Meanwhile, the islands of the Caribbean, such as La Española, Puerto Rico, and Cuba where Havana was located, were categorized as Crown Provinces and administered directly by Charles court. The reforms were received positively by most of Charles subjects, with some notable exceptions. The short San Luis Rebellion, for example, was the consequence of the creation of the Kingdom of New Vizcaya — when New Vizcaya was created, parts of Mexico and New Galicia were granted to it, and lead to a few landowners in the latter kingdoms to rise in rebellion attempting to reverse the grant. However, Havana landed troops to reinforce New Vizcaya, and Mexico and New Galicia refused to support the landowners.
(This is a scenario that I want to develop further, maybe into a full map timeline)
I just want to ask why is Alaska a territory? It's literally a US state.
In the aftermath of World War II and the defeat of the Axis, the victorious Allied Powers began a series of discussions for how the new postwar world would function. Many proposals were put forth as to the nature of this rules-based order, but one was put forth in 1945 by the so-called "World Federalists" under Clarence Streit. This new organisation, later given the name of "the United Nations" would be a successor to the old League of Nations, though to address its perceived concerns of uselessness, the UN would take on full governmental duties between all its member states as a federation. While concerns were raised about the sheer reach of such a government, the level of influence former Axis nations would have, the power imbalance the developed countries of Europe and North America and compromises being made between the capitalist & communist worlds, the decision was ultimately made by many nations around the world to move towards a fully-unified Earth, with full federalisation being achieved in 1960.
As of the new year, more than two thirds of the human population live under the UN, with only the twelve nations of India, Brazil, Spain, Liberia, Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Somalia, Colombia, Indonesia, Sudan and Rhodesia remaining independent. The UN: in many ways seen as above petty squabbles is in reality a battlefield of ideologies fighting for the very soul of humanity. While exchange of resources between both capitalist and communist nations, primarily the United States of America and the Soviet Union respectively, is common, sabotage and the spread of propaganda is still quite common, with polarised regions like China, Mexico, France and West Africa being the battlefields upon which this "cold war" is waged. What's more is that many of the UN's poorer regions like Africa, South America and South-East Asia remain in poverty, with the western powers that were once their colonial overlords diverting necessary funds to their own nations, in essence continuing the imperial systems of power that shot them to great power status to begin with.
Despite this, the United Nations remains the wealthiest power in the world and the first true "Superpower", exerting its influence all over the world, even where it is not directly in control.