List alternate PMs or Presidents

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The Uchronian

Emperor Charles V said:
Presidents of the United States as of 2075

1. George Washington (Independent—Virginia) 1789-1797
2. John Adams (Federalist—Massachusetts) 1797-1801
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican—Virginia) 1801-1809
4. James Madison (Democratic-Republican—Virginia) 1809-1817
5. James Monroe (Democratic-Republican—Virginia) 1817-1825
6. Henry Clay (Democratic-Republican—Kentucky) 1825-1828
Henry Clay (Republican—Kentucky) 1828-1833
7. John Quincy Adams (Republican—Massachusetts) 1833-1837
8. Martin Van Buren (Whig—New York) 1837-1838††
9. Richard M. Johnson (Whig—Kentucky) 1838-1841
10. Abel P. Upshur (Republican—Virginia) 1841-1844†
11. Theodore Frelinghuysen (Republican—New Jersey) 1844-1845
12. Henry Clay (Republican—Kentucky) 1845-1852†
13. Daniel Webster (Republican—Massachusetts) 1852-1853†
14. Linn Boyd (Whig—Kentucky) Jan-Mar 1853
15. Lewis Cass (Whig—Michigan) 1853-1857
16. Stephen A. Douglas (Whig—Illinois) 1857-1861
17. William H. Seward (Republican—New York) 1861-1866††
18. Charles Sumner (Republican—Massachusetts) 1866-1869
19. David F. McCarron (Independent—Ohio) 1869-1877
20. Stewart Bridges, Sr. (Republican—New Hampshire) 1877-1881
21. Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal—New York) 1881-1885†
22. James Scott Lexington (Liberal—Indiana) 1885-1893
23. Samuel A. Bedford (Republican—New Jersey) 1893-1897
24. James Scott Lexington (Liberal—Indiana) 1897-1901
25. Richard M. Fulton (Republican—New York) 1901-1909
26. Henry David Sawyer (Liberal—Iowa) 1909-1913
27. Gregory Owens (Republican—Oregon) 1913-1921
28. Joshua Fullerton (Liberal—Maine) 1921-1925
29. Stephen V. Driscoll (Republican—Connecticut) 1925-1929
30. Charles Courtney (Liberal—New York) 1929-1940†[1]
31. Andrew M. Keller (Liberal—Ontario) 1940-1945
32. Hammond Griffin (Liberal—Illinois) 1945-1949
33. Kenneth Mitchell (Conservative—Ohio) 1949-1957
34. John W. Foulkes (Liberal—Kansas) 1957-1961 [2]
35. Gordon Knight (Conservative—Oregon) 1961-1969 [3]
36. Virginia Callahan (Conservative—Long Island) 1969-1974* [4]
37. Bill Martin (Conservative—Alberta) 1974-1977
38. Pierre Blanchard (Socialist—Quebec) 1977-1989 [5]
39. Jake Horowitz (Conservative—Ohio) 1989-1996** [6]
40. Henry Swann (Conservative—Pennsylvania) 1996-1997 [7]
41. Abigail Watson (Socialist—Massachusetts) 1997-2001
42. Henry Swann (Conservative—Pennsylvania) 2001-2005
43. Jerome Anthony Bilandic (Socialist—Illinois) 2005-2013 [8]
44. Sean Caldwell (Conservative—Ontario) 2013-2021
45. Amy Feinstein (Socialist—Minnesota) 2021-2025
46. Sebastián Caldero (Socialist—New York) 2025-2030†† [9]
47. Leonard Bachmann (Socialist—Montana) 2030-2033
48. Samantha Sferlazza (Conservative—New Jersey) 2033-2037 [10]
49. Matthew Shuler (Independent—Seward) 2037-2045
50. Samantha Sferlazza (People’s Liberty—New Jersey) 2045-2049
51. Michaëlle Bernard (Socialist—Quebec) 2049-2053 [11]
52. Rick Bryson (People’s Liberty—Absaroka) 2053-2061 [12]
53. Emily John (Green—Maine) 2061-2065 [13]
54. Mark Barrett (Socialist-Farmer-Labor—Wisconsin) 2065-2071*
55. Grace Chang (Socialist-Farmer-Labor—Columbia) 2071-2073 [14]
56. Sara LaMalfa (People’s Liberty—Indiana) 2073-present [15]

† died in office (illness / natural causes)
†† assassinated
* Resigned
** Impeached and removed from office

Italicized states represent states no longer part of the union

[1] First Roman Catholic president, First Irish American president
[2] First Native American president
[3] First Mormon president
[4] First female president
[5] First Francophone president
[6] First Jewish president
[7] First African American president
[8] First Croatian American president
[9] First Hispanic president, First Puerto Rican American president
[10] First Italian American president
[11] First African American female president
[12] First Mexican American president (non-Hispanic)
[13] First openly gay president
[14] First Asian American president
[15] First Hispanic female president, First Hispanic Mexican-American president

Records:
Oldest president – Pierre Blanchard (79 when he left office)
Youngest president – Samantha Sferlazza (37 when she entered office)
Longest-serving president – Henry Clay (15 years, nonconsecutive)
Longest-serving president (consecutive) – Pierre Blanchard (12 years)
Shortest-serving president – Linn Boyd (39 days)

Major Parties as of 2075:

People’s Liberty Party (PLP) – center-right to right-wing on economic issues, libertarian on social issues and foreign policy; led by President Sara LaMalfa, Vice-President Steve Oswald, Madison Devereux in Senate (majority leader) and Brandon McKinney in House (minority leader)
Socialist-Farmer-Labor Party (SFL) – center-left to left-wing on economic issues, center-left on social issues, mixed on foreign policy, receives strong support from labor unions and farmers; led by David Hauschka in Senate (minority leader) and Clarisse Cox in House (speaker)
Green Party – centrist to center-left on economic issues, left-wing on social issues, dovish on foreign policy, strongly environmentalist; led by Faith Buerkle in Senate (third party leader) and Jaimey Echohawk in House (coalition leader)
American People’s Party (APP) – center-right to right-wing on economic issues, right-wing on social issues, hawkish on foreign policy; led by Clinton Mifflin in Senate (fourth party leader) and Melanie McCotter in House (third party leader)
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Interesting idea you have there. Looks like you did a decent job with the political butterflies as well. I'm guessing the South is no longer part of the U.S., btw.....Is it the Confederacy or something different?

MrHuman said:
I would probably have more of a comment if there were footnotes instead of just names and pretty colors.
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I'm guessing you missed the footnotes the first time around, TBH; there's like 15 of them. They may not be super-detailed, but still footnotes nonetheless.
 
Thande

Thande

Donor
Wendell said:
For me, this very interesting list fell apart towards the end.
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I was running out of ideas towards the end, hence why I didn't take it any further. Or are you referring to the American intervention thing? On reflection, while carving a British colony out of the CSA in defiance of all international opinion is exactly the sort of thing Palmerston would do, I don't think it's plausible that Palmerston would set up a "put the blacks on top" kind of state given his own views on race, even as part of his "we'll do any policy as long as it hurts the US and other rivals" attitude. So I would probably change that if I redid or expanded it.
 

mr1940s

The Rhythm of History
The US Presidents follow a 60 year pattern, beginning with Truman pulling a Garfield.
1945-1949 Harry S Truman
1949-1953 Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren
1953-1957 Harry S Truman/Estas Kefauver
!957-1961 Everett Dirksen/Henry Cabot Lodge
1961 Everett Dirksen/Nelson Rockefeller*
1961-1965 Nelson Rockefeller
1965-1969 Nelson Rockefeller/Margaret Chase Smith
1969-1973 Spiro Agnew/Charles Percy
1973-1981 John Connally/Henry Scoop Jackson
1981-1983Charles Phelps Taft/Jack Kemp ^
1983-1989 Jack Kemp/Howard Baker
1989-1993 Alexander Haig/Pete Du Pont
1993-2001 Mario Cuomo/Al Gore
2001-2005 Mario Cuomo/Paul Wellstone
2005 Mario Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar^
2005-2009 Amy Klobuchar
2009-2013 Mitt Romney/Sam Brownback
2013-Amy Klobuchar/Evan Bayh
*=Assassinated
^=Died in Office
 

Wendell

Thande said:
I was running out of ideas towards the end, hence why I didn't take it any further. Or are you referring to the American intervention thing? On reflection, while carving a British colony out of the CSA in defiance of all international opinion is exactly the sort of thing Palmerston would do, I don't think it's plausible that Palmerston would set up a "put the blacks on top" kind of state given his own views on race, even as part of his "we'll do any policy as long as it hurts the US and other rivals" attitude. So I would probably change that if I redid or expanded it.
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My problem was basically with the U.S. stuff. THe South is very much vindicated if the federal government sees it as being in its power to give away part of a loyal state (Michigan), and allow rebel states to be attached formally to the British Empire. In essence, there'd be no basis on which the Union could endure at that point.
 

The Red

Right, time to get back into the list game, though I'm thinking of branching out from the usual Republican-wank, any suggestions for a scenario?
 
Meadow

Meadow

The Red said:
Preferably something Western and 19th Century-Onwards, I fear anything outside those parameters would be far too reliant on Wikipedia and Bright Colours.
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Do one where the Democrats go Social Democrat and the Republicans go Libertarian after the 2042 midterms. Now.
 

The Red

Meadow said:
Do one where the Democrats go Social Democrat and the Republicans go Libertarian after the 2042 midterms. Now.
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I did actually do one where the reverse took place. :p

I have an idea for an 18th Century-Onwards List, though I'm not sure if anyone would be particularly stoked about permanent Ascendancy Ireland.
 
Thande

Thande

Donor
Wendell said:
My problem was basically with the U.S. stuff. THe South is very much vindicated if the federal government sees it as being in its power to give away part of a loyal state (Michigan), and allow rebel states to be attached formally to the British Empire. In essence, there'd be no basis on which the Union could endure at that point.
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Hmm, interesting point. Well, I was picturing the CSA's military power having been broken at this point so there wouldn't really be a South left to vindicate. I would have thought that a US that has been humiliated in this way would more want to stick together more closely for mutual defence, but I see what you're saying. Perhaps a military coup attempt aimed at the federal government that signed the treaty?
 

glenn67

Wilson pulls a Cleveland analogue.

1913-1917: Woodrow Wilson/Thomas Marshall
1917-1921: Charles Evans Hughes/Charles Fairbanks
1921-1925: Woodrow Wilson/James Cox
1925-1929: Frank Lowden/Charles Dawes
1929-1929: Frank Lowden/Fiorello LaGuardia
1929-1933: Fiorello LaGuardia/vacant
1933-1937: Fiorello LaGuardia/Eli Watson
1937-1941: Earl Warren/Hamilton Fish
1941-1949: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Paul McNutt
1949-1951: Robert Taft/Henry Cabot Lodge
1951-1953: Henry Cabot Lodge/vacant
1953-1957: Henry Cabot Lodge/Allen Dulles
1957-1961: Thomas Dewey/Edward Arn
1961-1969: Hubert Humphrey/Lyndon B. Johnson
1969-1973: Hubert Humphrey/Harold Hughes
1973-1973: Hubert Humphrey/Stuart Symington
1973-1981: Stuart Symington/Albert Gore Sr.
1981-1989: Alexander Haig/Phil Crane
1989-1991: Mario Cuomo/Lloyd Bentsen
1991-1997: Lloyd Bentsen/Rudy Perpich
1997-2001: Phil Crane/Robert Dornan
2001-2002: Phil Crane/Fred Upton
2002-2003: Fred Upton/vacant
2003-2005: Fred Upton/Donald Trump
2005-2009: Jim Folsom Jr/Paul Wellstone
2009-2017: John McCain/Jon Huntsman Jr.
 
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