I was beginning to think this thread had vanished into thin air.
No. Just work getting under foot.
what a terrific job as always, loved this tl for all details and like ever, full of graphics and details.
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Al always terrific job, this timeline have been amazing.
Thank you. The infoboxes have been fun, but the schedules always take the longest. Believe it or not, the schedules are not just show names randomly thrown together. Now, I don't cast every show, but I do know the format and genre of every show on the schedule as well why it fails or succeeds. I find it helps my storytelling. Occasionally, I have to do extra research for an infobox's background. For example, when I did Eastern Seaboard Conference's infobox, I had to figure what teams made up the conference and where they came from. When I came to the BCS infoboxes, it was easy because I already knew what conferences had what teams and how long a conference survived.
Who owns the major comic book companies at this point?
In OTL, the major companies of the early/mid-90s were DC, Marvel, Image, and (I would argue) Archie. In TTL, the three majors (largest to smallest) are DC, owned by Warner Communications; Empire, owned by J2 Communications; and Altair, independently owned.
A quick background.
Despite a POD of 1968, history doesn't really start to diverge until 1974. Martin Goodman founds Empire Comics. Originally, Goodman told the staff rip-off the better DC and Marvel characters. However, the staff was convinced that was not way to go. They were able to license some characters and outright purchase others for less than projected costs. While they weren't able to immediately outsell DC and Marvel, they did well that Goodman leaves them alone. In 1978, Seaboard Publications (Empire's parent company) acquires controlling interest in Archie Comics and folds them into Empire Comic. However, the name, Archie Comics, survives as an Empire imprint. By the mid-80s, they are close third behind DC and Marvel.
In 1985, Golan-Globus is on buying spree among their purchases are Marvel Comics. EIC Jim Shooter is given carte blanche to celebrate Marvel's 25 Anniversary. Shooter decides to destroy the Marvel multiverse and launching a newly rebooted Marvel Universe. The storyline would be presented in the miniseries Zero Hour. This time period would be known as the New Marvel era. Critical reception to New Marvel was not kind and sales didn't increase as projected. In 1990, Marvel was struck another blow when they were put up for sale. Golan-Globus had overextended and needed cash fast. DC sensing an opportunity acted quickly and bought Marvel. DC formally absorbed Marvel in 1991. The last series Marvel produced was Countdown. Countdown brought back the Marvel multiverse and merged it into DC Universe.
Empire had no time to gloat over Marvel's demise as their parent company, Seaboard Publications, was purchased by J2 Communications. However, J2 seems more interested in leveraging the IP. The failure to take advantage of Marvel's absence allowed for the ascension of Altair Comics. Altair was founded in 1977. By 1986, it was the largest of the second tier publishers. However, the Marvel purchase left some writers and artists unhappy with they saw as the monopolization of industry by DC. With Empire not expanding, they decided to form their own imprints. Wanting to challenge the big boys, but not go it alone; the creators turned Altair. Under the Altair banner, each creative team setup their own imprint. The visceral style of these imprints struck a chord with new generation of comic readers and quickly catapulted Altair into a virtual tie for second with Empire.
What is the relationship between Disney and Paramount?
On the surface it appears as if they are sister companies as they are owned by the same company, but for all practical purposes Disney is operated as subsidiary of Paramount Communications.
Does Nintendo still go into the game business?
Yes.
Here is my overview of TTL's console history.
First generation consoles follow generally follow their familiar path. By the time the second generation consoles come around, changes have begun to set in with the two dominate systems being the Atari Astrovision and Magnavox Odyssey2. Following a correction in the video game market, the next generation are released.
The third generation would see new companies enter the market. The Coleco Starvision and Magnavox Odyssey3 would struggle to find market share, while the Sega Masterplay System, Nintendo GameCom, and Atari Astrocade would battle for dominance. This battle would continue into the fourth generation with the Atari Astroventure, Nintendo Super GameCom, and Sega Panthera. It's during this time period that Nintendo releases its handheld console, the GameBox. However, it was beaten to market by the Epyx Sidekick. This allows Epyx to dominate the market.
As TTL enters the fifth generation era, the consoles have switched from cartridges to CD-ROMs. In attempt to gain an edge, Nintendo has teamed up with Sony. The new system is called the Dream Station. However, the relationship between Sony and Nintendo is not strong. Atari (now Epyx Atari) and Sega remain their main competition. Meanwhile, Sega has released the Ocelot while Epyx Atari has produced the Eclipse. In addition, Epyx Atari continues to dominate the handheld market with the Sidekick and Sidekick Plus.
What is the story behind Epyx Atari?
So Epyx bought Atari or viceversa?(otl atari owner was warner till was sold out for so much people before die, epyx was a upstart trying to sell handy before it fail) and seems Handy/Sidekick worked...did have better batery life here?(And wonder what happened nintendo and sega too, specially with Seattle Atheltic mentions as was Nintendo the one pushed for Safeco Field)
The early days of Atari is roughly the same until about 1976 when Atari is purchased by Bally Manufacturing. Its pinball operations are merged Midway, while Atari absorbs Midway's electronic section. Atari doesn't suffer from mismanagement as in OTL, but it does lose ground to other companies. Just like OTL, Bally goes on an expansion spree. By the end of the 80s, over expansion results in them needing to sell-off of some divisions. Atari is spun off in 1992. The following year sees Atari absorbed by Epyx. However, as the Atari name remained a strong brand, Epyx changes the company name to include Atari.
Like Atari, Epyx's early history remains the same. Jon Freeman still leaves to found Free Fall Associates, but he remains associated with Epyx. He produces a number of successes for Epyx. Not wanting to directly compete in the console market, Epyx begins developing a handheld version. In 1987, they will release the Sidekick. It becomes a tremendous success for the company. Despite the release other handheld units, the Sidekick dominates the market. When Atari is spun off in 1992, a prosperous Epyx senses an opportunity and purchases Atari. The new company now has a major presence in both the hardware and software areas of the video game market.
The Seattle Athletics are in Oakland????
In 1975, Finley suggested the Chicago White Sox move to Seattle in order to allow the Athletics move to Chicago. In TTL, he just moves to Seattle.
Did you've to nerf baseball that bad, still otl a mega fans and with 4 division, that will make playoff pretty interesting.
It was not my intention to present a nerfed MLB. Just like in OTL, TTL's MLB is in decline, but ratings and attendance are still higher than in OTL. This is due to things such as MacPhail preventing the 1994 strike and lessening the steroid scandal. Since, MLB didn't lose a step in the 1990s, they ended up expanding to 32 teams. However, the owner's lapdog Bettman has slowing undone some of the progress made in labor relations. MLB only just avoided a strike in 2014. So, Bettman's days are numbered. They didn't fire him 2015 as it would be see as weakness. He will be replaced in 2016 as a fifteen year tenure is seen as long enough. His replacement will be a member of certain Texas family.
Here are some additional details.
In 1972, the Senators move to Texas and become the Spurs. The organization thought the State of Texas might object the use of the name Rangers. This also the year that George Steinbrenner purchases the Cleveland Indians. He will turn them into late 70s/early 80s powerhouse.
In 1976, Charles Finley relocates the Athletics to Seattle. This ends Seattle's lawsuit with MLB. Without the lawsuit, the American League decides to expand at later date. The following year, Finley is forced to sell the team due to his divorce.
In 1978, the National League votes to allow the Designated Hitter.
In 1984, the American League expansion teams, Denver Grizzlies and Toronto Towers, begin play.
In 1985, the newly relocated Minnesota Twins take to the field as the Tampa Bay Corsairs. In 1984, the team was hit hard by the verdicts in the Minnesota Drug Trials as well as the death of their owner. The family wanting out of baseball sells the team to a group from St. Petersburg.
In 1987, the National League adds its two expansion teams to the standings, the Minnesota Monarchs and Washington Federals. The NL's plan to expand into Florida was scraped when in 1984, the Twins announced their relocation. Pressure from the Senator Walter Mondale and Governor Rudy Perpich encouraged them to claim Minnesota.
In 1990, for a variety of reasons including a court finding of collusion, Commissioner Peter Ueberroth resigns. He is replaced by Lee MacPhail. He is successful at the keeping the League running and strong. He manages to rebuild attendance and television ratings while negating threats of a players strike, an owner's lock out, and steroid scandal.
In 1995, the National League expands again with the Arizona Diamondbacks and Miami Marlins.
In 2000, the American League adds the Carolina Colonials and Portland Redwoods. The year also sees the retirement of MacPhail who restored the luster to MLB. He is replace by Gary Bettman.
In 2016, Gary Bettman resigns as MLB Commissioner. His inability to sustain MLB's fortunes as in past six years have seen television ratings and revenues fallen. Ownership/player relations are at the lowest point in twenty years. He is replaced by Neil Bush.
So Xandria..early and better made Underworld with both Spielberg and Goddenbery at the helm...that is awesome.
The image for the movie poster is actually from an advertisement for the TV show Birds of Prey. The film itself is not Underworld, but it is an urban fantasy film. I was imagining a female
Dresden Files or possibly Buffy Summers in a late twentieth century
Doc Sidhe setting.
This film was Spielberg's big hit. He had been "trapped" doing television movies as he was considered the go to guy for genre films. He has since had several hits.
Wonder what is up George Lucas, Ted turner and other ITTL, what will be of wrestling during 90's?
George Lucas is doing quite well. He and Marcia have two children, boy-girl twins. He has managed to achieve auteur status, he was seeking. His films have well received by both critics and audiences. His current project is an animated film dedicated to his children. This will be the first feature length computer animated film.
Ted Turner is still building his media empire. Due to his broadcast interests, he had to sell his interests in the Atlanta Braves and Atlanta Chiefs.
As with OTL, wrestling has begun to expand beyond it roots. Pay-per-view has very lucrative. While there are other organizations exist, there are only two major ones, the WCW and WWF. Neither company has managed to dominate the other. As each company does occasionally manage to poach a star from the other, this keeps the rivalry going. Fans hear rumors of the two merging or forming an MLB-type alliance, but these are just rumors as neither company's management can stand the other.