Favourite Alternate America.

[Grey Wolf]

In an attempt to bump this topic a bit more imaginatively than just writing bump:

As stated above the North American Union is an OTL version of the European Union: a doazen or more indepenent nations ranging from republics to monarchies and speaking English, Spanish, French or some other language rather than a single large English spaeking republic on the US model.

So the question is who would be the member states?

Oo, there's an interesting idea Maybe one could have Dutch or Swedish colonies, depending on when we have the POD

Grey Wolf

 

[Landshark]

Oo, there's an interesting idea Maybe one could have Dutch or Swedish colonies, depending on when we have the POD

Grey Wolf

I'd been going on the idea of the USA breaking apart after the revolution after the consitrutional congress failed but it works just as well with an earlier POD. For places like New Sweden and New Holland to last you'd need Britain to be occupied elsewhere in the world though wouldn't you?

 

[Grey Wolf]

I'd been going on the idea of the USA breaking apart after the revolution after the consitrutional congress failed but it works just as well with an earlier POD. For places like New Sweden and New Holland to last you'd need Britain to be occupied elsewhere in the world though wouldn't you?

If the Glorious Revolution is less successful, leading to a series of real dynastic wars ?

Or if the Restoration is more difficult and destabilising ?

Not sure when those others' colonies vanished ?

Grey Wolf

 

[Landshark]

I thought I'd give one of my oldest threads a bump to see if any newbies are interested or if anyone else gets inspired.

 

[Archangel Michael]

Members of North American Union

Nation--Date of Membership (Language)
United States of America--1789 (English)
Republic of New England--1789 (English)
Federal Republic of America--1789 (English)
Republic of Louisiana--1813 (French and Spanish)
United Republic of Florida and Cuba--1823 (Spanish)
Republic of Texas--1839 (English)
Republic of California--1849 (Spanish)
Holy Mormon Emprie of Desert--1856 (Mormon*)
Confederated Union of Mississippi--1867 (English)
Union of American Tribes--1876 (various)
Federal Republic of Dakota--1887 (English)
Republic of Yucatan--1899 (Spanish)
Union of the Caribbean--1917 (Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Danish, French, and English)
Republic of Nicaragua--1931 (Spanish)
Federal Republic of Labrador--1934 (English)
Dominion of Canada--1941 (English and French)
Republic of Alaska--1941** (English and Russian)

*-A mixture of English, Latin, and French
**-The Republic of Alaska didn't exist from 1946 to 1994. During that time, the Republic of Alaska was an exile government in Washington, D.C., and the government of Alaska was the People's Republic of Alaska.

 

[G.Bone]

oh well....thought the NAU was the NAU from Turtledove's novel...

 

[Mike Collins]

Dont know which one is my favorite. I do know which one I like the least. That would be Dominion of North America. That would make the USA a bigger and climatically warmer Canada!!! Oh, yuck!! Would someone put me out of my misery???

 

[edvader]

NAU. I like the North America in Turtledove's TWO GEORGES,though.

 

[tom]

The French one was close...in fact, I tried to vote for it instead of the Dominion when I thought this was a new poll.

 

[edvader]

Try reading BACK IN THE USSA by Kim Newman. I believe I mentoned this elsewhere.Very interesting. I'd like the North America(?) of the PROBABILITY BROACH and sequels. Then I'm LIBERTARIAN!

 

[Tetsu]

I would pick the Republic of Vinland, simply for pure interesting material. I'd go to not only see what that country is like, but how the rest of the world turned out.

The French USA would be interesting, so long as it's just a mirror opposite, and of course we retain our American warlike instincts. If we got the French war ethic, we'd have been conquered by Mexico long ago.

But I would go for the Vinland republic. Like someone said before, there's a good chance some native nations survived. Perhaps Vinland is bordered to the south by Azteca?

 

[Straha]

I would pick the Republic of Vinland, simply for pure interesting material. I'd go to not only see what that country is like, but how the rest of the world turned out.

The French USA would be interesting, so long as it's just a mirror opposite, and of course we retain our American warlike instincts. If we got the French war ethic, we'd have been conquered by Mexico long ago.

But I would go for the Vinland republic. Like someone said before, there's a good chance some native nations survived. Perhaps Vinland is bordered to the south by Azteca?

why not Azteco? I'll make a map for the NAU earth....

 

[fhaessig]

Les états-Unis d'Amérique

Though, I think the PoD has to be around 1610.

Maybe a possibility in 1685, but that is stretching it.

 

[Tetsu]

why not Azteco?

Because I think Azteca sounds better.

 

[Leo Caesius]

Azteca's the Spanish form, isn't it? It's closer to the original Nahuatl, which was, IIRC, aztecatl.

Azteco sounds like a good name for an oil company.

 

[fhaessig]

The French USA would be interesting, so long as it's just a mirror opposite, and of course we retain our American warlike instincts. If we got the French war ethic, we'd have been conquered by Mexico long ago.

Try learning some history, will you?

 

[Tetsu]

Try learning some history, will you?

It was a joke. Note the smiley?

 

[Tetsu]

Azteca's the Spanish form, isn't it? It's closer to the original Nahuatl, which was, IIRC, aztecatl.

Azteco sounds like a good name for an oil company.

Actually, I believe they called themselves the Mexicatl, which is where "Mexico" comes from. I honestly don't know who coined "Aztec", but it was, I think, a reference to "Aztlan", or the somewhat mythical place the Aztecs originated from. (Speculated to be southern to central Texas).

 

[Leo Caesius]

Actually, I believe they called themselves the Mexicatl, which is where "Mexico" comes from. I honestly don't know who coined "Aztec", but it was, I think, a reference to "Aztlan", or the somewhat mythical place the Aztecs originated from. (Speculated to be southern to central Texas).

I've read that it means "one who comes from the place of the cranes;" áztatl means crane in Nahuatl, apparently.

 

[fhaessig]

It was a joke. Note the smiley?

Some jokes get VERY old around this Board