BURNISHED ROWS OF STEEL: A History of the Great War (Foreward)

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BURNISHED ROWS OF STEEL Chapter 2, Part 1 – On Canada's fair domain…

BURNISHED ROWS OF STEEL: A History of the Great War
By T.F. Smith
Copyright (c) 2013-2014 by the author. All rights reserved.

Chapter 2, Part 1 – On Canada's fair domain

i. ‘tis to Glory we Steer…

Come, cheer up, my lads, 'tis to glory we steer,
To add something more to this wonderful year;
To honour we call you, as freemen not slaves,
For who are so free as the sons of the waves?

Heart of Oak are our ships,
Jolly Tars are our men,
We always are ready: Steady, boys, Steady!
We'll fight and we'll conquer again and again.

- taken from “Harlequin's Invasion," music by William Boyce, lyrics by David Garrick, originally performed 1760


Hired Military Transport Melbourne
January, 1862
The North Atlantic

The Melbourne, a small steamer even in comparison to her consort, the 2,400 ton screw corvette HMS Orpheus, was barely making way, bucking the long black rollers of the Atlantic as the rain sleeted down from the west. As the waves struck, the little steamer shuddered, and spray spouted over her.

The transport had sailed from Woolwich on 7 December and taken a week to pick up her convoy, the transports Australasia, Persia, and Parana. The convoy, carrying some 3,000 of the 11,000 men in the first contingent, was escorted by Orpheus, flying the pennant of Commodore W. F. Burnett, CB. The ships had assembled at Plymouth and then steamed to Queenstown harbor in Cork for additional coal, stores, and a few late-arriving soldiers.

The argument against using Melbourne, well known as a ‘lame duck” that had been condemned during the Crimean War and had broken down repeatedly during the China War, on the North Atlantic in winter was well understood in the Cabinet, but the Government was concerned with the political, not the military aspects of the departure. Because of the “sobering effect” it would have in Washington, the argument went, Palmerston wanted the troops’ departure announced as quickly as possible - in Parliament and elsewhere - to show that Britain meant what the prime minister’s government had said.

So, despite Cornewall-Lewis’ protests, the ships had been loaded and left Cork on 14 December; they almost immediately ran into bad weather, with Melbourne and Orpheus both falling behind the convoy. Burnett had signaled the larger ships to proceed, while the corvette stayed with Melbourne – in large part, because of who was aboard.

The rapid organization of the expedition had put most of the two Guards battalions, some artillery, and supplies of various types aboard the three larger transports. Some of the Grenadier Guards, however, including Capt. Jonny Stanley, were jammed aboard Melbourne, along with a telegraphy section and many of the quartermaster’s staff for the contingent. These included, among others, Col. K.D. Mackenzie, CB, the designated deputy quarter master general for the force. Mackenzie had served in the same post for Sir James Hope Grant’s 11,000-man expedition to China from India in 1860; his CB came from his service in China. Also aboard her was Capt. W.F.E. Seymour, of the Coldstreams, who had boarded in Cork to serve as an aide-de-camp in North America.

It was quite a glittering array, Jonny Stanley thought – made somewhat less glittering that half the men had spent most of the past week puking their guts out, in the heads or over the taffrail, even as the merchant navy sailors went about their business. The stink of vomit penetrated even into the saloon, where the officers spent their days frustrated over the lack of progress. Below decks must be something out of Hogarth, he thought. Christ, at this rate, we’ll need a week to get everyone back on their feet at Cape Breton before we can go anywhere

“What’s that, Captain? The thin red line is getting thinner, eh?” the speaker was Lt. Col. Garnet Wolseley, of the 90th Foot, who had served as Mackenzie’s deputy in China and been assigned to the same duty for this force.
“We’ve been cabin’d, cribb’d, and confined long enough to drive them all to the heads…or the stern. Worse than when I went out to Burmah in ’52, or the Crimea in ’54. At least on those trips, you could look outside and see something other than grey water and grey sky.”

Wolseley had carried the China assignment off well, and had been rewarded with his brevet lieutenant-colonelcy. Not bad for the son of a retired infantry major; equally not surprisingly, Mackenzie had asked for him for the contingent headed for Canada. Wolseley, at 27 only three years older than Stanley, was one the most glittering of the array aboard Melbourne, more so even than Mackenzie. The lieutenant colonel was widely regarded as one of the most driven young officers in the service – if not a little too driving at times, Stanley thought.

“My apologies, colonel, you were saying?” Stanley asked, covering his being startled with a question.

The lieutenant colonel examined Stanley coolly. Stanley looked back; being the son of a lord and a member of the Cabinet did wonders for one’s self-confidence, even two ranks down, he thought idly. Wolseley was slender, ramrod-straight, but only 5 foot 7 inches tall; substantially shorter than the Guards officer. He had penetrating blue eyes, although Wolseley had come back from the Crimea with only one still functional, Stanley knew. But you can’t tell…something of a weak chin, however, Stanley thought.

“What I was saying, Captain, is that at this rate, your battalion will need a reinforcement draft to be back up to scale by the time we get to Halifax,” Wolseley said, grinning; apparently the seas did not affect him, although Colonel Mackenzie had retired to his cabin and Seymour, far from the effortlessly cool aide-de-camp he had been in Ireland, was looking decidedly green at the gills. “And we certainly won’t be making passage of the St. Lawrence in this sad excuse for a ship; too much for the engines, I’d wager.”

“Un…doubt…edly, colonel,” Seymour choked out, as Melbourne took another long shuddering drop down a roller. “I expect…the Nova Scotia Command staff…under Gen. Hastings Doyle will arrange…passage from Halifax to Montreal by rail.”

“Ah, but that’s the thing, captain – there is no railway from Halifax to Quebec; the only railroad to Montreal from the Atlantic starts in Portland, Maine, in the States – no, we’ll have to do that bit from Halifax to Quebec by sleigh – which, of course, our friends at Horse Guards have provided, which is part of why we’re so jammed aboard this tub,” Wolseley said. “Imagine? Sending sleighs from England to New Brunswick. That makes perfect sense…”

“I’m surprised you allowed it, colonel,” Stanley offered. “I’d have expected-“

Wolseley cut in:

“Too late to do anything about it by the time I got to Woolwich; they’d already been loaded aboard, along with who knows what else - 75 tons of stores and etc. on the hurricane deck, 90 days of provisions below – but nothing secured and no room to move…no wonder the tars all have such long faces,” the colonel responded coolly. “Damn thing will probably begin taking on water before we get much further. Oh well, we’ll sort it out ashore, just like in Russia. God knows this can’t be any worse than that; other than whose army we’ll be facing at the other end, of course.”

Stanley perked up that, and began:

“What do you mean, colonel? I was at Sebastopol; the Russians certainly knew how to fight-“

“That they did, captain; but they also waited for us to come ashore – the Yankees, damn them, are unlikely to sit and wait for us,” Wolseley said evenly. “Scott is not a fool; they didn’t roll over Mexico in ’48 by being fools. I won’t be surprised if they make us all prisoners of war by February.”

“Colonel!” Seymour protested, his nausea overcome for the moment. “Really!”

“What I mean is, captain, if that if the Yankees are worth their salt, they’ll at once make peace with the south – or at least stand on the defensive down there where they can – and pour 100,000 men into Canada, where they can compensate themselves with whatever they lose in the South, and England be perfectly unable to prevent it,” the colonel said, a little hot himself at this point.

“Unless our government has made up its mind to fitting out an expedition which can start - as soon as war is declared – to seize Portland and open up railway communication to Quebec, I cannot see how we are to maintain our position in Canada this winter … and the troops in garrison there already – all 5,000 of them - can’t do it; they have an appointment with the Yankees on Lake Champlain, whenever the starting gun fires …”

Melbourne began to rise as she took another roller beneath the bow; the ship shuddered, and Seymour stumbled to his feet and headed toward the rail.

“And another one down,” Wolseley said. “Ah, well, a bloody war and a sickly season, correct, Stanley? The best possible way to get ahead in the Army is to try and get killed every time one has the chance…daring and indifference to danger, Jonny, my boy; daring and indifference to danger.”

At that point, Jonny Stanley began to think seriously that his father was more right than he knew.

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ii. Car ton bras sait porter l'épée, il sait porter la croix!

University College
Toronto, Canada West
Province of Canada
January, 1862

The college’s four-story main building was only three years old, but the glowering pile of gray stone, referred to as “Norman Romanesque,” looked five centuries older. Toronto – founded as York in 1793, burned in 1813, re-built, and renamed in 1834 – stretched from the campus toward the lake. The town was a mix of low two and three-story buildings of wood, brick, and stone, with the skyline broken by a few tall trees, church spires, and the occasional taller structure – a mercantile block or factory – looming above the smaller buildings. Snow, turning to slush in the dull brightness of an atypically clear day, covered most rooftops and ran off the eaves, while wood smoke from chimneys across the town slanted skyward; despite the season, the air was still. A low winter sun hung toward the west, and the room was warm from the fireplace.

“Lord, where is he? I can’t be waiting on him all day, Dr. McCaul,” said the younger of the two men seated in the university’s president’s office. A bullet-headed 41-year-old, the speaker threw himself up from a plush chair and began pacing, from one side of the office to the other. “I know he is coming a long way, but so did I – and Ottawa is as close to Toronto for him as it is for me.”

“Patience, John, patience … we have much to discuss with our friend,” said John McCaul, 51, right reverend of the Church of Ireland, MA, LLb and LLd, Trinity College, Dublin, with the calm that was as much of his nature as an academic as the clergyman. “There are great events in motion, and every man of affairs we know has to be thinking ahead. I know where you stood in ’49 on the secularization bill-“

“Despite being a McGill man?” the younger man broke in, abruptly.

John Joseph Caldwell Abbott, member of the province’s Legislative Assembly for Argenteuil, graduate of and professor of law at McGill University in Montreal, and arguably the wealthiest lawyer in the Province of Canada, east or west, was not known for his patience.

“ `It is, sir, as I have said, a small college. And yet there are those who love it!’ " Abbott quoted.

“Ah, um…Webster?” ventured McCaul. “How appropriate, considering the state of the border-“

“Yes, Webster, in Dartmouth College v. Woodward, arguing successfully that corporations did not have to justify their privileges by acting in the public interest, and are independent of the states – rather ironic given what is happening in the States at the moment,” Abbott answered, before plunging ahead:

“And yes, even more so, given the border that he and Ashburton negotiated – especially after the Aroostook Valley crisis. The Americans got Rouse’s Point, and we got a winter sledge road from Halifax to Quebec that barely exists even today, two decades later. I think they got the better part of the deal, don’t you?” Abbott said grimly. “God knows Williams and Monck and Tache and John Alexander are all sweating over it…especially since the Grand Trunk only runs to the sea at Portland, of all places. Not exactly thinking ahead at the time…Good God, McCaul, why did you send for me?”

The academic considered his guest’s comments for a moment, and spoke:

“Not so much because of where you stood in ’49 ahn secularization; more so where you stood the same year ahn annexation,” the clergyman said, his brogue becoming – ever so slightly - more pronounced. “And I hear that General Williams ‘tis already talking about closing the harbour here with blockships, and destroying the Suspension Bridge – and after how many millions have been spent on both of them?”

Abbott looked at him and breathed in:

“In ‘49, I felt differently. Today, when someone asks me about the Annexation Manifesto, I say signing it was a sin of youth, and that `I am, of course, honored to be recruiting the Argenteuil battalion,’ ” Abbott said, almost by rote. “I am, of course, concerned for my country’s safety in light of the events in the States, and trust my service with the militia to be to be evidence that my youthful error has been forgiven…to say anything more would be…inappropriate. And, by God, pretty damn indiscreet, given everything going on at the moment. What idiots they were, to let that St. Alban’s business happen, and then the stupidity of that thing on the Coaticook…”

McCaul stood, and walked to the window, closed tight against the cold. He cranked a single vented pane open, and looked down toward what – in the spring – would be a green lawn. From forty feet below, a thin voice carried in the still air:

“Riflemen, fo’ward, march!

A file of young men, most of them dressed in civilian overcoats against the cold, stepped across the bare dirt in front of the college, keeping – mostly - in step, and avoiding – mostly – the patches of slushy ice that lay here and there. The middle-aged lieutenant drilling them – at 38, he was twice the age as most of his charges, and just as much of an amateur – drew in his breath and yelled, as leather-lunged officers have yelled throughout history:

“Riflemen, by the left, march!

The University Rifle Company of Volunteers, Pattern 1842 Muskets on their shoulders, turned smartly to their respective lefts – except for one student-soldier, who turned right, slipped on a patch of ice, and sprawled into two of his squad-mates. One kept his feet; the other collapsed into a heap, barely avoiding pulling yet another man, one of a handful in uniform, down with him. The volunteer militiamen – for that’s what they were – stopped dead; other than a couple of corporals assigned to the company from the 2nd Volunteer Rifle Battalion (one of three such in the entire province) they were all tyros. The lieutenant was running, crossing the field in little bounds to avoid the slush, and still yelling:

“Companee, halt! Gibson! Mulock! What are you playing at? Are you daft?” the officer shouted, voice rising. “Corporal Muir, can’t you control these men? Gracious, what would Captain Croft say? Heavens, what would Colonel Denison say? Stand up, you two.”

“Cherry…I mean, Professor…I mean, lieutenant…” one of the recruits began in a plaintive voice, cut off as McCaul cranked the vent shut. He turned to Abbott, who interrupted:

“Cherry?” the lawyer asked quizzically.

“ “Cherry’ ‘tis the leftenant, Lt. John Bradford Cherriman, also our chair of mathematics and natural philosophy; his father was a quartermaster in the Light Dragoons, so naturally Cherry thinks he is a natural-born soldier. He was actually a wrangler in the mathematical tripos at Cambridge before coming here,” the older man said with a sad smile, before continuing:

“Croft is the captain; ‘tis chair of chemistry and experimental philosophy. His father was a paymaster of Ordnance…Denison, of course you know, one of our local landlords, turfman, and colonel of militia cavalry; also quite the self-appointed defender of the crown. He had ta’ resign from the town council a while back when he got caught up in the Northern Railway scheme, and has since devoted himself ta’ – uh, other pursuits,” McCaul said, delicately. “He’s quite unabashed about it, however; he’ll be the first to tell you the railway scandal was a put-up job by the Grits, and by the way, that he was at Gallows Hill in 1837…he talks about it as if shooing away Mackenzie’s odds and ends was the equivalent of the Light Brigade at Balaclava. Likes to tell the boys about how they’ll `shit on the stars and wipe their arses on the stripes’ if the `Yahnks’ try anything…”

“Yes, I remember him; he’s one of the ones who has been after John A. to move a militia bill, as if 5,000 volunteers aren’t enough, at God knows what cost – plus they want to drag out the Sedentary Militia, in the middle of winter, to drill them, as well; not surprisingly, the Canada East delegation has told him if he does, it will fail, and John A. will be out and John S. and the Grits will be in,” Abbott said. “Christ above, John A. may as well ask the Frenchies for `rep by pop’… it would go over with them about as well.”

There was silence after that: the political compromises enacted after the 1837-38 risings had held off more conflict, even though the French Canadians bridled at the unification of Upper Canada and Lower Canada into a single Province; their support for that had been bought with a commitment to a 50-50 split in political power, but as the population of Canada West had grown, that had led to agitation for representation by population, or “rep by pop” from the Anglophones; every thinking man knew what such a change would cost the Francophones, and wondered how they would react.

Abbot broke the stillness:

“And so who are those schoolboys of yours, playing soldier?” he asked McCaul.

“The boys are some of the best; Gibson is 19, son of a stonemason; he wrote the matriculation examination in ‘59 and was awarded a scholarship. Up for a silver medal in classics and modern languages, and a prize in Oriental languages,” McCaul said. “Now he is drilling in the mud and ice…”

Abbott looked at him and sighed.

“He’s not alone; they have all the volunteers from the 7th District in Montreal marching around the parade ground at l'Île Sainte-Hélène,” the lawyer said. “And Eardley Wilmot is talking about blowing the Great Victoria Bridge, which is all of two years old…they’re all mad.

The Americans are better equipped than we, and they outnumber us seven to one in population and fifty to one in soldiers at the moment, with more where they came from. All we've got is `the Empah’ and `the Queen’ and ten thousand regulars and volunteers, to hold everything from Saint John to London. Oh, and arrogance, we have plenty of that...and at the Turf Club, of course, there’s plenty of port, and cigars, and dreams of victory…and slavery; we’re ready to climb into bed with the slavers, of course. Gawd’s own grace…”

McCaul looked at him steadily, and then the clergyman came out.

“And so where in all this will you choose to stand, my son?” McCaul asked quietly.

There was dead silence in the room; before Abbott could answer, there was a knock, and the housemaid’s voice, muffled by the heavy chestnut door. “Sir, your second guest has arrived.”

“Have him in, my dear.”

The door opened, and an ancient man in a dark suit, with a shock of wild white hair, stepped in. The maid closed the door as the latest visitor shrugged out of his overcoat, and began to speak in an unmistakable accent:

“Messers, I am here – Quebec is here! Let us say – the dawn is overcast, the morning lowers, and heavily in clouds brings on the day, the great, the important day, big with the fate of Cato and of Rome, as Addison would put it…let us talk, my friends…we have much to discuss…”

Louis-Joseph Papineau, at 75 still seigneur de la Petite-Nation, legislator from 1808 to 1837 and again from 1848 to 1854, veteran of both the 1812-1815 war against the Americans and la guerre des patriotes against the Crown in 1837-38, radical, patriot, exile, returnee, signer of the Annexation Manifesto of 1849, author of the provincial law that granted full political rights to Jews 27 years before anywhere else in the British Empire, and the living, breathing representative of three centuries of le historie du la Belle Nouvelle-France in the flesh, had arrived.

And Upper and Lower Canada would not be the same again.

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iii. Ton histoire est une epopee

Post of Edsall's Hill
Defenses of Washington
District of Columbia
January, 1862

In peacetime, Edsall’s would have been nothing special; it was a typical of the tree-dotted, grassy hills that dotted the District and the bottomlands across Maryland and Virginia, used for grazing or a place to hunt pigeons, partridges, and bobwhite in the summer and fall.

But this winter was different; the hill was cut and crossed with trenches and barricades of timber, with the brown earth rammed between the logs to provide bombproofs. Rifle pits were in place around the foot of the hill, and a regimental camp, made up of neat lines of winter cabins and tents, lay to the northeast.

As far south as the Potomac, January was cold and crisp, but not yet freezing; without rain or snow, the ground was cold but yielding; with it, it turned into mud and muck. But it had been a relatively mild winter so far, and the companies of the 4th Rhode Island Volunteers, not assigned to picket or guard duty, were drilling.

The men had been drilling since recruiting had begun in the summer, as Rhode Island fulfilled its quote of the 500,000 three-year volunteers that had been called for in 1861; the regiment’s first commander, Colonel J.I. McCarty, an old regular, had seen to that. The regiment had drilled constantly as they organized at Providence in the autumn under McCarty; they had drilled constantly after they arrived in Washington in October, when they were sent to Camp Casey for a month in the Army of the Potomac’s “camp of instruction” under Brig. Silas Casey, another old regular who was literally writing the Army’s book, Infantry Tactics for Volunteers, to replace Hardee’s Tactics.

When the Rhode Islanders met with Casey’s approval, the regiment had been mustered in to federal service October 30, turning in their state-issued Model 1842 muskets for new M.1859 Minie rifles purchased by the regular Army’s Ordnance Department, and then drilled some more. This time it was at Camp California until December, under a new colonel, Isaac P. Rodman, who had seen action as a captain with the 2nd Rhode Island in the Bull Run campaign. The regiment had then been assigned to Howard's Brigade, Sumner's Division (on paper, some 10,000 strong), and was sent out to Edsall’s Hill to garrison the post – and, of course, drill some more.

In late December, there had been a rumor they were going to be attached to the expeditionary division being gathered at Annapolis under Rhode Island’s own Maj. Gen. Ambrose Burnside; instead, they remained with Sumner’s newly-formed division, while Burnside’s had moved down the Chesapeake to Hampton Roads, in the Department of Virginia, gone ashore, stormed Norfolk, and then destroyed the navy yard.

More rumors were flying, that the entire division was going to move north to Boston, as Heintzelman’s Division was already, heading north to Albany, because of the deepening crisis with the British. But no orders had come down yet – and so the men drilled.

Beginning at their enlistment, the recruits had received basic individual training in the “school of the soldier”: position of the soldier without arms; eyes left, right, and front; facings; the direct step in common and quick time; and the direct step in double-quick and on the run. Then they progressed to the manual of arms; shouldered arms; load in four times and at will; firing, direct, oblique, by file, and by rank; firing and loading while kneeling and lying; and bayonet exercise. Then they learned - in groups of eight or twelve - the principles of alignment, direct march, oblique march, by-the-flank march, wheeling and changing direction, and double-quick; the squad-level evolutions were followed by exercise and maneuver at the company level, as a skirmish line, and the battalion level; brigade, divisional, and corps level exercises would commence after that - circumstances permitting.

But in the meantime, the men – even the bandsmen, orderlies, and various odds and ends normally excused from close order drill and field exercises, instead formed into an ad hoc company - now were being drilled until they dropped.

“Fall into two ranks!”

“Right, dress.”

“Attention!”

“You, Allen, carry your head back and chest out!”

“Now, right – dress!”

A short, slender officer, wearing the oak leaf of a major, rode up on a beautiful chestnut, dismounted, and walked up to Captain Levi Kent, the company commander. There was an exchange of salutes, a brief huddle, and then Kent yelled out:

“Lavalley! Front and center!”

Private Calixa Lavallée, at 19 the premier cornetist in the regimental band, jogged over and presented arms.

“Zir, Privat Lavallée reportin’ as order’…zir,” he said to Kent, before acknowledging the second officer. “Commandant – uh, mazor.”

“Lavalley, this is Major Duffy. He wants to talk to you,” Kent said, dismissively. “Major, he is all yours.”

The major, whippet-thin and a head shorter than Lavallée, was immaculately uniformed in the dark blue jacket and light blue trousers of the cavalry, sharply tailored, and complete with saber and holstered revolver at his waist. He turned toward the infantry officer, wrinkled an aquiline nose above a flamboyant waxed mustache and van dyke, and spoke:

“Capitaine, is it not customary in zis regiment to ask a senior officer if he has any additional requests?” the major said, with a hint of an accent only slightly akin to that of Lavallée.

“Certainly, major … is there anything else, major?” Kent asked.

“No, you are dismizzed. Merci,” the major said, turning and then mounting the chestnut. He rode away from the parade ground, as Kent stood fuming before turning back to his awkward squad. The cavalry officer turned in the saddle to speak with the musician.

“Lavallée, come with me. I am Major Duffié, of the 2nd New York Cavalry, currently on special service with the 55th New York. Tell me, Lavallée, do you love America? And do you love Quebec?”

“Oui, mon commandant,” the Canadien replied, immediately. “Les etats-unis, est le ennemi de la tyrannie…et Quebec est ma propre terre -”

“And what do you think of Monsieur Papineau? Back in ’37?” the Frenchman asked abruptly. “And of the British?”

“Papineau? Il est un grand patriote,” the private said. “Et les Anglais? Un race étrangère...”

“Interesante…étrangère, indeed. Lavallée, would you be interested in doing something more exciting in this war than playing the trumpet?” the major asked. “Are you ready to do something more than play the trumpet?”

“Oui, mon commandant,” the Canadien said. “Oui.”

Lavallée would not be alone.

(more to come)
 
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Great post Sir, I wonder why GB and BNA never developed a more extensive RR infrastructure before the ACW. Being Tied to a neighboring Nations Infrastructure for the Transport of goods, when you have a history of conflict with said Nation...:confused:...Anyhoo Bravo Good Sir, Can we have some more...;)
 

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Basically, the backers of the NB line ran out of money;

Like so many railway backers in the Nineteenth Century, their reach exceeded their grasp. There were more than a few railway "bubbles" in this period.

It took Confederation to really create an integrated system coast to coast, and even then there were several fits and starts along the way, as well lines that never recovered their costs, certainly not in any sense of a reasonable return on investment.

As far as strategic thinking, the lack of a link between New Brunswick and Quebec was not the worst of it; the 15-mile-long Beauharnois Canal, which provided the shipping route around some pretty significant rapids on the St. Lawrence, was actually built on the south side of the river. Before it opened in 1843, apparently no one thought about how wide open it was to action from the south.

Afterwrds, of course, it was a little late.

Thanks for the kind words; appreciate the encouragement.

Anything you found particularly interesting or entertaining?

Best,
 
Just read the newest chapters. It would hurt Britain if Melboune got sunk do to weather. If somehow it and the escort sunk it would really ramp up hostilities. There is also the realism on some of the officers knowing just how far out their butts would be once they landed. If the US moved enoug forces to bottle up the reinforcements, could be a nasty siege.

I am a little confused with the Quebec situation. Is Papineau working to offer Quebec allegience to the Canadians and Britains coming war or against it? With that is the recruitment of the French speaking US soldiers going to try to be a fifth columnist type organization and raise up rebellions to tie up Imperial forces?

Thanks for the update and when things start to really heat up it will get bloody. Britain will try to control the sea, the US the land, and the traitors laughing to the South. Hopefully the Americans will be able to give the CSA a bloody nose or two.
 

TFSmith121

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Melbourne's tortuous passage is historical;

Just read the newest chapters. It would hurt Britain if Melboune got sunk do to weather. If somehow it and the escort sunk it would really ramp up hostilities. There is also the realism on some of the officers knowing just how far out their butts would be once they landed. If the US moved enoug forces to bottle up the reinforcements, could be a nasty siege.

I am a little confused with the Quebec situation. Is Papineau working to offer Quebec allegience to the Canadians and Britains coming war or against it? With that is the recruitment of the French speaking US soldiers going to try to be a fifth columnist type organization and raise up rebellions to tie up Imperial forces?.

The only major difference is that HMS Orpheus was separated, so Melbourne sailed by herself (historically); if she had foundered, it is quite likely no one would have survived.

Of if war had broken out over the Trent (historically) and USS Wabash or Brooklyn or whoever had come across her, it would have been a short war for a fair number of British soldiers; as it was, there was a point during the voyage when they contemplated running south and then west, probably to New York or Boston, the seas were so bad.

As it was, (historically) some of the British staff officers - including Wolseley - actually got to Montreal by way of Boston and the (US) railroad...it's almost funny.

Almost.

And Wolseley and MacKenzie were aboard Melbourne; I added Jonny Stanley and Capt. Seymour to have some conversation, and not have to introduce a couple of new characters. I kind of allowed for that by having Adriatic's owners avoid her (historical) charter.

The quote from Wolseley is historical; it from a letter he wrote in December, before he sailed. I found it in Amanda Foreman's World on Fire; part of what got me thinking seriously about this scenario.

My aim with the scene in McCaul's office (Abbott, McCaul, and Papineau are all "real", as are the students and their "officers," including George Denison and both professors) was to make clear the political divisions within British North America in 1861-62; this was less than 25 years after the 1837-38 rebellions, and only 12 years after the burning of the Canadian Parliament over amnesty for the 1837 rebels; the divide between Francophones and Anglophones in BNA was very real.

And there were divides within the two lingual communities as well; les rouges were a very real part of Canadien politics, as much as the conservatives, and the Anglophones were not monolithic either; the Annexation Manifesto was real, and Abbott - who went on to serve as the third Canadian PM - had signed it in 1849.

As had Papineau.

The question of who is willing to take action, and who will stand pat, is an interesting one. Still thinking about that question.

The recruiting scene suggested itself as soon as I came across Lavallee's service in the US Civil War - the fact the author of "O, Canada" wore US blue is one of those things that if it wasn't true, people would say was over the top and ASBish.

Duffie is just an interesting (historical) character, but given his career, seemed like a good fit for the "de oppresso liber" role. The 55th NY is an obvious choice.

Thanks for reading, and the feedback. Appreciate it.

Best,
 
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Well I really appreciate the background on these characters that you have shared. It shows you have done your research and get a feel on how these persons might have reacted in this POD.

That is almost ASB that the creator of Canada's national anthem served in the US Army. That he might be used to get a breakaway Quebec to seek her freedom and at the same time aid the US is also a twist. While I ask my questions I am still a fan and appreciate each update.:)
 

TFSmith121

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Thanks - there's a little nod along similar lines with

"Corporal Muir"...

The author of the "Maple Leaf Forever" was a volunteer militiaman in this same period, and in the same battalion the Toronto University company was (eventually) assigned to...which still exists today in the Canadian Army reserve, interestingly enough.

The past isn't dead; it's not even past, as a much better writer than myself put it, once upon a time.

Best,
 
Truth is much more stranger, & Ironic then any plausible fiction could ever hope to be. The Classical Greeks understood this so well.
 
The twists and turns of history help to create eddies and tides. The ebb and flow of the currents that OTL and ITTL historians and writers take to type up what happens is a blessing I can only admire.

Best wishes until the next chapter.:cool:
 

TFSmith121

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True enough, which is why history is always fascinating.

Truth is much more stranger, & Ironic then any plausible fiction could ever hope to be. The Classical Greeks understood this so well.

The characters are better than anything in fiction.

Best,
 

TFSmith121

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Thanks - going to try and have it posted over the

The twists and turns of history help to create eddies and tides. The ebb and flow of the currents that OTL and ITTL historians and writers take to type up what happens is a blessing I can only admire. Best wishes until the next chapter.:cool:

weekend. One more conversation scene, and then two battles of note, I think. One will end in a surrender, and one will not...

Best,
 
weekend. One more conversation scene, and then two battles of note, I think. One will end in a surrender, and one will not...

Best,

Then I await the weekend. The tease on the battles and who wi surrender to whom has me piqued. ;)
 

TFSmith121

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One is historical, one is "alternate," but based on a

Then I await the weekend. The tease on the battles and who wi surrender to whom has me piqued. ;)

historical precedent.

Both would have a significant impact in this geostrategic situation...

Best,
 

TFSmith121

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You are quite welcome;

Well I will not try to guess. Just await what is revealed and comment from there. As always thanks.:)

I am trying hard to avoid any chiroptera beyond the obvious ones needed to trigger a "significant" US-UK confrontation in 1861-62...

Best,
 
I am trying hard to avoid any chiroptera beyond the obvious ones needed to trigger a "significant" US-UK confrontation in 1861-62...

Best,

Well them critters like to show to stir the air when you are not looking. :D

Well the chickens are getting out of the coop and the weasels are about. Soon the foxes will be adding their teeth to the confrontations. :cool:
 
Dear dear. It's like watching a train-wreck: a competition of how incompetent people (in this case the British) can be (the railway, the Melbourne, et cetera). Learning that it happened IOTL too just gives the lie to those who periodically dismiss incompetence as ASB in various timelines.

You do a good job of showing Papineau as a charismatic man: the sort that one can just listen to and be swept away in following. I presume the route you're going down is a Québécois rebellion that aids the Union in its war effort, presumably leading to an independent République Québécoise (please excuse me if my French is wrong; it often is).

So far my prediction of the course of events involves more-or-less total British naval victory, but a failure to translate that into victory on land. So the Confederacy, with British trade and with the Union's blockade lifted, might last longer than OTL, but if the Union is intelligent (and I'm presuming, perhaps wrongly, that they will be) they'll recognise that the Confederacy has more striking power than the British, so they can simply hold off the British in the north while finishing off the Confederacy, then move their army north to present the British with the fait accompli that further fighting will result in defeat so they'd better give up.

Of course, human incompetence being what it is, I can't be certain that the Union won't go with some grand strike up north into Canada.

An interesting thing to note, perhaps, is the question of total war or, rather, that this isn't one. So even though war has formally been declared, Britain will be uncomfortable with actually fighting beside the Confederates. It seems to me a quite possible outcome that they will simply fight a bit on the border but not go on any grand offensives, since the Union presumably doesn't want a distraction from the civil war and the British presumably don't want to draw the huge Union army that they were so afraid of IOTL straight up into Canada.

Militarily, judging by your railway comments, it seems that southwestern Canada is lost if the Union decides to take it (though that decision is by no means certain), though the logistical problems in northern Canada and the poor state of much of the land there lead me to doubt the apparently popular idea that the Union would simply take the whole of Canada. But New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island and perhaps Labrador too are British enough and sufficiently easily reinforced that taking them would be more trouble than it was worth.

Judging by the several different assessments above, it's fairly easy to tell that I have very little idea how this is going to go except the very crudest points of the outcome (the Union wins, the Confederacy falls and the British lose). You've done very well at avoiding giving any hints whatsoever, though perhaps I wouldn't think that was your intention if I actually knew any considerable amount about OTL's American Civil War.
 

TFSmith121

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One "Fox" in particular....

Well them critters like to show to stir the air when you are not looking. :D

Well the chickens are getting out of the coop and the weasels are about. Soon the foxes will be adding their teeth to the confrontations. :cool:


Sorry, couldn't resist.

Best,
 

TFSmith121

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Thanks for the review; I appreciate it, because I'm really trying to avoid any

Dear dear. It's like watching a train-wreck: a competition of how incompetent people (in this case the British) can be (the railway, the Melbourne, et cetera). Learning that it happened IOTL too just gives the lie to those who periodically dismiss incompetence as ASB in various timelines.

You do a good job of showing Papineau as a charismatic man: the sort that one can just listen to and be swept away in following. I presume the route you're going down is a Québécois rebellion that aids the Union in its war effort, presumably leading to an independent République Québécoise (please excuse me if my French is wrong; it often is).

So far my prediction of the course of events involves more-or-less total British naval victory, but a failure to translate that into victory on land. So the Confederacy, with British trade and with the Union's blockade lifted, might last longer than OTL, but if the Union is intelligent (and I'm presuming, perhaps wrongly, that they will be) they'll recognise that the Confederacy has more striking power than the British, so they can simply hold off the British in the north while finishing off the Confederacy, then move their army north to present the British with the fait accompli that further fighting will result in defeat so they'd better give up.

Of course, human incompetence being what it is, I can't be certain that the Union won't go with some grand strike up north into Canada.

An interesting thing to note, perhaps, is the question of total war or, rather, that this isn't one. So even though war has formally been declared, Britain will be uncomfortable with actually fighting beside the Confederates. It seems to me a quite possible outcome that they will simply fight a bit on the border but not go on any grand offensives, since the Union presumably doesn't want a distraction from the civil war and the British presumably don't want to draw the huge Union army that they were so afraid of IOTL straight up into Canada.

Militarily, judging by your railway comments, it seems that southwestern Canada is lost if the Union decides to take it (though that decision is by no means certain), though the logistical problems in northern Canada and the poor state of much of the land there lead me to doubt the apparently popular idea that the Union would simply take the whole of Canada. But New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island and perhaps Labrador too are British enough and sufficiently easily reinforced that taking them would be more trouble than it was worth.

Judging by the several different assessments above, it's fairly easy to tell that I have very little idea how this is going to go except the very crudest points of the outcome (the Union wins, the Confederacy falls and the British lose). You've done very well at avoiding giving any hints whatsoever, though perhaps I wouldn't think that was your intention if I actually knew any considerable amount about OTL's American Civil War.


Thanks for the review; I truly appreciate it, because I'm really trying to avoid any "walkovers" and a critical audience is key to that...overall, your take is pretty close to mine, which is based on a fair amount of reading.

I'm going to try and "show, not tell" a fair amount in the next few chapters, but you're not far off - and the question of how the Francophone and Anglophone Canadians would react in a similar situation is key; obviously, we know how it played out historically (both the failure of the 1862 militia bill is historical, for example, as is the organization of the volunteer militia, which shows the range of Canadian political thought in the course of a single year, and so also gives something of the idea of the divisions within Canada) but of course the press of events in this situation would change some of that.

The events of 1837-38 and 1849, however, indicate how deep the divisions were...and the Papineaus (father and sons) were vital forces in Canadian politics, as were Dorrion and les rouges, as were Tache and the conservatives. And, for that matter, and to be fair, Denison and his brand of "empire loyalty," and the commercial focus of men like Abbott.

Andf of course, no one enjoys seeing their home become a battlefield, especially when that home is being (slowly, expensively, and at times painfully) built up into a functioning civil society with an integrated economy; I was trying to put some of that across with the conversation between Abbott and McCaul. The obvious significance of the Irish - both Catholic nationalism and Orange Order unionism - in the UK, US, and BNA in this period (less than 15 years since the Famine, remember) was something else I was trying to suggest here; more of that will come, of course, quite spectacularly, in upcoming chapters.

Really solid observation on the concept of total war; the ACW was for the historical combatants (more so for the rebels than the US, in fact, in terms of percentage of their population who were mobilized); but the various "overseas" conflicts by the European powers in this era were not, however.

They were generally fought by small, professional armies and navies, and (when available) various "colonial" or "imperial" forces. They were not fought by the nations in arms; that took until 1914 and afterward for the European powers, and even then - in the British case - the Dominions did not really engage in mass mobilization for overseas duty. Even the British mobilization for the 2nd South African War was limited to regulars and (some) volunteers, and the concept of short service volunteers for overseas service concept was (generally) something new for the UK, and (interestingly) was modified significantly in 1914 and afterward. The short service volunteers in 1854-55 for example, were generally limited to garrison duties. There's a reason the British were recruiting mercenaries in Europe in 1855.

Britain had tremendous political, economic, and military strength in the mid-Nineteenth Century, and could intervene (in limited numbers) almost anywhere in the world it chose; but those strengths were not infinite, and the existing breadth of the empire was actually a weakness in terms of pulling together a "reserve" expeditionary force; there was a reason Cardwell's reforms in the 1880s were required, after all.

And the point on the British distate for joint (as opposed to combined) operations is a good observation, historically, the British did not expect to fight alongside (much less under the command of) the CSA; their experience with the French in the Crimea and China makes that clear, and realistically, the British territories in the Western Hemisphere who have had far more pressing needs for troops in the event of a war with the US.

As far as the Americans go, the US, in turn, had very significant political, economic, and military strength in the mid-Nineteenth Century, that were somewhat latent, but could be taken advantage of in crisis; Paul Kennedy makes that point very clearly. Given the reality of the US mobilization in 1861, prior to the events suggested here, some - but not all of that - is no longer latent. I have two scenes coming up in the last sections of this chapter that lay out the realities of the correlation of forces.

Having said that, there was plenty of incompetence in how the US fought the (historical) ACW, and that will certainly be reflected here; as will some of the rebels' (even greater) incompetence.

Again, thanks for the reading, and the response.

Best,
 
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Thanks for the additional information and clarrifying things. I am looking forward to how many people can be proven to be complete idiots and incompetent in the face of reality. Too many from OTL and may be just as many ITTL.
 
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