Austria: Never Forget Thy Past

All of Carinthia, hense why Yugoslavia is mad even though really it's not a huge amount of large seeing as historically most of Carinthia went with Austria anyway.
 
Interesting.

Does this ATL Austria also have the Duchy of Styria (aka the OTL Slovene province and the Austrian State)?

How is Austria going to deal with currency? Will the Krone remain as Austria's currency?
 
I believe that at one time there was a proposal for establishing a dual monarchy with Czechoslovkia. Thus Karl would be a Emperor of both countries and each would have its own parliament.
 
Interesting.

Does this ATL Austria also have the Duchy of Styria (aka the OTL Slovene province and the Austrian State)?

How is Austria going to deal with currency? Will the Krone remain as Austria's currency?
It currently only has the Austrian State, however much of the Slovenian population is beginning to experience a similar longing to Austria's during the Interregnum as they grow increasingly unhappy with a government in Yugoslavia that seems to only serves the Serbs(for the record many of the other Slavic ethnicies in Yugoslavia have found that the deal they got isn't that great).

As for the Krone, yes it will return as the Austrian Currency.

I believe that at one time there was a proposal for establishing a dual monarchy with Czechoslovkia. Thus Karl would be a Emperor of both countries and each would have its own parliament.
The only times I know of that a Dual Monarchy was proposed between Austria and then Bohemia was during revolutionary periods in the 19th century. It's a little late for that now and even so I highly doubt Czechoslovkia would buy into it, that is to say Czechoslovkia as a whole wouldn't, however certain parts may...
 

Rockingham

Banned
The plebiscite in South Tirol is held with the world watching. As expected most of South Tirol votes to reunite with Austria. Italian speaking areas, like around Trentino, vote to remain in Italy. To many's surprise Italy does not contest the results.
Artistic license, I suppose;). This is an Italy after alll that is dissatisfied with what it got OTL, and somehow they tolerate this? Or have the French, Germans and British put "pressure" on Italy behind the scenes?

Certainly, Fascism will have an even larger boost then OTL.
Karl IV, with the support of the National Diet(the legislature), creates his styling. He styles himself His Imperial Highness, and well as comissioning the creation of a standard for Austria(see the first post). The Nation Diet symbolically accepts both these things on Christmas Day, the one year anniversary of Karl's coronation.
Austria is an Archduchy, IIRC? The title "imperial" in that case does not exactly fit......

To be honest, though, I find it implausible for Austria to accept the title of a mere Archduchy. Not when their next door neighbour, Hungary, at least claims to be a kingdom, an a state like Norway or Belgium also does so. It is a matter of national honour after all.... states like Luxembourg and Liechenstein claim the title of Grandduchy, and being seen as being on their level is not......fitting to what was once the Austrian Empire.

Of course, the region was historically part of the unit of the Archduchy.... I get the impression that the title will be temporary, at least?
 

maverick

Banned
I agree, a kingdom of Austria might be more appropiate for a man that was once Emperor and for a realm that once dominated Central Europe...and it would be cooler as well...

The problem I see for Austria is isolation...the Italians are pissed at them, the Germans would eventually want unification, the Czechs would be distrustful and the Hungarians and Yugoslavians...not very happy...

Would there be a Franco-Austrian alliance?

Another thought...Miklos Horthy could accuse Karl of Austria of neglecting and abandoning the Hungarian people, and maybe put a puppet prince on the throne to spite Karl...another interesting idea could be a war over the disputed land between the Austrians and Hungarians...
 
Actually I recall reading recently in a book that the proposal to establish a dual monarchy with Czechoslovkia came in the 1918-1919 time period. It had some support in the Austrian and Czech portions but for whatever reason never moved ahead. I believe that one of the reasons for some support in the Czech political establishment was to counter the possible threat from Germany and Hungary in the future.
 
Artistic license, I suppose;). This is an Italy after alll that is dissatisfied with what it got OTL, and somehow they tolerate this? Or have the French, Germans and British put "pressure" on Italy behind the scenes?

Certainly, Fascism will have an even larger boost then OTL.

Pressure

Austria is an Archduchy, IIRC? The title "imperial" in that case does not exactly fit......

To be honest, though, I find it implausible for Austria to accept the title of a mere Archduchy. Not when their next door neighbour, Hungary, at least claims to be a kingdom, an a state like Norway or Belgium also does so. It is a matter of national honour after all.... states like Luxembourg and Liechenstein claim the title of Grandduchy, and being seen as being on their level is not......fitting to what was once the Austrian Empire.

Of course, the region was historically part of the unit of the Archduchy.... I get the impression that the title will be temporary, at least?
Even as only Archdukes of Austria, the Habsburg were still addressed with His Imperial Highness.

First off I personally detest the idea and just verbal sound of the "Kingdom of Austria." It ignores centuries of carefully crafted Habsburg Mythology. As for the "Kingdom of Austria". Austria never was and Kingdom, and never will be a Kingdom. On the Habsburg line of thought, the Archduchy was well above any lowly Kingdom, hense why while reigning for 500 years as Holy Roman Emperors they never raised the Archduchy to a Kingdom, while they did raise their rival's the Hollenzollern's lands to the Kingdom of Prussia. This thought process can also be seen by the fact that Archduke of Austria preceeded all other of the Austrian Habsburgs' titles save Holy Roman Emperor. The Archduchy will likely be around until atleast WWII.

I agree, a kingdom of Austria might be more appropiate for a man that was once Emperor and for a realm that once dominated Central Europe...and it would be cooler as well...
See above

The problem I see for Austria is isolation...the Italians are pissed at them, the Germans would eventually want unification, the Czechs would be distrustful and the Hungarians and Yugoslavians...not very happy...

Would there be a Franco-Austrian alliance?
The Italians won't try to pull anything, the Crisis in Tirol made them look like the bad guys already, they don't need anymore bad PR.

The Germans are going to have enough post war problems and more to worry about then circumventing the Treaty of Versailles and uniting with an Austria that doesn't want to be part of Germany.

The Czechs are the Czechs, they distrust everyone.

The Magyars and the Serbs have their own problems to deal with as well.

As for France, Austria may become a friendly face there.
Another thought...Miklos Horthy could accuse Karl of Austria of neglecting and abandoning the Hungarian people, and maybe put a puppet prince on the throne to spite Karl...another interesting idea could be a war over the disputed land between the Austrians and Hungarians...
Horthy wants Burgenland, but he's not willing to risk his dictatorship over it, or for that matter install a puppet Prince who could possibly have his own designs on power. He's more interested in the other former Hungarian lands.

Actually I recall reading recently in a book that the proposal to establish a dual monarchy with Czechoslovkia came in the 1918-1919 time period. It had some support in the Austrian and Czech portions but for whatever reason never moved ahead. I believe that one of the reasons for some support in the Czech political establishment was to counter the possible threat from Germany and Hungary in the future.
Well there won't be any Austro-Czech union before WWII, I haven't ruled out a post war Union. At the most some of the German border lands may join Austria..
 
"Mmmm, Hapsburgs"

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Perhaps there might be a coup in Hungary and the nobility appeals to Karl to take the throne and thus recreate the empire. I believe that the slovenians would rather be part of Austria thanYugoslavia.
 
Perhaps there might be a coup in Hungary and the nobility appeals to Karl to take the throne and thus recreate the empire. I believe that the slovenians would rather be part of Austria than Yugoslavia.
First sorry I haven't a new part in a few days, RL is keeping me very busy, but that will be over tomorrow.

Second, you will actually see the beginning of that in the next installment, I haven't written much of it yet, but the beginning of resistance to the Serb domination of Yugoslavia by the other Southern Slavs will shortly begin.
 
The Year of Complaints
(January 25, 1921 - December 25, 1921)


January 25, 1921
Elections for the National Diet in Austria are held. The Christian Social Party, gains a 60% majority with Johann Schober becoming Kanzler. The Social Democratic Workers' Party of Austria gains 39% of the Diet, with radical leftists gaining roughly 1%.

January 26, 1921
The Archduke appoints the 200 members of the Crown Diet, the upper Austrian Legislature similar to the British House of Lords. Most of the nobles appointed are technically non-affiliated; however both the CSP and SDWPA attempt to garner favor with them. Maximilian Eugen von Habsburg, the Archduke’s brother is appointed Crown Speaker, leader of the Crown Diet.

March 10, 1921
Archduke Karl and a pregnant Archduchess Zita are invited to visit the United States on an official state visit by new American President Warren G. Harding in late July, early August. Harding hopes to rebuild bridges that will make so that America never has to enter another European war.

April 16, 1921
The Communist Party of Czechoslovakia is founded. The appearance of Communism in Czechoslovakia fans the flames of fear in Bohemian/German Industrialists and the common person. Political clubs begin to form in German dominated towns and cities revolving around government failures and the threat of Communism.

April 24, 1921
Liechtenstein withdraws from the treaty in which it gave Switzerland the right to represent it in diplomatic affairs and which promised it protection by the Swiss military.

May 1, 1921
Liechtenstein enters into a diplomatic, military, and customs union with the Archduchy of Austria. Liechtenstein had been closely tied to Austria for the vast majority of its history and many observers had said something was likely to restore the bonds between the two nations following the beginning of steps toward stability that Austria was taking. Also the Royal Family of Liechtenstein still resided in Vienna and many historians are quick to point out the effects living there had.

June 5, 1921
The first series of bills passed by the Legislature arrive on the Archdukes desk, all of which are signed. The most significant of these is a financial bill which creates the Imperial Reserve, a large centralized national bank based on that of the American Federal Reserve, to regulate the Austrian currency, which the bill restores the Krone as. It also creates a cabinet level position to oversee the Imperial Reserve.

July 26, 1921
Archduke Karl and Archduchess Zita arrive in the United States in the Port of New York. From there they go by rail to WashingtonDC where they are greeted by the American President at a white tie affair in the Whitehouse.

August 1, 1921
The Archduke and Archduchess visit Philadelphia and then much of rural LehighCounty known as Pennsylvanian Dutch Country. The area is heavily populated by the descendents of German immigrants from the mid 18th and early 19th centuries.

August 2, 1921
Archduchess Zita goes into labor and 6 hours later gives birth to a baby girl in the Austrian Consulate in Philadelphia. She is named Emeline after the wife of then Vice President, William Cameron Sproul. Both Vice President and Mrs. Sproul had been traveling with the Archduke and Archduchess while in Pennsylvania, as the Vice President had been the State’s Governor before joining the Harding ticket. The Archduchess and the Vice President’s wife had struck up a strong friendship in their short time together. The birth was cover extensive by the American Press, and a many Americans especially in the North East view Emeline, and by extension her family as their own.

August 10, 1921
The Archduke arrives in Savannah, Georgia where he bares witness to an elderly African-American man being severely beaten for approaching the Archduke. The incident shocks and horrifies him and he cuts his visit to the Southern United States short, returning to Pennsylvania two days later. The Archduke is so upset over the incident that a member of his personal staff is sent to find the man, however he cannot be found.

August 16, 1921
Peter I of Yugoslavia dies; he is succeeded by his son

August 17, 1921
The Archduke, Archduchess, and Emeline leave America via the Port of Boston for Amsterdam where they will then go by rail to Vienna.

August 18, 1921
Signs of economic success begin to show as a result of the efforts by the Imperial Reserve. Inflation has begun to slow down, and hyperinflation has been held off. This stands in stark contrast to Germany where inflation continues to rise.

August 25, 1921
Karl IV, Archduchess Zita, and their new child return to Schönbrunn, the SummerPalace in Vienna.

August 26, 1921
Rising food prices spark major riots throughout Germany, but especially in Bavaria. Rioters demand o know why Austria can control their economy but Germany cannot. Shortly after the major rioting begins, Matthias Erzberger, the former German Minister of Finance is assassinated at a spa in the Black Forest. All these events happening in one day cause the German government to declare martial law.

September 15, 1921
The Government of Miklós Horthy in Hungary makes formal territorial claims on Slovakia, Transylvania, and parts of Yugoslavia, stating that Hungary was unfairly ripped apart and that historic boundaries should have been respected by the Allies after the Great War.

October 19, 1921
Portuguese Prime Minister António Joaquim Granjo is assassinated in Lisbon by Portuguese Monarchists. Portugal descends into a three-way civil war between divided a Republican front united by their hatred of the Monarchy, but divided on everything else, Manuelists, who supported former King Manuel II, and the Miguelists, who supported Duarte Nuno, Duke of Braganza.

November 1, 1921
The Greek Army captures Ankara from the TurkishRepublic, the Turks shortly there after sue for peace.

November 4, 1921
Peace talks for the Greco-Turkish War begin in Greek occupied Constantinople under the observance of the British, France, Italians, and representatives from the Bolsheviks in Russia.

November 25, 1921
The various southern Slavic ethnicities in Yugoslavia begin to see that the Government of Alexander I will be nothing like his father’s. Alexander’s government is militantly pro-Serb, having removed most non-Serbs from high level positions. This especially annoys the Slovenians, Croats, and ethnic Albanians.

December 1, 1921
Riots over food prices once again breakout in Germany, however this time they are centered in Brandenburg where many reactionary Prussians are annoyed that once again Austria has managed to get its house in order but Germany cannot.

December 25, 1921
Christmas Day, Karl IV has sat on the Austrian Throne for 2 years now.


Questions? Comments? Concerns?
 
What I wonder is what would have happen if The Royal Austrian Army liberated Hungary form the Communist controled government that rule Hungary after WW1. This would prevent the invasion by Romania and the Austrians might be seen as liberators rather than enemies.
 
What I wonder is what would have happen if The Royal Austrian Army liberated Hungary form the Communist controled government that rule Hungary after WW1. This would prevent the invasion by Romania and the Austrians might be seen as liberators rather than enemies.
 
Death, War, and That Damned Hungarian
(January, 22, 1922 – December 30, 1922)


January 22, 1922
Pope Benedict XV dies in Rome. The Archduke and his family along with every other Catholic Royal Family in Europe travel to the Italian capital to pay their respects and attend the funeral. A 30 day period of mourning is declared in Austria.

February 6, 1922
Achille Ratti succeeds Pope Benedict XV as Pope Pius XI in Rome following election by the College of Cardinals as the 259th Pope.

March 9, 1922
Monarchists in the Portuguese Civil War end their infighting, Manuel II agrees to recognize Duarte Nuno as his universal heir assuming he has no male children to supercede the Duke of Braganza. The Portuguese Civil War now pits a united Monarchist Front against a Republican Front that is plagued with internal division and conflict.

April 2, 1922
Archduke Karl IV comes down with what doctors call just a common cold saying that he should get over in a few days.

April 5, 1922
The Archduke’s condition worsens, with doctors realizing he has like come down with pneumonia. Karl IV becomes bedridden.

April 10, 1922
Karl IV, Archduke of Austria, dies at age 34 of pneumonia in the Austrian Winter Palace, Hofburg. His last words were reported to be, “Austria, never forget thy past.” He is survived by his pregnant wife, and seven children. His nine year old son Franz Joseph Otto, succeeds him as Archduke, with the now Archduchess Dowager acting as his Regent until he reaches adulthood.

May 10, 1922
Nine year old Franz Joseph Otto is crowned Franz Joseph II, Archduke of Austria at a coronation ceremony in Saint Stephen’s Cathedral in Vienna attended by various European Heads of State. The Habsburg Monarchy decides that all Emperors of Austria shall also count numerically as Archdukes of Austria as they all held the title. This becomes an example of that legendary ability for the Habsburgs to craft and build an entire almost mythology around themselves.

May 26, 1922
The Bohemian National Party is founded in Czechoslovakia from political clubs in German dominated regions of the country. The party’s goals are for the Czechoslovakian government to stop, as they see it, discriminating as against ethnic Germans, grant them greater autonomy, or to be allowed to join as part of either Germany or Austria.

June 24, 1922
Walter Rathenau, the German Foreign Minister and a German Industrialist, is assassinated. German authorities believe that the same group who assassinated former Minister of Finance, Matthias Erzberger a year earlier, is also responsible for the assassination of the Foreign Minister. The assassination has repercussions outside of Germany. In Czechoslovakia, the BNP, which is largely funded by Bohemian Industrialists, begins to back away from any unification with Germany ideas fearing it is no safer for them in Germany then it is for them in Czechoslovakia if German Industrials are being assassinated.

June 25, 1922
Riots once again break out in Germany following what appears to be a break down in law and order. Once again the riots revolve around food prices and inflation, however this time Britain and France prepare to take action if the Republican government of Germany cannot get the situation under control. The riots are focused once again in Bavaria and Brandenburg, however in Saxony, leftists attempt to seize control and declare the Socialist Republic of Saxony.

July 13, 1922
Portuguese Monarchists who had been biding their time in Northern areas of Portugal begin to push toward Lisbon after the Republican Front collapses. The Republicans, shortly there before, had begun fighting among themselves with the Communists and hardliner Leftists versus the more moderate and Classical Liberal Republicans.

August 7, 1922
The German Army forcibly puts down the price riots in Bavaria and Brandenburg after over a month of chaos and lawlessness. Martial Law is declared throughout the country.

August 16, 1922
The Christian Union, the legitimist Monarchist party in Hungary, begins a coup against Miklós Horthy to force him to allow a Habsburg to take the throne.

August 18, 1922
In Hungary, “Regent” Miklós Horthy has now been under house arrest for two days as pro-Habsburg forces inside his government and country begin plans to approach Maximilian Eugen von Habsburg, Austrian Crown Speaker, and uncle of Archduke Franz Joseph II of Austria with the Crown of Saint Stephen. Fearing he will be jailed and tried for treason if the Monarchy is actually restored, Horthy makes a plea to peacefully turn over power to Maxmilian Eugen. To this end he is allowed back to his government office where he immediately summons loyal members of the Hungarian Army.

August 19, 1922
A coup by the Hungarian Army against Pro-Habsburg forces reinstates Miklós Horthy as Head of State. He orders all Legitimists to be tried for High Treason and the border with Austria sealed. Unfortunately for him, his plans take too long to go into effect and by the time they are carried out the Christian Union and their supporters have all fled to Austria where they are given refugee status by Archduchess Zita and Kanzler Schober in Burgenland.

September 9, 1922
The Treaty of Constantinople is signed ending the Greco-Turkish War. Besides ceding all of Ottoman Europe including Constantinople, Pontus, and parts of Asia Minor including Bursa to Greece, Republican Turkey also agrees to give up any claims on Cyprus. Greece in the coming years will heavily regulate who can and cannot enter/leave the Black Sea.

October 23, 1922
The last members of the “government” of the Socialist Republic of Saxony are captured by the German Army. Germany for now is calm and quiet.

October 31, 1922
In Italy, Benito Mussolini becomes the youngest Prime Minister in the nation’s history. Mussolini rules via a coalition of Nationalists, Fascists, and Conservatives. He, himself is a militant Italian Nationalist and desires to rebuild the Roman Empire. In his first speech as Prime Minister he shocks the world by renewing Italian claims on Tirol, Yugoslavia, and parts of Greece.

November 19, 1922
Angered over the continued Serb domination of Alexander I’s government riots break out in Croatia.

November 20, 1922
Following the Croats’ lead, Slovenes and ethnic Albanians also begin to riot.

December 17, 1922
Archduchess Zita gives birth to her eighth child whom she names Leopold.

December 25, 1922
Christmas Day, three years since the Restoration occurred in Austria. In neighboring Yugoslavia, the government has still failed to pacify riots by the Croats, Slovenes, and ethnic Albanians.

December 30, 1922
The Russian Civil War official ends. The Russian Communists unify with Ukraine, Belarus, and Transcaucasia to form the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The “union” is totally dominated by the Russians, led by Vladimir Lenin.


When asked about what he remembered about his first year as Archduke of Austria, some years later, Franz Joseph II of Austria was reported to have replied, “Death, War, and that Damned Hungarian.”


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