8th century

  1. WI: Constitutional Caliphate?

    OTL, In April 744 Yazid iii mentioned he would implement the following policies: Not to build any buildings of stone or brick, nor to dig any canals. (Referring to palaces and private gardens) Not to hoard wealth. Not to give wealth to wives or children. To transfer wealth from one province to...

  2. 744; The Alids, A Better Caliphate
    Threadmarks: Revolution

    In mid 744, after the assassination of Walid ii, at the site of the prophet's mother's grave (alAbwa), the majority of Banu Hashim, including the Abbasids: Ibrahim al imam, Saffah and AlMansur, all pledged fealty to Muhammad ibn Abdullah anNafs azZakiyyah. The Abbasids won the loyalty of...
  3. dachi

    The Armenian Lives Or Basilieus Leo V Survives His Assassination
    Threadmarks: The Christmas Miracle

    On the splendid day of the Lord to celebrate Christmas, Basilieus Leo wished to spend the day in the church of St. Stephen without any guards, yet at the behest of his son and Co-Basilieus Constantine, who urged his father Leo to reconsider and take with him a contingent of guards even inside...

  4. Perfectus Romae (What if Rome didn't fall?)

    So in this timeline, Aurelian survives the assassination attempt by some of his officers. Executing those responsible, he launches campaigns in Germania but is killed a year in by a plague. Aurelian is succeeded by Tacitus, who finished the wars of his predecessor but was killed in a battle...
  5. TheWitheredStriker

    WI: The ERE never becomes iconoclast.

    I'm honestly surprised to see that this PoD seems to be so rarely discussed; the majority of threads are about iconoclasm completely succeeding, sometimes even in Western Europe. But anyway: Suppose Leo III Syrus is successfully overthrown during his reign, either by Agallianos Kontoskeles in...

  6. What if the Umayyads didn't escape to Spain?

    During the collapse of the Umayyad Caliphate, Abd al-Rahman I escaped to Spain and the Umayyad dynasty ruled over the Islamic Iberia until the 11th century. What if he wasn't able to escape? Would the Abbasids be able to take Spain? Would a local noble or general take over? Would a North...

  7. WI: Umayyad victory at the Battle of Covadonga

    What if the Umayyads had won the Battle of Covadonga? How might things have changed?

  8. WI: No An Lushan Rebellion

    Let's say that, for one reason or another, the An Lushan Rebellion never happened. Maybe An Lushan choked on a dumpling, or maybe he just never decides to rebel. What's more important to me than the why is the consequences for China and the wider world. So, what would happen if An Lushan didn't...
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