Europa Universalis III

[Iamwinterborn]

Originally Posted by Gandavien

Is it worth getting EUIII? I've had a look at the game, and I'm considering buying it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...7005975&sr=8-1

Hm... $5 + shipping and handling on the one hand...

and no fun and missing out on the perfect tl generator on the other...

[Ghost 88]

Originally Posted by Iamwinterborn

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...7005975&sr=8-1

Hm... $5 + shipping and handling on the one hand...

and no fun and missing out on the perfect tl generator on the other...

Make sure that it is not used as you can not register a CD that has already been registered. This will stop you from getting much help from Paradox and IIRC you will not even be able to download patches.


Those are good prices if they are new but get a guarantee.

Go to paradoxplaza.com and try the demo if it is still available.

[Iamwinterborn]

Originally Posted by Ghost 88

Make sure that it is not used as you can not register a CD that has already been registered. This will stop you from getting much help from Paradox and IIRC you will not even be able to download patches.


Those are good prices if they are new but get a guarantee.

Go to paradoxplaza.com and try the demo if it is still available.

Yeah. only buy new. I would reccomend the limited edition if you can afford it (around $40-$50). It comes with a manual and guide, as well as giant map of the world with all the province labeled... It's awesome!

Otherwise CDROM USA appears to be selling new copies of EU3 for under 6 dollars.

[Krall]

Hey, I have a question on EU3.

You know how provinces have a limit on the number of men can be stationed there at any one time [so if you put a ridiculous number of men in one province they'll start dying]? How do you find out a province's 'man limit'?

[Iamwinterborn]

Originally Posted by Krall

Hey, I have a question on EU3.

You know how provinces have a limit on the number of men can be stationed there at any one time [so if you put a ridiculous number of men in one province they'll start dying]? How do you find out a province's 'man limit'?

FROM WIKI: (Though it should be in your manual)

EDIT: On second thought, ignore all of that below, unless you want a bunch of dry old facts that are not needed as they are already calculated for you ingame. Just left-click the province and the third item under population and growth is the "Supply Limit". That number is how many you can place in a province without suffering attrition. (Note it is not how many YOU can put in, but how many CAN be in. So your allies units also count)
/EDIT

Basic Formula
Supply Base = 1 + .2 * Tax Base[1] [2] + (Land Fort Bonus)
Land Fort Bonus Table:
Land Fort LevelLand Fort Bonus1.52131.5425364

Examples:

• Tax Base=1, Land Fort=0 Supply Base=1.2
• Tax Base=1, Land Fort=1 Supply Base=1.7
• Tax Base=1, Land Fort=2 Supply Base=2.2
• Tax Base=1, Land Fort=5 Supply Base=4.2

[edit] Owned Province

Supply Limit = 5 x Supply Base[edit] Allied or Military Access Province

Supply Limit = 4 x Supply Base[edit] Controlled Province

Supply Limit = 3 x Supply Base[edit] Besieged Province

Supply Limit = 2 x Supply Base[edit] Enemy(Or Unowned) Province

Supply Limit = Supply Base[edit] Other Modifiers

The Supply Limit is further modified by:

-X for weather where X is the same as the Attrition bonus for that weather type
+ the General's maneuver skill

[Locke]

Thread necromancy, intitiate!

Originally Posted by Locke

I want more!

After getting a new graphics card, my EUIII is now operational. I've only ahd it for like 2 days, but I've started a game as Venice in 1700. I've taken Parma, Mantua, and I'm allied with Genoa, the Papal States and Tuscany. I've even managed to establish a colony in Louisiana, and was planning to expand further, but the French cut me off.

I'm also trying to expand into Patagonia and Western Africa, which is uncolonized, but they (the natives) are incredibly hostile, and my transports cant take my troops that far. Every time I try and ally with Portugal, France, or Spain (so I can put my ships in their ports), it says "impossible".

Because of my succesful wars (I've gotten a 100% warscore every single time) I am currently ranekd as #4 verall, with 30 something prestige. Is that good?

[Ghost 88]

Originally Posted by Locke

Thread necromancy, intitiate!



After getting a new graphics card, my EUIII is now operational. I've only ahd it for like 2 days, but I've started a game as Venice in 1700. I've taken Parma, Mantua, and I'm allied with Genoa, the Papal States and Tuscany. I've even managed to establish a colony in Louisiana, and was planning to expand further, but the French cut me off.

I'm also trying to expand into Patagonia and Western Africa, which is uncolonized, but they (the natives) are incredibly hostile, and my transports cant take my troops that far. Every time I try and ally with Portugal, France, or Spain (so I can put my ships in their ports), it says "impossible".

Because of my succesful wars (I've gotten a 100% warscore every single time) I am currently ranekd as #4 verall, with 30 something prestige. Is that good?

On Allies: page 71 of the manual explains alliances. There are two situations were an aliance will always be impossible. If either of you are a vassal,in this case only the "Overlord" of the Vassalization my enter into alliances with the Vassal. The other is if either of you are the "junior" party of a Personal Union, in which case only the "Senior" member can form alliances.
I believe in the early 1700s Spain and Portugal may well be in a PU with Portugal being junior.
Of course if you are a vassal or junior partner in a Personal Union no alliance is possible.

[Rubberduck3y6]

Originally Posted by Locke

Thread necromancy, intitiate!



After getting a new graphics card, my EUIII is now operational. I've only ahd it for like 2 days, but I've started a game as Venice in 1700. I've taken Parma, Mantua, and I'm allied with Genoa, the Papal States and Tuscany. I've even managed to establish a colony in Louisiana, and was planning to expand further, but the French cut me off.

I'm also trying to expand into Patagonia and Western Africa, which is uncolonized, but they (the natives) are incredibly hostile, and my transports cant take my troops that far. Every time I try and ally with Portugal, France, or Spain (so I can put my ships in their ports), it says "impossible".

Because of my succesful wars (I've gotten a 100% warscore every single time) I am currently ranekd as #4 verall, with 30 something prestige. Is that good?

I think you only need military access from a country to be able to use their ports, which if you've got good relations with the country they should grant.

[Krall]

I think that NPC (Non-Player Countries) can only have 4 alliances at any one time, so that might stop you from allying with the relevant countries. I'd suggest just getting military access instead, much easier.

Oh, and if you're playing In Nomine (this may apply to Napoleon's Ambition too, but I bought both expansions at the same time so I don't know) then your relations with a country aren't everything when deciding whether or not they'll ally with you/grant you military access/whatever. There's also trust, which is shown by a little phrase that appears on the window/bar/whatever that is that pops up when you click on another country. It can range from things like "They don't trust us" or "They trust us to up hold our bargins" to things like "They trust us implicitly".

I was playing as the Byzantine Empire and I managed to get Montenegro to trust me very much, meaning they were all too willing to accept my offer of annexation. I got their trust up by helping them quell rebellions in their country and siding with them whenever they declared war on someone else.

[Locke]

Thanks all, I figured it out. Access to Spain really comes in handy. However, I've seen some wierd things lately. Persia has set up a colony in West Africa....and so did Japan. WTF? Then I saw that Austria had not only set up colonies in Patagonia, but they also set up colonies on Victoria Island....on the west coast of North America.

Being allied with the Papal States is a good thing too, cause they decided to get rid of a few countries in Italy (), and that allowed me to go to war without a casus belli.

However, my colonial expansion seems to be draining me, so I think I'm going to have to stop soon. I'm losing about a hundred ducats a year.

[Saladan]

Yeah I just recently conquered a massive portion of the Timurad Empire and after I annexed it I can't get troops from it. Is there anything that changes this?

[Krall]

Originally Posted by Saladan

Yeah I just recently conquered a massive portion of the Timurad Empire and after I annexed it I can't get troops from it. Is there anything that changes this?

I think if the province is a core province of anyone (it can be one of your cores or another country's cores, it doesn't matter) then it can produce troops. If it is not anyone's core province then it cannot. It's a ridiculous rule that makes no sense.

You also need money and manpower, but I'm sure you knew that already.

[Locke]

I have a question: about a year ago, Switzerland, through a series of actions that I had absolutely nothing to do with, declared war on France, Savoy, Spain, and me (Venice) (for some reason). Well, we (I) kicked their asses, and I got half of Switzerland, they paid me 50 ducats, and they became my vassal.

Now, even though their my vassal, my relations with them are -200, and I can't figure it out. Also, I had a 100% warscore, yet the most I can ever get out of someone in tribute is 50 ducats. Does anybody know anything about this?

[Ofaloaf]

Originally Posted by Locke

Now, even though their my vassal, my relations with them are -200, and I can't figure it out. Also, I had a 100% warscore, yet the most I can ever get out of someone in tribute is 50 ducats. Does anybody know anything about this?

Are you and Switzerland sharing the same religion, or are they Protestant and you Catholic (or some other mismatch)? That could partially account for the poor relations, at least.

The 50 ducats thing I always attributed to the AI's horrid budgeting. Seriously, they never save any money- I doubt they have more than 50 ducats to spare.

[Parsleymagnet]

Originally Posted by Locke

I have a question: about a year ago, Switzerland, through a series of actions that I had absolutely nothing to do with, declared war on France, Savoy, Spain, and me (Venice) (for some reason). Well, we (I) kicked their asses, and I got half of Switzerland, they paid me 50 ducats, and they became my vassal.

Now, even though their my vassal, my relations with them are -200, and I can't figure it out. Also, I had a 100% warscore, yet the most I can ever get out of someone in tribute is 50 ducats. Does anybody know anything about this?

Have you been diploannexing any other vassals? That really hurts relations with other vassals. As far as the 50 ducats thing, does the arrow turn grey when you try to demand any more? If so, that means they have no more gold at all. As far as I've seen, most European nations rarely keep many ducats in reserve, whereas African and New World nations have thousands of ducats. I think it's because the AI has enormous income but little to nothing to spend it on, and it simulates how colonial powers (Spain in particular) plundered the native empires for every bit of gold they were worth, or it could just be a bug.

[Iamwinterborn]

So my game is going swimmingly, it's 1565:



Nothing wrong with this game, Britain and Spain are the two top colonisers, and France has a gew scattered colonies.

As Russia I turn my attention eastward now... Siberia calls, and I wish to have several ports on the eastern shores to begin my inevitable showdown with Japan for control of the seas. Korea was inherited by Ming awhile ago. Persia and the Ottoman Empire are both growing strong.

Naples controls the Italian peninsula, except for Roma, which is controlled by the ever-stubborn Papal State.

France is beginning to blob it's way into Europe.


So why am I posting? See next post-

[Iamwinterborn]

WHAT THE F---? It's now 1598!



What just happened?

First, Fez inherits an arabic state on the other side of africa, though soon loses part of it... to an african country also on west coast?

The Ottomans capture Roma.

The French invade Italy and only take one province after maybe 1 month of war in which they suffer almost no losses.

And Persia is starting to make me cautious acting in their sphere of influence.

The Ottomans as usualy are conquering the Balkans... and even invaded Sweden for a time. Yes, sweden.


Scandinavia has been formed.


And most importantly... the East. WTF?

[Parsleymagnet]

The lighter blue is Tibet... what's that medium blue, some Mongol remnant that made it big?

[Trotsky]

Can't wait to get a computer that will actually let me play this game. Oh, it works mostly alright on this one...after an hour of waiting to get onto the main menu, and then another stretch just to get into the game. And for the most part malfunctioning while in menu-load because it takes fucking forever to crunch those numbers on a 1.5 gb RAM system with Vista.

[Venice]

So, can anyone tell me how to play this game correctly? I'm getting it for Christmas, and I'm not sure how to play it...