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Old March 19th, 2009, 07:43 PM
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Nice to see this going again. Of course, it also makes me feel guilty for still leaving my own TL in limbo...
Cheers, old boy. I think you've been doing more work than I have, though!

I'm currently reading EdT's Fight and Be Right, and feeling thoroughly ashamed that I don't know enough about French governmental procedure during this period - I get it all second-hand from books about the French Army and her officers!
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Old March 19th, 2009, 07:58 PM
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Interesting... a tad bit unusual a surname for a Swede, but only unusual, not unlikely.
You at least have managed to update your TL in the last months.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 08:07 PM
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Interesting... a tad bit unusual a surname for a Swede, but only unusual, not unlikely.
Whew!
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You at least have managed to update your TL in the last months.
I think it's excess energy from the last few weeks finally spilling into doing something else productive than the other stuff I've been up to.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 08:37 PM
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Whew!
It implies that Tomas Andersen's ancestors came from Denmark or Norway, but, well, that does happen.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 09:53 PM
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It implies that Tomas Andersen's ancestors came from Denmark or Norway, but, well, that does happen.
Why not just make him a Dane?
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Old March 19th, 2009, 10:00 PM
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It implies that Tomas Andersen's ancestors came from Denmark or Norway, but, well, that does happen.
My ancestors are actually Norwegian, so that would make more sense.

I believe I understand P's confusion: for some reason, in Britain we think of -sen names being Swedish, even though I know from research that actually -sen names are Dano-Norwegian and Swedish names are the more mundane -son or -sson.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 10:13 PM
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My ancestors are actually Norwegian, so that would make more sense.

I believe I understand P's confusion: for some reason, in Britain we think of -sen names being Swedish, even though I know from research that actually -sen names are Dano-Norwegian and Swedish names are the more mundane -son or -sson.
Aye, this pretty much sums me up. I'm pleased to learn that the error is about the least severe I've made in this TL!
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Old March 20th, 2009, 02:21 PM
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Aye, this pretty much sums me up. I'm pleased to learn that the error is about the least severe I've made in this TL!
I'd go so far as to say that it isn't even an error. To be an error, it'd have to be, well, factually wrong, I guess. There were Swedes named Andersen in 1914 (that their father, or their father's father, or his father, might not have been Swedish wouldn't be something Major Holtz would know about), and some of them probably moved to Germany.
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Old March 24th, 2009, 11:16 PM
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I'd go so far as to say that it isn't even an error. To be an error, it'd have to be, well, factually wrong, I guess. There were Swedes named Andersen in 1914 (that they father, or their father's father, or his father, might not have been Swedish wouldn't be something Major Holtz would know about), and some of them probably moved to Germany.
Excellent! Aught that makes me look good is good.

Hang on. I can type aught without Firefox grouching, but owt gets frowns? Bah. Anyway, apologies for the delay of several days since the last. As those following my self-indulgent whining in NPC may know, it's these anti-depressants increasing my apathy. Excuses and apologies out of the way, here's an update and a (reposted?) map so you don't get too lost in Franco-Belgic-Luxembourgian geography.

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…considerable devastation and confusion. Although measures were in place to combat chlorine gas to at least some degree, any exposed flesh was harmed by this new chemical, and soldiers inevitably retreated in the face of it. The sole saving grace from the point of view of the French was the longevity of the chemical, for it hindered the Germans from making effective defences on account of having to continue wearing their chemical retardants.

The Briey Army Group was at first taken aback by the German offensive of March 5th. However, Noël Édouard, vicomte de Curières de Castelnau, proved in the end to be adequate to the challenge, marshalling his subordinate army commanders. Despite this, serious flaws were exposed in the intelligence gathering apparatus of the French Army, and Joffre’s subsequent reorganisation can be traced to this, as we shall see. The initial failure of the French Army’s intelligence operations were also reflected on the ground, although this was not to their eventual detriment.

The first German attack was to the west of Thionville, and was a devastating success. The utilisation of mustard and chlorine gas, in both canisters and – intermittently – shells thrown by artillery, led to a complete collapse along the frontage of 14th and 28th Divisions, situated respectively on the left flank of 2nd Army and the right of 3rd Army. This collapse opened a gaping hole in the centre of the Briey Army Group, and led to panicked scenes at De Castelnau’s headquarters at Etain. Happily for the French the use of multiple types of gas, although initially causing a terrible slaughter on the infantry in the front line and their supporting units, also hindered the German advance. As a result, by midday on 6th March, 17th Division of the Briey Army Group’s Reserve, had aligned itself with the survivors of 14th and 28th Divisions slightly north of Briey, and stopped the first German attack.

Nonetheless, some 18,000 French soldiers had been killed or wounded on but the first day of this defensive action. A defensive action, moreover, against an attack only ever intended as diversionary. However, by 9th March de Castelnau was sufficiently confident to report to Victor Michel that the German offensive had been blunted. But the worst was yet to come…
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Old August 9th, 2009, 09:52 AM
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What's the status on this?
There's probably not going to be any movement today, but in the next few weeks I hope to get back up to speed. Fingers crossed!
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Old August 15th, 2010, 08:04 AM
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Now more seriously: any chance of this continuing? Will Germans able to take any industrial region of France? What about U-boot warfare? Will Russians be able to take Przemysl? Etc.


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Old August 15th, 2010, 11:23 AM
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Sorry, man. Things are pretty much on indefinite hiatus for the foreseeable future.
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