It's obvious that the arrival on the Russian battlefield was a shock to the Germans. It's reasonably well known that they were tempted to copy it, but out of further study the Panther was evolved.
But, why did the Russians put up with the outdated tanks e.g. Valentine that the British were sending them!? It seems very plausible to me, that Stalin in his normal forthright manner, could have cabled Churchill complaining about the comparative standard. And for Churchill to reply requesting a couple of examples to study. But Stalin stalled on sending any in a reverse lend-lease, instead insisted that they stay in Russia but would accept a delegation to visit a tank factory and meet with the designers.
So a delegation, including Martel, was sent - before Pearl Harbor (by aircraft via the Middle-East & Persia), and began a tour of a Russian Tank factory - wasn't there one just outside Moscow? At first the British looked with derision - at the build quality, but slowly it dawned on them, the basis of the effectiveness of the T-34.
Back in Britain inter-departmental arguements erupted over what features to incorporate, who would produce it, and what would it replace. But with Churchill's backing, Britain's tank production took a qualitative leap - the Churchill tank was quickly (late '42) superceded by the Black Prince - but with a bigger engine. And after further updates of Russian tank battle experience - the Centurian made its appearance in '43.
Any ideas what effects this would have had on Anglo-German tank battles. For example in Tunisa, and especially Normandy where British armoured formations consist of Centurians, Comets and Black Princes!??
You'll notice that I have opted for an accelerated tank development, rather than a westernised T-34 design.
Comments
But, why did the Russians put up with the outdated tanks e.g. Valentine that the British were sending them!? It seems very plausible to me, that Stalin in his normal forthright manner, could have cabled Churchill complaining about the comparative standard. And for Churchill to reply requesting a couple of examples to study. But Stalin stalled on sending any in a reverse lend-lease, instead insisted that they stay in Russia but would accept a delegation to visit a tank factory and meet with the designers.
So a delegation, including Martel, was sent - before Pearl Harbor (by aircraft via the Middle-East & Persia), and began a tour of a Russian Tank factory - wasn't there one just outside Moscow? At first the British looked with derision - at the build quality, but slowly it dawned on them, the basis of the effectiveness of the T-34.
Back in Britain inter-departmental arguements erupted over what features to incorporate, who would produce it, and what would it replace. But with Churchill's backing, Britain's tank production took a qualitative leap - the Churchill tank was quickly (late '42) superceded by the Black Prince - but with a bigger engine. And after further updates of Russian tank battle experience - the Centurian made its appearance in '43.
Any ideas what effects this would have had on Anglo-German tank battles. For example in Tunisa, and especially Normandy where British armoured formations consist of Centurians, Comets and Black Princes!??
You'll notice that I have opted for an accelerated tank development, rather than a westernised T-34 design.
Comments