Yellowstone Super Volcano

Yellowstone has long been known to be volcanicly active. However, it wasn't until the last few decades, that we found out just how active it is. For years scientists were puzzled because they couldn't find any cauldera (the familiar volcano shape we all know) in the landscape. It wasn't until NASA conducted its early satellite mapping experiments, and a helpful technician thought it might be nice to pass on some of the aerial images to park officials, that it was realised that Yellowstond itself is basically the cauldera.

Scientists have revealed that Yellowstone Park has been on a regular eruption cycle of 600,000 years. The last eruption was 640,000 years ago…so the next is overdue. The next eruption could be 2,500 times the size of the 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption. Volcanologists have been tracking the movement of magma under the park and have calculated that in parts of Yellowstone the ground has risen over seventy centimeters this century.

The most recent caldera-forming eruption about 650,000 years ago produced ground-hugging flows of hot volcanic ash, pumice, and gases that swept across an area of more than 3,000 square miles. When these enormous pyroclastic flows finally stopped, they solidified to form a layer of rock called the Lava Creek Tuff. Its volume was about 240 cubic miles (1,000 cubic kilometers), enough material to cover Wyoming with a layer 13 feet thick or the entire conterminous United States with a layer 5 inches thick. Fine volcanic ash that fell downwind from the eruption site blanketed much of North America. This ash layer is still preserved in deposits as far away as Iowa, where it is a few inches thick, and the Gulf of Mexico, where it is recognizable in drill cores from the sea floor.

POD - On 25 September 1998 the Yellowstone Supervolcano erupts. While there was a detectable increase in seismic activity in the months prior to the eruption, it was not conclusive, and the scientists and officials at both a local and national level did nothing other than draw-up some local evacuation plans and hold meetings.

The entire continental US is covered in thick ash, and global temperatures are going to drop for the next few years.

What happens?
 

Straha

Banned
and actually the eastern USA doesn't get covered in ash.... but its still not pleasent

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99% of humanity starves to death. No harvest for at least one year, and reduced harvests for several years. This is a Toba level event, not a relatively minor event like the 636 AD one that brought down every agricultural civilisation on earth that wasn't sitting on an island where the horse barbarians couldn't get at it. Global warming is over. It's an ice age we have to worry about. What few of us are left would just move to Hawaii or equivalent and let the glaciers roam where they wanted.
 
It's far, far worse than that

The Yellowstone super-volcano is far larger than Toba, which caused a 99% fall in population. Yellowstone's volcanic winter will last for decades.

In short, Homo sapiens will become extinct. America nuking the rest of the world would be a kindly act of euthanasia.
 
chrispi:
Why didn't the three preceeding eruptions finish off Homo Erectus or Homo Habilis, then?
 

Straha

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chrispi said:
The Yellowstone super-volcano is far larger than Toba, which caused a 99% fall in population. Yellowstone's volcanic winter will last for decades.

In short, Homo sapiens will become extinct. America nuking the rest of the world would be a kindly act of euthanasia.
Homo Sapiens now I believe has enough smarts to survive somehow. If it happened say before 1950 then we'd most likely be gone but today I think SOME would make it somehow.
 
Scary Thought

In the 60-80's Swisserland as part of its Civil defence plans, Built underground housing for it's entire population. After the Valcano erupts The Swiss go underground for a Year, while the rest of the world implodes.

A Year later The Swiss emerge conquer what little remains of Europe, and become the Worlds SuperPower. :eek:
 

Straha

Banned
DuQuense said:
In the 60-80's Swisserland as part of its Civil defence plans, Built underground housing for it's entire population. After the Valcano erupts The Swiss go underground for a Year, while the rest of the world implodes.

A Year later The Swiss emerge conquer what little remains of Europe, and become the Worlds SuperPower. :eek:
see? humanity would survive in some form!
 
tom said:
chrispi:
Why didn't the three preceeding eruptions finish off Homo Erectus or Homo Habilis, then?
There were at least three or four species of Homo at the time, and yes Yellowstone had a role in their evolution/extinction; Homo neanderthalensis arose in this environment.

There is only one species of Homo now. The whole of the human race has less variation than a troop of chimps, and this will make human adaptation to the new environment much harder. IOW a population of 6,000 chimps/hominids has as good a chance of survival as a population of 6,000,000,000 humans today. The first humans to die in a global catastrophe such as this are those in agricultural societies, especially modern ones; coincidentally these are the ones who spread furthest across the earth and have the least genetic diversity.

Even genetic engineering won't help, first because society is destroyed and therefore technology is useless, second because even if we could engineer a human to adapt we would be able to engineer enough of them for a viable population.

Possibly the hardiest humans wrt surviving global catastrophes are the San of the Kalahari.
 
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The toba eruption,about 70,000 years ago,has been credited in some quarter's,with begining the extinction of neandertal man,as their number's dramatically dropped afterward's, never completely recovering.Whereas good ole homo sapiens bred back in record time.
A yellowstone eruption however does not bode well for the northern hemisphere!A good time to be an aussie living downunder in the southern
hemisphere!
I allway's new I'd live to see the day when Australia ruled the world.All hale the newest superpower. :p
 
chrispi said:
The first humans to die in a global catastrophe such as this are those in agricultural societies, especially modern ones; coincidentally these are the ones who spread furthest across the earth and have the least genetic diversity.

Even genetic engineering won't help, first because society is destroyed and therefore technology is useless, second because even if we could engineer a human to adapt we would be able to engineer enough of them for a viable population.

There'll be some technological solution to survival. Several, actually.
 
How do you measure the hell this volcano could unleash? Anybody living east of Mississippi has GOT to move while the moving's good. Kansas alone would be buried under 5-10 ft. of ash. You can't clear that away; roofs collapse under 3" of wet ash. You can't breathe; the air is toxic. Maybe if you had a preplanned getaway, using only country roads NOT interstate (we've all seen how well managed that turned out, with incoming lanes empty and traffic stopped, out of gas and trapped in outgoing lanes). Even then, anybody in central nebrasa, colorado, south dakota probably wouldn't stand a chance.
Then you have folks in rest homes and schools and hospitals - gonna leave 'em there? Nuclear power plants will go unmanned - undoubtedly meltdowns will occur. No water as it is pollluted, and what there is will need electricity to pump it up. Forget about solar back-up.
As for farming, every square inch will have to go "Dutch" if we're going to have a chance at all. No one will feed us; they know what to expect coming their way soon and the devastation due to "nuclear winter" conditions. Backyards will have to be turned into greenhouses, using every square inch. Better like the taste of bunny; where else are you going to get protein that cheap?
Yes, if I were China or Russia, let alone many of the S. American countries that hate our interfering guts, I wouldn't sit back and wait for our recovery. I'd strike.
Future doesn't look too good to me...
 

Straha

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It could get even worse than that. Consider the damage if yellowstone were to erupt in the middle of the cuban missile crisis.
 
TV mini-series...

IIRC, Yellowstone was the subject of a 2005 TV mini-series.

It was spiced up with fancy graphics, politicians making usual fools of themselves, fleeing geologists' car overwhelmed by roiling nué-ardente and then many, many people struggling to escape the ash-fall...

Critics panned it as 'unlikely'.

The follow-up documentary suggested the dire scenario was significantly understated...
 
There is absolutely no technical fix for North America east of the Rockies. The combined ultra-shock wave, poison gas, and ash will kill everything down wind of Yellowstone. I have no idea how much damage the shockwave will produce in the areas out of the immediate ash and gas cloud, but it won't be pretty. Ash in the atmosphere will snuff out at least one year's harvest.
The only hope would be if there were nuclear-powered hydroponic facilities underground in the Eastern Hemisphere. And don't forget that there is nowhere near enough warning time to divert that many resources into a revamped subterranean economy. In short we're toast.
 
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