Alternate Weapons of War thread...

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by Hapsburg

Drawn freehand on MS Paint. Used the MS-21C Dra-C and MS-18E Kämpfer as references.
The SM-05 "Archangel" Combat Spacemech.
Though the idea of mechanized walkers modified for space use is not new, the use of dedicated space-combat machines is. Previous designs mainly involved ground walkers modified by removing legs and replacing them with chemical rockets, and jury-rigging additional vernier thrusters at various points on the machine. There were numerous problems- though more manoeuvrable and heavily-armoured than starfighters, they weren't quite as fast, and were hard to control, since they were being used in an environment they weren't meant for.
The Central Galactic Navy began development into a class of war machines that could replace starfighters in general use. The first few prototypes fared well in testing and in combat against armed dissidents. The first mass-production model, the SM-04 "Cherub" came into use in 6287, and mounted missile projectors on its arm structures. The "Archangel" was the first one developed in wartime to combat nimble Zaaroft starfighters. Faster and more manoeuvrable than any previous spacemech design, and more heavily-armoured than CGN aerospace fighters, the "Archangel" became the standard spacemech in combat use; with manipulator claws, it had the benefits of a field walker as well.

Model: SM-05 "Archangel" Combat Spacemech
Role: Space Superiority, Fast Attack, Naval Support
Deployed: 6295
Height: 21 meters
Dry Weight: 35.5 tons
Full Weight: 51 tons
Accommodation: 1 pilot, cockpit in torso
Powerplant: ultracompact battery cell, 11.5 GW output
Propulsion: 4 x 28000kg-thrust chemical rockets; 12 x main ion jets
Acceleration: 2100 G in space; 875 km/h in atmosphere.
Armour Materials: boron nitride with diamond coating
Armament: 4 x fire-linked 30mm rotary cannons, mounted in head; 6 x three-barrel 127mm Missile Projectors, mounted in upper torso

g-g-g-g-gundam!
Looks damn nice. I like mechas when they don't look like radiation mutants... (super-sized legs and stuff )

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by guernseydonkey

Your welcome. Oh yeh I realy like the aircraft looks a bit like a shark based design.

Thanks
Because of that - I 'm thinking of renaming her "Skyshark" instead of "speed angel"

[Arch-Angel]

Originally Posted by Darkaiz

g-g-g-g-gundam!
Looks damn nice. I like mechas when they don't look like radiation mutants... (super-sized legs and stuff )

complete with giant metal penis...

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by Arch-Angel

complete with giant metal penis...

ssssch, don't stare, kids. Just ignore it

[Arch-Angel]

FA-50D Hyena Fighter
Builder: Mitchell-Hyundai Corp
Primary Manufacture Location(s): Earth, Luna, Drake

Primary Users: United Earth Empire, Republic of Outback, Star Kingdom of New Brazilia

Length: 13.5m

Crew: 2
Propulsion: 2 x Mitchell Hyundai x150 Ion Thrusters; 4 x Mitchell Hyundai x25 Ion Thrusters; 2 x Mitchell Hyundai x75 Ion Thrusters
Reactors: 1 x Driver-class Solar Flare Corp Micro-Fusion Reactor; 2 Fusion Batteries

Armor: 3mm battle-steel armor

Weapons:
--1 x GRG-8 20mm Buzzsaw gauss rotary gun
--8 x hard points
--Capable of carrying M2b Poison anti-ship missile; Mk2E1 guided anti-fighter missile; M2E2 IR anti-fighter homing missile

Combining rugged durability and long range strike capability the Hyena is the primary fleet defense and strike aircraft for the Imperial Fleet. The Hyena is equally capable of fleet defense missions and long range attack capability, often times being deployed from bases through jump gates by themselves to patrol other systems or strike enemy targets.

Earlier models have also been exported to close allies of the UEE as a sign of cooperation and support. Fortunately the Hyena entered service just before contact was made with the Leonidian Hegemony and helped dissuade the Hegemony from attacking the Empire.

[Hapsburg]

Originally Posted by Arch-Angel

complete with giant metal penis...

*ahem* It's a...flight stabiliser...if it goes in atmosphere? <.<;;

Well, I had one on the head, so I thought, "why not on the groin, too?"

[crackersncheese]

Originally Posted by Arch-Angel

FA-50D Hyena Fighter
Builder: Mitchell-Hyundai Corp
Primary Manufacture Location(s): Earth, Luna, Drake

Primary Users: United Earth Empire, Republic of Outback, Star Kingdom of New Brazilia

Length: 13.5m

Crew: 2
Propulsion: 2 x Mitchell Hyundai x150 Ion Thrusters; 4 x Mitchell Hyundai x25 Ion Thrusters; 2 x Mitchell Hyundai x75 Ion Thrusters
Reactors: 1 x Driver-class Solar Flare Corp Micro-Fusion Reactor; 2 Fusion Batteries

Armor: 3mm battle-steel armor

Weapons:
--1 x GRG-8 20mm Buzzsaw gauss rotary gun
--8 x hard points
--Capable of carrying M2b Poison anti-ship missile; Mk2E1 guided anti-fighter missile; M2E2 IR anti-fighter homing missile

Combining rugged durability and long range strike capability the Hyena is the primary fleet defense and strike aircraft for the Imperial Fleet. The Hyena is equally capable of fleet defense missions and long range attack capability, often times being deployed from bases through jump gates by themselves to patrol other systems or strike enemy targets.

Earlier models have also been exported to close allies of the UEE as a sign of cooperation and support. Fortunately the Hyena entered service just before contact was made with the Leonidian Hegemony and helped dissuade the Hegemony from attacking the Empire.

What's the thing in the nose?

[Archangel Michael]

Originally Posted by Hapsburg

*ahem* It's a...flight stabiliser...if it goes in atmosphere? <.<;;

Well, I had one on the head, so I thought, "why not on the groin, too?"

Just on look tells me that that thing is so not going in any atmospheres any time soon.

Anyway, here's an (pictureless) excerpt from the latest edition of Jane's.

[Hapsburg]

Originally Posted by crackersncheese

What's the thing in the nose?

Maybe you should read the description he gave for it?

[crackersncheese]

Originally Posted by Hapsburg

Maybe you should read the description he gave for it?

Maybe you should, seeing as the word "nose" doesn't appear in the description at all.

[Archangel Michael]

Originally Posted by crackersncheese

Maybe you should, seeing as the word "nose" doesn't appear in the description at all.

My money's on it being the Buzzsaw gauss rotary gun.

[crackersncheese]

Originally Posted by Archangel Michael

My money's on it being the Buzzsaw gauss rotary gun.

Could also be the reactor, though, especially if you want to be able to detach it in emergencies.

[Hapsburg]

Originally Posted by Archangel Michael

Just one look tells me that that thing is so not going in any atmospheres any time soon.

Not necessarily. Aerial combat in the upper atmosphere/low orbit can be construed as "atmospheric combat".

Anyway, here's an (pictureless) excerpt from the latest edition of Jane's.

Ooh. That sounds cool. Pretty similar to the Terran Imperial ships of the era (4000's), but still different (your reactor idea, mainly).
I'd like to see a picture, if you ever make one.
Question though: what are xasers?

[Archangel Michael]

Originally Posted by Hapsburg

Not necessarily. Aerial combat in the upper atmosphere/low orbit can be construed as "atmospheric combat".

I guess if you want to get really technical about it.

Originally Posted by Hapsburg

Ooh. That sounds cool. Pretty similar to the Terran Imperial ships of the era (4000's), but still different (your reactor idea, mainly).
I'd like to see a picture, if you ever make one.

Thanks. Can't guarantee you any pictures anytime soon, but I'll see what I can do.

Originally Posted by Hapsburg

Question though: what are xasers?

X-ray lasers.

[Arch-Angel]

Originally Posted by crackersncheese

What's the thing in the nose?

You mean the black thing? That would be the cockpit. The Buzzsaw is located underneath the cockpit and so is not visible.

[crackersncheese]

Originally Posted by Arch-Angel

You mean the black thing? That would be the cockpit. The Buzzsaw is located underneath the cockpit and so is not visible.

Cool, like an A-10. The actual cockpit is similar to a TIE Fighter's, then, correct? A large, circular window facing directly forward?

Oh, and another thing: does the pilot fit completely into the black part? Or is he in the main body as well?

[Hapsburg]

A portside view of the Kite-class Assault Cruiser, a ship class that fills a niche role, escorting in a Command Line within a carrier group. Only around 20,000 are in service at a given time, two per carrier group; however, their performance in their special task is excellent. They function as an intermediate-sized fast-attack warship, heavily armed and with several more ion thrusters than a standard heavy or light cruiser. With large launch bays on side winglets, the Kite is able to launch a wide array of fightercraft relative for its size; the winglets also mount large angle-vectoring thrusters that give it greater speed and manoeuvrability in the thick of space battles and raids.

Class: CGN Kite Assault Cruiser
Rollout: January 27, 6287
Manufacturer: Blohm and Voss Shipyards
Length: 1600 meters
Width: 394 meters
Height: 530 meters
Engine units: 9 x Main ion drives; 4 x winglet thrusters; numerous auxiliary and manoeuvring thrusters
Powerplant: 2 x RR-185 Aneutronic Fusion Reactors
Sublight speed: 2800G
Crew: 1,095 enlisted; 405 officers; total 1,500 crewmen
Troop Capacity: 1 Full Panzer Battalion (500 men)
Standing Troops: 2 Marine Companies (200 men), 1 Waffen-SG Company (100 men)
Starfighter complement: 12 SF-178D Tigershark Aerospace Multirole Fighters; 12 SF-122A Blueshark Aerospace Defence Fighters; 12 SF-101A Mako Aerospace Interceptor Fighters; 6 F/A-156E Bullshark Aerospace Strike Fighters; 10 SM-05 Archangel Combat Spacemechs; 2 SM-09 Seraph Command Spacemechs
Armour: 3 meters of Titacrete Military-Grade Battleplate
Shielding: 5 rate
Armaments: 20 x 380cm SK-C/38 Dual Positron Beam Battery, output 4.7 gigatons/shot; 40 x 210cm SK-C/28 Triple Positron Beam Battery, output 47 megatons/shot; 60 x 88cm SK-D/12 Quad Autolaser Batteries, output 470 kilotons/shot; 60 x 405mm M-101A Quad Autocannon Turret; 26 x 10-tube RIM-601 Orca Missile Pod; 3 x 10-tube RIR-43E Atlas-XII Nuclear Torpedo Pod

[Russell]

I present the Browning General Purpose Machine Gun.

The development of the Browning GPMG is actually a story of two firearms as opposed to one - namely the Browning Automatic Rifle and the Browning Model 1919. Both had entered service by 1920 and were reguarded by the U.S. army as marvels of modern technology. However, sadly for them modern warfare would quickly outpace them. By the 1930's the U.S.A. was engaged in its first war since it's disasterous defeat in the War of the South and much of it's equipment was being tested for the first time and it was quickly discovered that both existing weapons had major shortcomings. The M1919, while a superb weapon was neverthless far too bulky and imobile to be used effectivly in a quick paced firefight - something that the BAR was far better suited too. However, the BAR itself had a major flaw in that it could only fire optional 20 or 30 round magazines - too little to provide a sustained volume of fire requiered to win a firefight. As such, in 1936 the U.S. army put out a call for a new weapon which could meet these requierments.

Naturally, one of the companies that responeded was the legendary Browning Firearms Corporation - the same company which had designed and produced the weapons already in service. Although by now John Browning was long since dead but his eldest son, Leopold Browning took up the challenge.

Rather than desigining a whole new firearm, Browning reasoned that both firearms construction was sound and component parts from both could be re-used in a new model. As it was, he developed the Browning GPMG by using the existing structure of the BAR but replacing it's compenent parts with the already existing parts from the M1919. When the trials came around in 1939 it was laregly because of this that made the weapon so popular with army officials - they only had to "modify" their existing weapons to get the desired result.

The Browning GPMG was adopted in 1941 as the M1939A1. At first the weapon was plagued with problems - an imperfection in the locing mechanism had a tedancy to cause wear over time and so leed to jams after exteneded use. However, these were rectified by in the A2 version and the Browning GPMG went on to remain in service as a popular weapon.

It saw considerable service in the Eurasian war along side the Thompson SMG and the Springfield Armouries M17A where its reliability made it popular amongst troops. Following the War a forth version of the Weapon was released, this time converting the canvas belt fed mechanism into one for a disintegrating belt. The Browning GPMG would continue to see service right up until the 1970's when it was slowly phased out in favour of a more modern weapon. However, it would stay in service until 1994 with some national guard and ROTC units. It also remained in service with Confederate Territorial Gaurd forces until 2001. The weapon also saw considerable use in Spain and Liberia.

[trekchu]

The American Bren I see.

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by Russell

I present the Browning General Purpose Machine Gun.

The development of the Browning GPMG is actually a story of two firearms as opposed to one - namely the Browning Automatic Rifle and the Browning Model 1919. Both had entered service by 1920 and were reguarded by the U.S. army as marvels of modern technology. However, sadly for them modern warfare would quickly outpace them. By the 1930's the U.S.A. was engaged in its first war since it's disasterous defeat in the War of the South and much of it's equipment was being tested for the first time and it was quickly discovered that both existing weapons had major shortcomings. The M1919, while a superb weapon was neverthless far too bulky and imobile to be used effectivly in a quick paced firefight - something that the BAR was far better suited too. However, the BAR itself had a major flaw in that it could only fire optional 20 or 30 round magazines - too little to provide a sustained volume of fire requiered to win a firefight. As such, in 1936 the U.S. army put out a call for a new weapon which could meet these requierments.

Naturally, one of the companies that responeded was the legendary Browning Firearms Corporation - the same company which had designed and produced the weapons already in service. Although by now John Browning was long since dead but his eldest son, Leopold Browning took up the challenge.

Rather than desigining a whole new firearm, Browning reasoned that both firearms construction was sound and component parts from both could be re-used in a new model. As it was, he developed the Browning GPMG by using the existing structure of the BAR but replacing it's compenent parts with the already existing parts from the M1919. When the trials came around in 1939 it was laregly because of this that made the weapon so popular with army officials - they only had to "modify" their existing weapons to get the desired result.

The Browning GPMG was adopted in 1941 as the M1939A1. At first the weapon was plagued with problems - an imperfection in the locing mechanism had a tedancy to cause wear over time and so leed to jams after exteneded use. However, these were rectified by in the A2 version and the Browning GPMG went on to remain in service as a popular weapon.

It saw considerable service in the Eurasian war along side the Thompson SMG and the Springfield Armouries M17A where its reliability made it popular amongst troops. Following the War a forth version of the Weapon was released, this time converting the canvas belt fed mechanism into one for a disintegrating belt. The Browning GPMG would continue to see service right up until the 1970's when it was slowly phased out in favour of a more modern weapon. However, it would stay in service until 1994 with some national guard and ROTC units. It also remained in service with Confederate Territorial Gaurd forces until 2001. The weapon also saw considerable use in Spain and Liberia.

Looks good! I've always liked the Bar except for the "oh shit only 20 bullets!" thing.

Anyways, I added some type of airforce logo on the Skyshark.
(yes, I renamed her. I thank you who made me think of that name. You know who you are )