Alternate Weapons of War thread...

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by 09camaro

its alright.
tell you what, a competition. Darkaiz v Krall.

Lol, just don't make it a time competition, because I need to sleep now

[Mr. BoJangles]

Originally Posted by Darkaiz

Lol, just don't make it a time competition, because I need to sleep now

all competitions are based off of quality here. as we can alter time with our imaginations

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by 09camaro

all competitions are based off of quality here. as we can alter time with our imaginations

I made some sketches and I have a good idea already at what I'm heading for when it comes to a "battle airship", but now I really must sleep... it's 04:58 here
Night.

[Coen]

Found a few paintings done many years ago, showing warriors in more or less Napoleonic clothing sitting on invertebrates. I did a few, and this was the 'French' one. They are not very good, but I thought I might try one here.

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by Coen

Found a few paintings done many years ago, showing warriors in more or less Napoleonic clothing sitting on invertebrates. I did a few, and this was the 'French' one. They are not very good, but I thought I might try one here.

Not bad! I like it


Note:
I'm working on a heavy cruiser, another battleship and a zeppelin destroyer... thing

[Darkaiz]

Oh, hai.
I'm still working on the zeppelinbattleshipthing and the superbattleship...

In the meantime, I made a cruiser of some sort and I put the Mjölnir (ca 281m)
In the image as well so that you can have her as a size referance.
Hope u like it ^^

[Mr. BoJangles]

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SIR

[Krall]

Originally Posted by 09camaro

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SIR

ALSO POST A TUTORIAL OR I WILL START TO CRY.

[Arch-Angel]

Originally Posted by Krall

ALSO POST A TUTORIAL OR I WILL START TO CRY.

I concur...

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by 09camaro

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SIR

Thank you, Kind sir. I will

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Darkaiz

Oh, hai.
I'm still working on the zeppelinbattleshipthing and the superbattleship...

In the meantime, I made a cruiser of some sort and I put the Mjölnir (ca 281m)
In the image as well so that you can have her as a size referance.
Hope u like it ^^

Wow!... just... wow!

[Ludensian]

In the closing months of WWII (OTL), the Germans were actually building "Maus": a 100-ton tracked AFV armed with a turreted 128mm main gun plus 75mm co-axial secondary.
It had diesel-electric propulsion and a crew of six(?).
At least two examples were produced - their remains were found by the Allies.
The same group was also considering other monsters up to a 1500-ton 'Land Monitor' driven by U-boat diesels and mounting a battleship-calibre weapon. Apparently, it never got beyond the design stage!

[Ludensian]

In the closing months of WWII (OTL), the Germans were actually building "Maus": a 100-ton tracked AFV armed with a turreted 128mm main gun plus 75mm co-axial secondary.
It had diesel-electric propulsion and a crew of six(?).
At least two examples were produced - their remains were found by the Allies.
The same group was also considering other monsters up to a 1500-ton 'Land Monitor' driven by U-boat diesels and mounting a battleship-calibre weapon. Apparently, it never got beyond the design stage!

[Ludensian]

[500-600 tons...]In the closing months of WWII (OTL), the Germans were actually building "Maus": a 100-ton tracked AFV armed with a turreted 128mm main gun plus 75mm co-axial secondary.
It had diesel-electric propulsion and a crew of six(?).
At least two examples were produced - their remains were found by the Allies.
The same group was also considering other monsters up to a 1500-ton 'Land Monitor' driven by U-boat diesels and mounting a battleship-calibre weapon. Apparently, it never got beyond the design stage![/quote]

[Leistungsfähiger Amerikan]

Here's your land cruiser!
<----Land Cruiser



<----Jadgpanther
<--Panzer VIII Maus
I didn't make any of these, but the Nazis planned to! Imagine an ATL where the nazis lasted a little longer and any of these were created.

[euio]

Brittania may rule the waves, but Bohemia rules the clouds.

[Darkaiz]

Originally Posted by euio

Brittania may rule the waves, but Bohemia rules the clouds.

Nice one! I like it! Seems like a world-war one design

[Leistungsfähiger Amerikan]

Originally Posted by euio

Brittania may rule the waves, but Bohemia rules the clouds.

I wanna see a TL with this! A WW1 w/ those would be so cool.

[euio]

Originally Posted by Darkaiz

Nice one! I like it! Seems like a world-war one design

Originally Posted by Leistungsfähiger Amerikan

I wanna see a TL with this! A WW1 w/ those would be so cool.

Actually, it's more like a Napoleonic Wars with those. Notice the white strakes on the gun decks.

[gtrof]

Excerpt from Tanks of World War II

M4A5 Super Sherman

Country: United States
Crew: 4
Armament: 1x M105 105mm
1x .30 caliber 1919A4 Coaxial MG
1x .50 caliber M2 HMG

Prior to the arrival of Admiral Kolhammer’s task force in June 1942, the M4 Sherman was meant to serve as the mainstay of the U.S. tank force. If things had proceeded as normal, the Sherman would have become the tank of the Western Allies. The original Sherman was armed with a lower velocity 75mm gun more useful in an infantry support role rather than going head to head with enemy tanks. Another weakness of the M4 was its thin armor. Even before discussions began between the U.S. Army and experts from the 21st Century it was know the Sherman could not stand up to the powerful and fast 75mm and 88mm shells used by the Germans. Finally the Sherman had a gasoline engine that would often burn when hit.

The problems with the original M4 models almost led to the tank being scrapped. Not only did uptimers recommend this, many members of the contemporary U.S. tank corps agreed. However by 1942 nearly 30,000 Shermans had been produced. Rather than wasting all that material, it was decided the Sherman would receive ‘Mods’.

Many of the M4s had their originally suspension system removed, to be replaced with the Easy Eight system that would have appeared later in the war. Upgrades to the Sherman’s armor were also made. Appliqué armor was added to the sides, forward slope, and turret. The front armor received a sharper slope to better deal with anti-tank shells. Advanced lightweight 21st Century composites were also added to protect the crew and engine compartments. Some M4s also received a layer of Kevlar to catch shrapnel fragments if a shell did penetrate. Nearly every Sherman in Europe had Slat Armor. The simple metal rods arranged like a cage proved effective against HEAT warheads found in the German Panzerfaust, Panzersherks, and wire guided missiles. A diesel engine eliminated the fire threat posed by the original Sherman.

Armament was one of the first things upgraded. Debate raged between uptimers and contemporary personnel over whether to arm the Sherman with the longer barreled high velocity 76mm or a powerful 105mm gun based on an uptime French design. Intelligence on new German Panzers being produced (the monstrous Tiger IIs and Leopards) ended the debate. The Sherman’s turret was redesigned to accommodate the American copy of the French 105mm (To uptimers the French gun was designated CN 105 F1). With the addition of more armor to the front of the M4 , the bow mounted machinegun was eliminated. A .30 caliber machinegun was coaxially mounted with the main gun. AT (advance technology) stabilization and sights were added to many Shermans prior to the invasion of Europe.

Although no longer the principle Allied tank, the Super Sherman could be found fighting along side with the Pershing and Centurion tanks (two of the Allies heavier tanks). The first Super Shermans got their combat test in the Pas de Calais Specially modified M4A5s were part of the D-Day landing forces. Their 105mm guns pounded German bunkers and defenses and helped the infantry fight their way inland. In their first tests against German Panzers, the M4s still had some disadvantages. The Tiger and King Tiger tanks could engage the Sherman at long range. Their APDS rounds could also defeat the modified M4’s armor. However the Tigers lost their complete invincibility to the Sherman’s 105mm gun. Plus even with the changes made the Sherman could still out maneuver the heavier and slower German tanks.

The Super Sherman was also a match for the Soviet T-34s and even their T-55s. Used by Americans in the Japanese Civil War and other allied nations during the Cold War, the Sherman continued to serve till the 1960s. A few working Shermans can be found in military museums and private collections around the world.

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Okay I based this off John Birmingham's Final Impact. The passage above is written in universe quite awhile after World War 2.0 has ended. The M4 in the last book is basically an Isreali Super Sherman with some other mods. I'm thinking about doing some other stuff from the Axis of Time but not sure. Anyway hope you like!