The NEW Our TimeLine Maps Thread!

[Iori]

Since it was among the last posts two pages back it may not have been seen.

Anyways, is their a Q-BAM of the Interwar period?

[vended]

Can you make in gold coast with Togoland the same border you made in nigeria with old german cameroon ?

[Chris S]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

Here's my 1948 OW BAM, w/ a few somethings changed and added. I have depicted the situation in Indonesia/Dutch East Indies, as well as removing the Italian brown outline from Italy's former African colonies. I haven't added the BCOF zone in occupied Japan yet, for I am still deciding on how I am going to show it.

Well how about like this?

[Chris S]

You may notice I also combined your two Korea patches into one map. Wasn't sure about how South Korea/ROK should have been depicted, so I did this version without the outlining. Since both Koreas were established in 1948 (and before December 1948) it would only seem right that both be depicted and as the border between them wasn't an internationally agreed border but rather the limits of each government (each of which claimed the entire peninsula) then no solid line border is shown. Here's the version without the outline around South Korea:

[Thande]

I would just use a shade of the British colour for the BCOF area. I know it was mostly Australian but perhaps you could outline in the dominion colour and fill in with a pale British red.

[Qazaq2007]

@Chris S,
Exellent way of depicting the BCOF area, although Thande's idea could work as well. As for Korea, that is a bit trickier due to the fact that both Koreas claimed the entire peninsula.

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by vended

Can you make in gold coast with Togoland the same border you made in nigeria with old german cameroon ?

Forgot to add that border in. That sketch map you posted doesn't show the correct boundary alignment, for it is a bit off in places.

PS, Before I get shagged for this, sorry about quoting the map.

[Chris S]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

@Chris S,
Exellent way of depicting the BCOF area, although Thande's idea could work as well. As for Korea, that is a bit trickier due to the fact that both Koreas claimed the entire peninsula.

For the BCOF zone I usually think of it in terms similar to the Luxembourgian sector of occupation within the French Zone in Germany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...many_1945-1955

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lu...55-english.jpg

[Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

As for Korea, that is a bit trickier due to the fact that both Koreas claimed the entire peninsula.

If this is January 1 then neither regime has been proclaimed yet. Korea is, like Germany and Austria, a single country divided into occupation zones.

[Chris S]

Here's a patch showing the Suez Canal Zone. Haven't added in black borders as I'm not sure if it even had official borders like the Panama Canal Zone but I based it off a couple maps, one of which showed the location of British installations (airbases/airstations and army bases and checkpoints) in the area (at least on the western side of the Canal). Also adjusted northern Palestine and southern Lebanon as the Palestinian/Israel "panhandle" seemed a bit truncated in the original:

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy

If this is January 1 then neither regime has been proclaimed yet. Korea is, like Germany and Austria, a single country divided into occupation zones.

True, when dealing w/ recent history, you need to be a bit more precise than a year when deciding what you want shown on a world map.

[Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

True, when dealing w/ recent history, you need to be a bit more precise than a year when deciding what you want shown on a world map.

Going from the borders in Palestine (another potential controversy) I would assume you're depicting early '48.

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy

Going from the borders in Palestine (another potential controversy) I would assume you're depicting early '48.

I was going w/ depicting the world at or near the beginning of 1948, which is the reason behind not showing a divided Korea, but now w/ all the map patches posted, we could show the world as it was at anytime in 1948, well mostly anytime.

[Filo]

I have serch page by page: i have found none.
Is there a map of 1500 europe?

[Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy]

Originally Posted by Filo

I have serch page by page: i have found none.
Is there a map of 1500 europe?

http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/1500/index.html

Click on one of the 4 quarters of the map to see a better picture.

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by Filo

I have serch page by page: i have found none.
Is there a map of 1500 europe?

Here's one I drew a while back, of Europe in 1500. This map even shows the micro states within the HRE.

[Zuvarq]

Anyone have a 12th century map of any size larger than worlda?

[Maharajah]

Originally Posted by Chris S

Q. I may be wrong, but didn't Italy give up her claims to her pre-WWII colonies as part of the 1947 peace treaty?

Actually, I found the treaty and they did. See: http://www.istrianet.org/istria/hist...eaty-italy.htm

Skip to Section IV, Article 23.

That should simplify your map.

In the former Italian Somaliland though, Italy was brought back in as the UN Trust Territory administrator in 1950 but I don't think that was related (or completely related) to the 1947 peace treaty.



Well ask and you shall receive:



It's from this site on Indonesian history: http://www.gimonca.com/sejarah/sejarah08.shtml

You can apply the information any way you want, but my understanding is that the "negaras" were states which were formed (or supported after being independently founded) by the Dutch (and which basically accepted Dutch control) while the area under Dutch military occupation had originally been part of the original Republic of Indonesia. Other areas under Dutch control never declared themselves to be new states or negaras or to be completely independent from the Dutch like the Republic.

By the way, if you are going to edit the East Indies, would you change northern Borneo to show Sarwak separate from British North Borneo (which is now Sabah and the federal territory of Labuan)? At the time they weren't merged.

Oh and if you desire you could show the BCOF zone in Japan, although in Japan the occupation structure was different with MacArthur being supreme commander/administrator and the Australian commander of the BCOF zone being a local administrator who would have to follow directives from MacArthur's headquarters. The BCOF zone included Shikoku island and the Chugoku region of Honshu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%ABgoku_region).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republi...s_of_Indonesia

Actually, that map appears to show the de facto situation in the Republic of the United States of Idonesia. It was a federation consistin of the Republic of Indonesia plus th 15 states establihed by the Dutch. West Papua/Irian Jaya was still a Dutch colony at the time.

The Republic of the United States of Indonesia ceased to exist in 1950 when every other state in the feertion dissolved themelves into the state known as the Republic of Indonesia.

The Wikipedia article has a map showing the official boundaries of the states.

[Filo]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

Here's one I drew a while back, of Europe in 1500. This map even shows the micro states within the HRE.

May thanks!!!

[Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy]

Originally Posted by Filo

May thanks!!!

In August?