A challenge I wish to pose to you all. Find some way for the Ottoman Empire to before 1900 form a Jewish state (not necessarily within Palestine/Judea). It does not have to be completely independent, and can indeed be a puppet state.
A challenge I wish to pose to you all. Find some way for the Ottoman Empire to before 1900 form a Jewish state (not necessarily within Palestine/Judea). It does not have to be completely independent, and can indeed be a puppet state.
Jonathan Edelstein's timeline completes this through the creation of the Free Port of Salonika - which of course had a Jewish majority, predominately Sephardic and Romaniote, throughout the Ottoman period.
because the whole empire was subgroups;Why would they hive off ANY territority to any subgroup.
hell the ottomans weren't arabic but most of their empire was
Not really.
At their height when they actually controlled Egypt, yes, Arabs would've been the largest group, however for most of its history the Ottoman Empire European ethnic groups (including Turks) formed the majority of the population.
They gave the Kurds some autonomy I think. The Romanians too. They'd never make a "turkic state" because, well, they were turkic. That be like the UK creating an English state. As for not making an Arab state, that's because they'd bee handing over most of their land. Small minorities, like Kurds, Georgians, Armenians, Bulgarians, Alawites, Arabic Christians, Serbians, Greeks, etc. could possibly have gotten something though I suppose.And they never cteated a turkic state or an arab state, so why a jewish one?