MotF 60: L'État, c'est Moi - Voting thread

[Krall]

We had some excellent entries this round, and plenty of them - I hope the next MotF is this good!

Entries thread:
http://alternatehistory.com/discussi...d.php?t=243921

Main thread:
http://alternatehistory.com/discussi...d.php?t=170373

[Ares96]

Lots of great entries this time around. It came down to Future8 or Kaiphranos for me, but in the end I voted for Future8, because a modernised Saudi Arabia with high-speed rail is instant win. Anything with high-speed rail is instant win, really.

[Kaiphranos]

Lots of good maps this round, but how could I vote against Emperor Norton?

[WhatIsAUserName]

I voted for B_Munro this time, because I am particularly fond of the idea of a Franco-Spanish union under a Bourbon monarch. And because this was one of his good maps.

[Iori]

It was a tough decision between Future8 and Kaiphranos; ultimately I chose randomly and went with Kai's.

Ares69's map was good, but had way to much text (which I could'nt even read, being in German) on it making it seem cluttered.

[B_Munro]

You know, it didn't occur to me until _after_ I started my map that Louis XIV was the originator of the contest title? It's true!

Bruce

[NikoZnate]

This was a tough one... Loved B_Munro's map, as always, but I can never say no to anything involving Queen Zenobia... And then there was also the massive and loveable Haïti-wank (assuming I was reading that map correctly)...

[Dom Jao II]

Originally Posted by B_Munro

You know, it didn't occur to me until _after_ I started my map that Louis XIV was the originator of the contest title? It's true!

Bruce

I knew it from Civ IV

[Beedok]

Yay! I'm making a strong showing.

[Ares96]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Yay! I'm making a strong showing.

And I'm making an equally strong showing!

[demonkangaroo]

I've go with Lord Hastur. Jacobite Alpine Hermit Kingdom is just too damn neat.

[Goliath]

I wasn't going to vote for myself....but my name isn't up there!

[Ares96]

Originally Posted by Iori

Ares96's map was good, but had way to much text (which I could'nt even read, being in German) on it making it seem cluttered.

It's supposed to look that way. The typewritten bits were superimposed onto the map by the people planning the, well, plan.

[Krall]

Originally Posted by Goliath

I wasn't going to vote for myself....but my name isn't up there!

Check your PMs - I'm afraid your entry was disqualified for not meeting the challenge requirements.

[Goliath]

I checked the challenge and restrictions, and there isn't a single thing my map doesn't comply with......

[Krall]

Originally Posted by Goliath

I checked the challenge and restrictions, and there isn't a single thing my map doesn't comply with......

The challenge was to make a map showing a world where a monarch from OTL (i.e. someone who was a monarch in our timeline, or was a pretender to a throne, or at least famously claimed to be a monarch) was more successful. Your map involved Tokugawa Yoshinobu being more successful than he was in our timeline, but Yoshinobu was not a monarch in our timeline so your entry did not meet those guidelines, I'm afraid.

[Goliath]

Shoguns don't count as monarchs...o.....

[tormsen]

Originally Posted by Krall

The challenge was to make a map showing a world where a monarch from OTL (i.e. someone who was a monarch in our timeline, or was a pretender to a throne, or at least famously claimed to be a monarch) was more successful. Your map involved Tokugawa Yoshinobu being more successful than he was in our timeline, but Yoshinobu was not a monarch in our timeline so your entry did not meet those guidelines, I'm afraid.

Needlessly and unnecessarily pedantic, plus:

mon·arch   [mon-erk, -ahrk], noun
1. a hereditary sovereign, as a king, queen, or emperor.
2. a sole and absolute ruler of a state or nation.
3. a person or thing that holds a dominant position: a monarch of international shipping.
4. monarch butterfly.

Since the emperor only held nominal power, and the shogunate was hereditary and held actual power, I think it qualifies.

[tormsen]

I voted for Kaiphranos both for style and content. Props to Ares96, B_Munro and Future8 as well.

[Krall]

Originally Posted by tormsen

Needlessly and unnecessarily pedantic, plus:

mon·arch   [mon-erk, -ahrk], noun
1. a hereditary sovereign, as a king, queen, or emperor.
2. a sole and absolute ruler of a state or nation.
3. a person or thing that holds a dominant position: a monarch of international shipping.
4. monarch butterfly.

Since the emperor only held nominal power, and the shogunate was hereditary and held actual power, I think it qualifies.

I was going off of whether the title was/is widely considered to be and recognised as monarchical, which excludes Shogun. Requiring the entries to conform to that definition of "monarch" would also exclude elected monarchs and constitutional monarchs, which I do not think should be excluded.