Go Back   Alternate History Discussion Board > Discussion > Alternate History Books and Media

View Poll Results: Who would you vote for?
Senator Barack Obama, IL 29 36.71%
Senator Hillary Clinton, NY 26 32.91%
Congressman Dennis Kucinich, OH 11 13.92%
Fmr Senator John Edwards, NC 3 3.80%
Senator Joe Biden, DE 4 5.06%
Senator Chris Dodd, CT 0 0%
Fmr Senator Mike Gravel, AK 4 5.06%
Governor Bill Richardson, NM 2 2.53%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 14th, 2012, 01:00 AM
NickCT NickCT is online now
Can I get Hillary 2016? Yea?
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1000 or more
Retrospective Democratic Primaries: 2008 (US)

Knowing what you know now would you still vote for Barack Obama for the nomination? Would you support Hillary Clinton? Dennis Kucinich? Or one of the lesser known candidates?
__________________
The Audacity of Opposition: A Different Obama First Term
http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...d.php?t=318495
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old May 14th, 2012, 01:33 AM
Axeman Axeman is offline
>Bloc leader
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1000 or more
Voted Kucinich.

The way I see it is Kucinich is far more in the democratic establishment and probably more liberal as a hole *based on his record from 98*? in the house and when he was the youngest mayor of Cleveland. He is pretty principled and consistent and even when deregulation was all of the rage during the 80s he yelled *in futility* against it. The way I see it, if we have someone more in the establishment, more flexible, more willing to play the "game", with more experience, the democrats can get more done while they still have a majority in the house and senate. Give kennedy some better health and we could see the Democrats using cloture in the senate repeatedly and pushing through massive healthcare reform. The Republicans may not be able to take a majority in either chamber in 2010.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 14th, 2012, 03:51 AM
Emperor of Scandinavia Emperor of Scandinavia is offline
Emperor of Scandinavia
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 367
Why I like Hillary

She has experience as Senator.

She has good bipartisan relations on the Hill.

She connects better to "blue collar" voters. (The people Obama said "clung to their guns and religion.")

Also I would love to see Hillary as President, so she could rub it in the faces of the people who tried to destroy her back in the 90's.

Bill Richardson would be a good VP pick.
Wishing you well, his majesty,
The Scandinavian Emperor
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old May 14th, 2012, 04:59 AM
d32123 d32123 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 北林海, 卡斯凯迪亚自治区
Posts: 1000 or more
Kucinich, because he's the only one here who even close to represents my political views.

For the record, I was a Hillary Clinton supporter at the time.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old May 14th, 2012, 06:56 AM
Mr.J Mr.J is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 828
Still voting Obama. In my heart, I want Kucinich, but I don't think he's electable, sadly. I see no reason why Hillary would be any less of an appeasing DLC Democrat than Obama has been, or why conservative resistance to her would be any less fierce. Edwards, knowing what I know about him now, is right out. Gravel's entertaining but he's a nut, Richardson's an interesting possibility but I still support Obama over him, and Biden and Dodd are not exactly canidates to excite the nation or become great "crisis presidents" IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old May 14th, 2012, 09:18 AM
Axeman Axeman is offline
>Bloc leader
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1000 or more
Kucinich is very electable. Despite people screaming at the top of their lungs that Obama was a communist non-american secret muslim and he called part of his base people who "clung to guns and religion", he still won handily.

Perhaps Kucinich takes Obama as VP and we can see him sweep handily?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old May 14th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Snowstalker Snowstalker is offline
Hi.
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1000 or more
Voted Biden for kicks.

But probably Clinton.
__________________
And I Live By The River
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old May 14th, 2012, 11:45 PM
jpj1421 jpj1421 is online now
Pragmatic Progressive
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 772
Voted for Clinton the first time...voting for her the second time. I just think she has a stronger will power than Obama.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old May 15th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Tony Tony is offline
Tiananmen Ghost
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sandy Island, New Caledonia (before its ISOT)
Posts: 1000 or more
John Edwards, for the sake of a McCain victory
__________________
A Song Was Heard in China
Last updated: December 8, 2013
Next update (covering events until 1992): February 2014

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old May 15th, 2012, 01:07 AM
Emperor Norton I Emperor Norton I is offline
Met guy who met Beatles, 10/27
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North
Posts: 1000 or more
I jumped on the Obama bandwagon early. I see no reason to change my opinion.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old May 15th, 2012, 01:20 AM
Paul V McNutt Paul V McNutt is offline
Paul V McNutt
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1000 or more
I am repeating my OTL primary vote for Obama.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old May 15th, 2012, 06:24 PM
NickCT NickCT is online now
Can I get Hillary 2016? Yea?
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1000 or more
Hillary would be guaranteed a second term (though Obama pretty much is, she wouldn't need to worry about the chance of her single biggest accomplishment being declared unconstitutional, because she wouldn't have attempted to pass it in her first term). Furthermore, w/o Universal HC the GOP sweep is lessened and they probably don't regain control of the House, no gov't shutdown.

For the liberals out there: HC would be attempted at the beginning of her second term with Pelosi and Reid still as the two party bosses by Hillary's side

For Republicans like me: the biggest incentive is a better foreign policy, a delayed HC Bill, and more experience going into the job.
__________________
The Audacity of Opposition: A Different Obama First Term
http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...d.php?t=318495
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old May 15th, 2012, 06:54 PM
snerfuplz snerfuplz is online now
Liveral Fascist
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 1000 or more
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Conservative Fellah View Post
Hillary would be guaranteed a second term (though Obama pretty much is, she wouldn't need to worry about the chance of her single biggest accomplishment being declared unconstitutional, because she wouldn't have attempted to pass it in her first term). Furthermore, w/o Universal HC the GOP sweep is lessened and they probably don't regain control of the House, no gov't shutdown.

For the liberals out there: HC would be attempted at the beginning of her second term with Pelosi and Reid still as the two party bosses by Hillary's side

For Republicans like me: the biggest incentive is a better foreign policy, a delayed HC Bill, and more experience going into the job.
I doubt Clinton would ever pass universal health care. Obviously some sort of reform but me thinks it would be more like Emmanuel suggested rather then something as extensive as Obama's.
__________________
My Sad City: http://snerfu.myminicity.com/
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old May 16th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Mr.J Mr.J is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 828
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axeman View Post
Kucinich is very electable. Despite people screaming at the top of their lungs that Obama was a communist non-american secret muslim and he called part of his base people who "clung to guns and religion", he still won handily.

Perhaps Kucinich takes Obama as VP and we can see him sweep handily?

I don't know. Kucinich is actually pretty much a socialist, while Obama is far from it. With Obama, I think moderates could see the "Communist!" argument was bullshit. With Kucinich, I'm not sure they could. Also, while I think he's awesome, Kucinich definately lacks Obama's charisma.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old May 16th, 2012, 01:46 AM
eaglesfan101 eaglesfan101 is offline
Comrade Funk on Atlas
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 333
Clinton. Unlike Obama, she would know how uncompromising Repubs would be considering Billy experienced the same shit Obama did.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old May 16th, 2012, 04:40 AM
Hercule Poirot Hercule Poirot is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 120
As a Republican, I must at least foreign policy-wise the Obama years have not been bad at all. So I go for the "devil I know".
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old May 17th, 2012, 02:56 PM
NickCT NickCT is online now
Can I get Hillary 2016? Yea?
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1000 or more
clinton's catching up!!
__________________
The Audacity of Opposition: A Different Obama First Term
http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...d.php?t=318495
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old May 18th, 2012, 01:01 AM
JSmith JSmith is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Denver Colorado
Posts: 1000 or more
Obama's the one.I'd have loved to vote for Dennis Kucinich but he would have likely lost to John McCain. I would have been alright with John Edwards at the time also but knowing what I now know .The Democrats dodged a bullet with him. Hillary Clinton is perfectly qualified to be president but I have a issue with presidential dynasties actually. Surely in a country of 300 million people we can find people besides the sons,spouses or whatever of former presidents to be president. Of course I would have voted for her over McCain/Palin any day but I'm glad I didn't have to.
__________________
How do I define history? It's just one fuckin' thing after another.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.