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Old July 8th, 2012, 03:23 AM
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This is a map taken from a middle school textbook published in 1989, based on the 1987 US census:





ITTL the USA and English/the UK remained enemies for a much longer time, and didn't reconcile until the late 1860s. In the meantime immigration from Britain was severely restricted (by both sides), and the USA instead looked to France as an ally. A large influx of German settlers arrived in the early-mid 19th century due to famine, a failed liberal revolution and the political turmoil that followed and regular warfare. It slowed down eventually, but kept going until the mid 20th century when Europe stabilised and became a much nicer place to live. Due to this America had a very different linguistic development from OTL, and in 1934 congress officially declared that American was its own language, and not a series of heavy English dialects. What followed was two major linguistic reforms, the last of which took place as late as 1979 and was called the Great Spelling Reform (Graut Spiling Reform) and was an attempt to standardise phonetic spelling in the relatively young language, with mixed results.

The USA, or rather the JSA as it became known in Amerikan after the reform, didn't expand as much as it did OTL, and some states never formed or were formed in very different forms. Texas (Techas, pronounced something like Tuh-ch-as, where ch is like in the German, like Bach) never became an independent republic and was partitioned in a war with Mexico, hence its weird borders. Maine was lost to the UK in the war of 1812 (a contributing reason to the two countries not reconciling), and the southern border of Canada west of the great lakes was drawn much to the south compared to OTL (the treaty, in the 1860s, was one of the reasons the countries did eventually reconcile, but it lost president Müller his second term). And of course there never was a civil war. Slavery was instead abolished by gradual reform (lots of immigrants from France and Germany and their colonies meant that the voting slave owners eventually came to be outnumbered, and a slightly different rate of innovation in the agricultural field helped make slavery less profitable earlier).

I don't think you should need a translation, as it's not too far removed from OTL modern English. The one thing I should say is that Dotch (Dot-ch, once again German ch-sound) means German, not Dutch. Amerikan is a bit like the people saying American on the US census today: just a mix of mostly European ancestry. It also includes a large amount of people with British (mostly English) ancestry, but because no one wanted to be associated with the British for a large part of the country's history they came to refer to themselves as simply American.

The states aren't really shown by majority in several cases, but rather by plurality, but for a middle school textbook it's close enough. The percentage is based on the census for the whole country, and while there are actually ethnic groups that are larger than the Italians nationally (such as Jews) they are grouped into the other ethnicity category because they don't form the "majority" of any state.

If anyone is interested I could post a pronunciation guide in IPA, as the sounds are a bit different from English.

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Old July 8th, 2012, 03:43 AM
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British North America with Louisiana and all Oregon.

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Old July 8th, 2012, 03:44 AM
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The latest census data from the Republic of Texas reflects the nation's diverse cultural heritage. This map illustrates each county's largest ancestral group as reported in the census.
I always liked this one; simple but it gets the point across and looks like something you'd see on a actual ATL census bureau's website. Now that I think about it though, I'd imagine there would be more self-identified ethnic Texans, as there are quite a few self-identified ethnic Americans and ethnic Canadians. Texas is already very proud of it's identity IOTL...
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Old July 8th, 2012, 03:44 AM
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The 2011 Census results for the Commonwealth of New England have been tabulated, and ethnic data has been made available to the public. This data shows how New England's varied history has created a very diverse population.


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Old July 8th, 2012, 03:46 AM
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2583 - Milky Way Galaxy

The supranational entities of the United Democratic Nations and the Eastern Political Front had dominated humanity's politics for the better part of a century prior to the inception of the FTL travel*. Due to their governance over extra-solar colonization, the changing nature of possible war between the two alliances, and the rapidly ballooning human population off-Earth, it was only a matter of time until they seized full control, dividing the Earth in two (politically that is).

Cauldron Sector is a unique one in human space. It contains the highest concentration of habitable planets** within known space. As such, it had been settled by a wide variety of nations prior to the Supranational Takeover. The only location in human space with a greater variety of cultures and peoples is Earth herself.

*Its slow-ish, travel across Human Space would take about a year, still, this is at a rate several hundred times that of the speed of light.
**An officially certified habitable planet has all of the following criteria
-Physical Characteristics within 10% of Earth Norms (Gravity, Water-Land Surface Area Ratio, Atmospheric Composition, Average Temperature)
-Native Life
-No Immediately Threatening Conditions (E.G. Prevalent Super Volcano, Frequent Meteor Storms, ect.)

Sector Map produced by the K'rall Cartography Guild of Luna - Do it right, do it K'rall


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Old July 8th, 2012, 03:49 AM
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And the winner was ...Peter Fergus, whose map is missing. Hopefully he'll reply to my email.


Lyly and charl tied for second, third was VulcanTrekkie.

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Old July 8th, 2012, 03:50 AM
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The 2011 Census results for the Commonwealth of New England have been tabulated, and ethnic data has been made available to the public. This data shows how New England's varied history has created a very diverse population
...This one, on the other hand. It's nicely put together and I always like independent New England scenarios, but that western border peeves me a bit.

Looking at it again I kind of wonder about the First Nations plurality in northern Maine; more Natives in that region for some reason or substantially thinner white settlement? Certainly they aren't that widespread IOTL (But then, neither are the Dutch or French). I don't think I noticed plurality black Halifax before either. I wonder if Halifax attracted more black migrants as it ended up a larger city, due to being a major center in New England rather than a somewhat peripheral one in Canada?
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Old July 11th, 2012, 01:23 AM
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You know, I gotta give props for those with the patience to draw and color in all those little counties....

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Old July 11th, 2012, 12:04 PM
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You forgot mine (again).

Also, based on a previous statement and looking through the thread, you really do need to include ALL entries, not just the ones you like/find worthy, since that's incredibly biased and totaly evicerates the credibility/legitimacy of this thread and to be quite frank makes you look bad yourself.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 02:56 PM
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You forgot mine (again).

Also, based on a previous statement and looking through the thread, you really do need to include ALL entries, not just the ones you like/find worthy, since that's incredibly biased and totaly evicerates the credibility/legitimacy of this thread and to be quite frank makes you look bad yourself.

I said right at the start

Since somebody suggested this, thought I'd repost some of the cream of the crop of earlier contests

which indicated that this would be based on my preferences. I have skipped many maps I didn't like so far without anyone else indulging in passive-agressive attacks on me, so presumeably most people don't mind. If you don't like it, you are free to ignore this thread. However, it is possible I have been a bit neglectful of your maps in choosing what to keep: I shall attempt to put more time into my selections in the future.

Anyway,
Thirty-thousand years ago the Kadari began evacuating their Solar System as the imminent danger to life their became clear,
thousands of ships of various size fled the planets and Moons over a century, going in various directions for a myriad of reasons,
however a large portion of the ships from several of the polities of the Kadar System headed towards Kal-Anar (roughly New Hope),
a System they had discovered decades before to have atleast one planet capable of supporting life as well as several other planets,
including some Jovians that were thought to themselves have many planetary moons, that could be colonized.

The journey would last nearly a millenia (it was'nt a straight shot), as the great ships with their combined several million inhabitants
in stasis trekked across space.

The fleet would finally arrive in the Human year 272 CE, however do to the discovery of intelligent life the Fleet Council (who had
been awoken a few months before entering the star system) chose not to awaken the refugees, rather setting up a long term plan
for the future of their people.
 

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In early 2005, sixty years after the first Nuclear test was detected the plan began to start, across the planet the ships that remained
began to come online and start surfacing (in some cases, literally).

It was soon discovered that not everything had gone to plan, while all of the Ka'na-class ships, the ships that held the bulk of the Kadari
had come online at the same time it was discovered that some 36% of the smaller ships had left over the nearly two millenia since
the fleet arrived.
In Summer of 2012 the Kadari presence became known across the world, sooner than many had wanted, as the ships of the Zak'ta soon awoke.

While the Kadari ships landed across the globe most of them had landed in the Western hemisphere, and the largest amount (10 of the
12 Ka'na class ships) had landed in northern South America.
 
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It's been 16 years since the 'Awakening', as Humanity has come to call it, and the world has changed greatly.

Guyana and Suriname, the countries in which most of the fleet landed were quick to embrace the Kadari once they realized they were
not only peaceful, but showed a great enthusiasm in helping the people their.
As a result of the Kadari there having been from the same polity they did not want to be separated, thus after two months of negotiations
the Guiana-Kadari Federation was born.

Several months later the Brazilian state of Roraima joined the federation after the Kadari negotiated a referendum of all the Kadari and
Humans living their in exchange for providing Brazil with advanced technologies and signing a mutual defence agreement.



there you are.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 03:08 PM
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(Come to think of it, it's not passive-agressive, it's just rude)
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Old July 12th, 2012, 11:15 PM
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Heck - know what? If anyone else tells me this thread is "incredibly biased" and "totaly (without)credibility/legitimacy" and "makes (me) look bad", fuck it. Someone else can continue it - I don't need the goddamn aggravation.

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Old July 13th, 2012, 10:00 AM
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Old July 17th, 2012, 12:00 AM
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Add me to the list too. This is a great thread, I check it probably from the 25th to the 10th at the end/beginning of each month daily (at least) and find it really great. I've actually gotten a lot of inspiration for my own maps from this thread. please, keep it running.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 12:28 AM
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This one's also joining the "Bruce is awesome and this thread is awesome" chorus. Please keep it up, we need our map fixes!
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Old July 17th, 2012, 01:51 AM
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Ok, ok. Didn't say I was going to go, just if people were dickish.

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Old August 11th, 2012, 03:13 AM
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A bit of a delay, sorry...

MOTF 38: THE NOT FRENCH REVOLUTION


The Challenge
Make a map showing where a revolution analogous to the French Revolution from OTL in ideals and/or circumstances takes place in a country that is not France. The map may show the nation during the revolution itself, after the revolution succeeds, or after the revolution fails.


The Restrictions
Future history and ASB maps are not allowed. There are no restrictions on when the PoD can be or when or where the map can be set, but the revolution and its effects need to similar enough to OTL's French Revolution to be considered analogous.



First, MKN:

The American Republic, known to it's citizens as simply The Republic, was founded in 1809, at the end of a thirty year conflict known in the Republic as the Great Struggle, and elsewhere as the American Rebellion or American Revolution.

The Great Struggle began as a conflict over taxation. The colonies were united against the British, but then at the end of the Eighteenth Century the people of Quebec, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware, and what was then known as New York were possessed by a great new revolutionary spirit, which led to division among the anti-British forces. However, while the Christianist rebels fell, the rebels under the glorious stewardship of Thomas Paine succeeded! They went on to establish a new nation, which promoted equality and liberty for all!


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Old August 11th, 2012, 03:16 AM
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And demonkangaroo:

This comes from a TL where the Kociuszko Uprising is twenty times more successful, thanks to Austrian assistance, which in turn is because of a more successful Joesph II. The map itself is from the United States State Dept. World Atlas. As you can see, many of the names have been Anglicized to death. And yes, TNP is supposed to be TTL's equivalent of GDP.

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Old August 11th, 2012, 03:20 AM
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Basically, this is a combo of failed Constitutional Convention, Loyalist Counter-Revolution, and Super-Revolutionism.
Shay, a simple farmer from West Massachusetts, began a rebellion against taxes imposed by the government which went against the spirit of the Revolution. His farmer army marched on Boston, and Massachusetts seceded from the Union in an attempt to preserve the revolutionary spirit. At the same time, the Constitutional Convention collapsed as all cordiality north of the Carolinas collapsed. New York attack Vermont, alienating New Hampshire and the rest of New England. The New Englanders turned against the Union government with the exception of Rhode Island. New Hampshire lost against New York and the population of New Hampshire and Maine rose in rebellion, inspired by Shay's example. The new state still has no official name, but Shay is the figurehead of this Second Revolution. Connecticut on the other hand was full of Loyalists from the Revolution, and declared independence. The far west of the state was more die-hard Loyalist and named itself the Colony of New Haven (sort of wrong geographically) and the east remained the State of Connecticut. The tiny state/colony tried to call for annexation by Great Britain but its calls came unanswered.

In the middle colonies, all hell broke loose. Loyalists from Connecticut had spread over the north of Pennsylvania, and their Reserve in the Ohio Country. These people declared independence, and forged an alliance with Loyalist rebels in New Jersey. The south of Pennsylvania collapsed as the Westmoreland Confederacy launched an attack from all directions. The remainder of New Jersey was occupied by New York as a protectorate, though the population remains fiercely loyal to the rump Republic in the South. More interesting is Maryland. Maryland had long been a colony run by the Calvert family. With this sudden altercation in the Americas, they saw a chance to take make what they saw as theirs. Virginia declared independence during the Constitutional Convention, and a pro-Union rebellion in Kentucky breaking out left Maryland isolated. Calvert raised a mercenary army and promised Irishmen and dispossessed Highlanders land in Maryland to fight in his army. His arm landed in Virginia, and they offered him troops and their Chesapeake Peninsula if he took out the Marylander and Delaware Unionists. The militia's in Maryland could do little to stand against Calvert's ramshackle army. Loyalists from Westmoreland went south to support their brethren in Maryland. Calvert soon established his baronetcy in Maryland and occupied Delaware to secure his position, and receive his reward from Virginia.

The Ohio Country remained loyal to the Union, but was isolated, much like Rhode Island. In the South the Union lived on, and an agreement to make Franklinia a Federal District went smoothly. The Constitutional Convention continued in Georgia, and they agreed on terms to streamline administration in the Union. As the world enters the 19th century, the future of the Americas' first republic looked bleak.


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