Crusader Kings II - Paradox Entertainement (02/12)

[HellHound01]

Alright, I've got myself into a little situation...

I'm playing the "Wolfhelm" Dynasty of Leon, and I've ended up booting all my high level Nobels (The Counts) because they always ended up stabbing me in the back.

However now I'm left with a bunch of Titles that the game says I'll lose once my current King dies.

So what do I do? I don't want to give them to lower level Nobles for fear of revolt, but I don't want them all to fall to some random Uncle in France.

[Yonatan]

Originally Posted by HellHound01

Alright, I've got myself into a little situation...

I'm playing the "Wolfhelm" Dynasty of Leon, and I've ended up booting all my high level Nobels (The Counts) because they always ended up stabbing me in the back.

However now I'm left with a bunch of Titles that the game says I'll lose once my current King dies.

So what do I do? I don't want to give them to lower level Nobles for fear of revolt, but I don't want them all to fall to some random Uncle in France.

Open laws, change laws of succession so your oldest son inherits all titles.

or, simply give all extra titles to your heir.

[HellHound01]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

Open laws, change laws of succession so your oldest son inherits all titles.

or, simply give all extra titles to your heir.

Yeah, but I like the tax money, and troops that comes with personally owning all those lands.

Makes my goal of uniting Spain before 1230 easier.

[Yonatan]

Originally Posted by HellHound01

Yeah, but I like the tax money, and troops that comes with personally owning all those lands.

Makes my goal of uniting Spain before 1230 easier.

Well, you can keep it all for yourself and give it to your heir when you are old and dont expect to fight any more wars. it usually helps the new king if he starts with some extra titles beyond his demense limit, so he can give it to some vassals for extra opinion. it helps avoid the whole civil-war-upon-death-of-king thing which tends to happen almost after every king's death. I know from personal experience that uniting spain is a pain in the ass, but it can be done long before 1230. if you can unite castille, leon and galicia early with clever assasinations you get a massive headstart, otherwise you need to get them by war. after that you give courtiers conqured lands and try and minimise the power of your vassals.

A favorite tactic of mine is this: when you aquire new lands, take courties form your vassals, specifically thier marshals, stewards and spymasters, and give them the new titles. this will weaken your vassal's ability to fight you or plot against you without directly getting an opinion penalty.

Also, take thier children as your, or your heir's wards. this decreases chance of rebellion (since you have hostages) and also allows you to train the next generation of vassals. you get an opinion bonus from mentor, plus you get to set their traits, so you can prevent them from getting ambitious, greedy, envious, etc, while every positive trait they get that you also have will get you an extra opinion bonus.

[HellHound01]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

Well, you can keep it all for yourself and give it to your heir when you are old and dont expect to fight any more wars. it usually helps the new king if he starts with some extra titles beyond his demense limit, so he can give it to some vassals for extra opinion. it helps avoid the whole civil-war-upon-death-of-king thing which tends to happen almost after every king's death. I know from personal experience that uniting spain is a pain in the ass, but it can be done long before 1230. if you can unite castille, leon and galicia early with clever assasinations you get a massive headstart, otherwise you need to get them by war. after that you give courtiers conqured lands and try and minimise the power of your vassals.

A favorite tactic of mine is this: when you aquire new lands, take courties form your vassals, specifically thier marshals, stewards and spymasters, and give them the new titles. this will weaken your vassal's ability to fight you or plot against you without directly getting an opinion penalty.

Also, take thier children as your, or your heir's wards. this decreases chance of rebellion (since you have hostages) and also allows you to train the next generation of vassals. you get an opinion bonus from mentor, plus you get to set their traits, so you can prevent them from getting ambitious, greedy, envious, etc, while every positive trait they get that you also have will get you an extra opinion bonus.

I've got Galicia and Leon, Castille is going to be hard, about half of it was swallowed up by the Muslims.

Also great advice on the titles and wards. I never thought to give my rivals commanders land.

[Yonatan]

Originally Posted by HellHound01

I've got Galicia and Leon, Castille is going to be hard, about half of it was swallowed up by the Muslims.

Also great advice on the titles and wards. I never thought to give my rivals commanders land.

That's the fun part: you can give anyone in your kingdom land, regardless if he is family of a vassal, a courtier from a foriegn land, or even a lowborn nobody, even if they are courtiers of a vassals of a vassal (like someone in the court of a baron who is vassal to a count who is vassal to a duke who is vassal to you).

you have no idea how many powerfull dukes have been rendered to near impotance by having anyone with intrigue above 10 taken away from them

[HellHound01]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

That's the fun part: you can give anyone in your kingdom land, regardless if he is family of a vassal, a courtier from a foriegn land, or even a lowborn nobody, even if they are courtiers of a vassals of a vassal (like someone in the court of a baron who is vassal to a count who is vassal to a duke who is vassal to you).

you have no idea how many powerfull dukes have been rendered to near impotance by having anyone with intrigue above 10 taken away from them

I swear I can almost hear the Leon Nobility cursing you.

Also something, odd, after I took over Galicia, I ended up with a small province in Britain. Have no idea how.

Maybe I can use it to my advantage?

[Yonatan]

Originally Posted by HellHound01

I swear I can almost hear the Leon Nobility cursing you.

Also something, odd, after I took over Galicia, I ended up with a small province in Britain. Have no idea how.

Maybe I can use it to my advantage?

if its in britain then its okay, however you should know that counties far away from your capital get a distance penalty to opinion (unless of course its your county...) so keep it to yourself.

Also that is not the wierdest thing I have seen. once as the king of France I gave Egypt fresh after a crusade to my daughter's husband, who was a prince of Ireland. somehow, even tho I made sure to get the precise de jure borders of Egypt, they also had 1 county in russia....

It was a bit odd looing at the map and seeing the color of Egypt in the middle of russia...

[Cambyses The Mad]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

if its in britain then its okay, however you should know that counties far away from your capital get a distance penalty to opinion (unless of course its your county...) so keep it to yourself.

Also that is not the wierdest thing I have seen. once as the king of France I gave Egypt fresh after a crusade to my daughter's husband, who was a prince of Ireland. somehow, even tho I made sure to get the precise de jure borders of Egypt, they also had 1 county in russia....

It was a bit odd looing at the map and seeing the color of Egypt in the middle of russia...

Crusader Egypt is rather garish. I'm playing as King of it at the moment, and the horribleness of the colour is almost dissuading me from conquest.

Not quite though. Just took Mecca, which presumably should make every Muslim nation out to get me.

[Tyg]

Originally Posted by Cambyses The Mad

Not quite though. Just took Mecca, which presumably should make every Muslim nation out to get me.

You should make it a bishopric just for extra irony.

[Elessar267]

Originally Posted by Tyg

You should make it a bishopric just for extra irony.

I did that once, as Denmark (I was particularly successful in my crusades, and gave the kingdoms of Egypt and Jerusalem to my relatives). I managed to take the Hedjaz, and other choice parts of Arabia, and gave them to a relative, who made a Bishop of Mecca. Because I started construction on a bishopric in the region, though, before I gave the land to my relative (who proceeded to lose a war and go into exile in one of my vassals), the bishopric was finished AFTER the Arabs reconquered the land - meaning I got to keep one bishopric in the Hedjaz as part of Denmark until the end of the game (which was almost a century and a half!).

[Helios Ra]

Oh no. I'd hate to miss an AH-Paradox multiplayer game! I'm definitely interested, but I'd rather wait until after Sword of Islam and 1.06 are released.

[Ariosto]

Alright, I need to do some minor editing of one of my save files, but I have no idea where they are. Thought they would be with all the rest in the main Crusaders Kings II section but no dice, and I haven't had any luck looking anywhere else. Does anyone have any idea where they are being sent too?

[fortyseven]

Originally Posted by Ariosto

Alright, I need to do some minor editing of one of my save files, but I have no idea where they are. Thought they would be with all the rest in the main Crusaders Kings II section but no dice, and I haven't had any luck looking anywhere else. Does anyone have any idea where they are being sent too?

Run a defragger that lists files.

[PlayerOne]

Save games are in My Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings II\save games.

[HellHound01]

Well after over a week of play all I have to say is this.

FUCK YOU SPAIN, AND FUCK YOU MUSLIM KINGDOMS, AND A BIG FUCK YOU VASSALS!!!!!

Seriously? It seems that Christian Spain is really underpowered.

[Dr. Strangelove]

My Galician Empire when I got tired of this particular game. I had 98000 score, 12 regnal titles and an army bigger than the HRE and Byzantium combined:



My kings:

-Garcia II the Unready (1065-1117): Inherited Castile and Leon from his brothers when they killed each other in the battlefield, conquered Lisbon and Toledo from the muslims, married Agnés of Aquitaine, defeated France in 1115 to ensure his son inherited Aquitaine's lands.
-Garcia III the Wise (1117-1133, over Aquitaine since 1101). Turned Galicia into an iberian-occitan power when he added Aquitaine to his father's conquests.
-Garcia IV the Wise (1133-1163): his reign was hampered by the Galician Civil War of 1143-1151, when most dukes rebelled to Garcia's decision to institute primogeniture law. He helped his son Garcia of Aragon to reconquest Catalonia from the moors in 1155.
-Garcia V the Great (1163-1208, over Aragon since 1120): was king of Aragon for 88 years. Turned Galicia into a great european power. Conquered Catalonia, Valencia, Algarve, Cordoba, Mallorca and Brittany. His marriage with Peronelle of Burgundy added Burgundy and Berry to Galicia and was the nail in the Capetians' coffin.
-Garcia VI the Cruel (1208-1238, over Burgundy since 1197): ¿depravate impaler or champion of christendom? Added Burgundy and Berry to Galicia, the first frankish realms to do so. In the Fourth Crusade of 1214-1216 he became the first christian ruler to enter Jerusalem. However, the Kingdom of Jerusalem was granted to the Salians after some political wrangling (seriously, the crusades system makes no sense sometimes). Under his reign the Dukes of Valencia finished the Reconquista with the conquest of Murcia in 1232.
-Garcia VII the Great (1238-1296): conquered most of Northern Africa from 1260 on. His son's marriage to Karla of Lotharingia put the seeds to Galicia's final conquest of the frankish realms and to the Great War. Conquered Champagne and Orleans.
-Garcia VIII (1296-1338, over Lotharingia since 1280): as a vassal of the Holy Roman Emperor, he would have brought all of the Jimena's kingdom to the Empire. However, and remembering his great-grandfather's humiliation at Jerusalem, he refused to bow and began the Great War (1296-1301) that ended with the Empire's defeat and the kaiser's admittance of Galicia's independance. His kingdom now including all of the frankish lands, most of the Low Countries, Bavaria, Tuscany, Ferrara and even some counties east of the Rhine, he moved the capital from Santiago to Bordeaux. Conquered Tunis and Provence.
-Garcia IX the Brief (1338): he reigned for three months, seemingly unaware of the fact as he had been rendered uncapable shortly before. Thus began the Second Galician Civil War (1338-1347), during which all of Africa, Bavaria, Brittany and Lorraine would be lost and royal authority brought to the minimum.
-Thomas I the German (1338-1347): despised by everyone for being foreign (having been educated in his father's german court at Florence), he managed to keep what was left of his empire together and put an end to the civil war shortly before his premature death.
-Garcia X the Great (1347-1386): King since he was one year old, he survived a messy regency and then set upon restoring Garcia VIII's empire. Took Brittany back from Scotland, peacefully restored Lorraine and most of North Africa's back to the fold, conquered Provence and Ferrara back and almost succeeded in his bid to put a Jimena in the Sicilian throne.
-Garcia XI (1386-): was planning to take Rávena from the Venetian Republic, Flanders from the Empire and conquer the Republic of Munster that had unified Ireland two centuries before. His son Garcia XII would have inherited Cornwall and Normandie.

[Tyg]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

My Galician Empire when I got tired of this particular game. I had 98000 score, 12 regnal titles and an army bigger than the HRE and Byzantium combined:

That's a wildly successful Sicily! I'm surprised it managed that on its own, unless you were guiding/helping it along.

And is that a Venetian southern Italy? I rarely ever see Venice making much in the way of landgrabs of that sort.

[Kome]

Sword of Islam has been released! Huzzah!

[JJDXB]

Originally Posted by Tyg

That's a wildly successful Sicily! I'm surprised it managed that on its own, unless you were guiding/helping it along.

And is that a Venetian southern Italy? I rarely ever see Venice making much in the way of landgrabs of that sort.

In one of my games, they took over the Polish/Lithuanian coast. And southern Italy.