The Stars at Night: A Texas Timeline

[Tsao]

Interesting.......

[Lycaon pictus]

Is the French ambassador going to ask for Texas to send troops?

If so, Bickley can either refuse and kill the alliance dead, or he can say yes and make the German settlers very angry while leaving the army undermanned in the face of Mexico and the Comanches. And that's assuming the southern caudillos don't take up arms.

Nice choice. And considering the sort of choices Bickley has been making so far…

Originally Posted by Space Oddity

And so, disaster looms...

Actually, "looms" is an understatement. Disaster walks up to your front door, busts its way in and sits on your couch, chuckling to itself, while wearing a large name tag that reads "Hello, I'm Disaster! Ask me about my upcoming catastrophe!"

Man, if this were only a few characters shorter I would sig the hell out of it.

[Arachnid]

Originally Posted by Space Oddity

Actually, "looms" is an understatement. Disaster walks up to your front door, busts its way in and sits on your couch, chuckling to itself, while wearing a large name tag that reads "Hello, I'm Disaster! Ask me about my upcoming catastrophe!"

That got me laughing almost as much as the update. Anyway good update and good to see that things are happening outside North America.

By the way what is the state of British trade with Texas. I find it hard to imagine that they would have just left the playing field bare for France even if troops and forts isn't on the cards.

[Rooster Cogburn]

[Gets on computer, sees new update, screams like small girl, faints, wakes up several hours later in a daze, sees new update again, actually reads it] Love it!!! Can't wait to see Prussia bulldoze over France!

[metastasis_d]

Is everything in Europe as OTL as far as borders?

[Nicksplace27]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

Is everything in Europe as OTL as far as borders?

There has to be some butterflies especially with the POD being a far different Frenhc foriegn policy.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nicksplace27

There has to be some butterflies especially with the POD being a far different Frenhc foriegn policy.

I agree, of course there are going to be plenty of butterflies. I was just wondering if anything has been changed enough to affect any European borders specifically.

[Nicksplace27]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

I agree, of course there are going to be plenty of butterflies. I was just wondering if anything has been changed enough to affect any European borders specifically.

Well, the Crimean War may not be affected; but maybe the Austro-Prussian War might be affected.

The biggest effect will probably be the Franco-Prussian War. The only reason why France lost so badly was becuase of thier failed adventure in Mexico. ITTL, this isn't the case...

The formation of Germany will be radically different in this TL.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nicksplace27

Well, the Crimean War may not be affected; but maybe the Austro-Prussian War might be affected.

The biggest effect will probably be the Franco-Prussian War. The only reason why France lost so badly was becuase of thier failed adventure in Mexico. ITTL, this isn't the case...

The formation of Germany will be radically different in this TL.

Which could radically change the immigration to the American republics.

[Errnge]

Texan involvement in the Franco-Prussian War!

O BABY!

[Herr Frage]

Originally Posted by Errnge

Texan involvement in the Franco-Prussian War!

O BABY!

Texas doesn't reven have soldiers enough to handle its own affairs. Which doesn't mean they won't overreach themselves, but why to help France?

A deal to aid France now in exchange for all forts being turned over? Napoleon III looking to bet bought out on the Texan venture?

[The Celt]

Good relations with Napoleon III could have major economic benefits down the road; Napoleon III was a huge believer in railroads and greatly expanded their use in France. If that belief was to rub off on the Texans it could have very positive economic effects, as East, West and South of the country become far more interconnected. Railroads from the Eastern ports out to the South could be very positive for industry, and expedition of the railroads out west could fuel desire for expansion of the nation westward towards San Francisco.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by The Celt

Good relations with Napoleon III could have major economic benefits down the road; Napoleon III was a huge believer in railroads and greatly expanded their use in France. If that belief was to rub off on the Texans it could have very positive economic effects, as East, West and South of the country become far more interconnected. Railroads from the Eastern ports out to the South could be very positive for industry, and expedition of the railroads out west could fuel desire for expansion of the nation westward towards San Francisco.

Hm... this could be especially significant if Texas ends up with 2 coasts...

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

Hm... this could be especially significant if Texas ends up with 2 coasts...

I still have my fingers crossed for this outcome

[Strategos' Risk]

The concept of North American expeditionary forces fighting in Europe pre-WWI, regardless which nation doing so, is very fascinating.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

Hm... this could be especially significant if Texas ends up with 2 coasts...

The scary thing is that even with all of Texas's problems it is still more organized than the area to its south and west.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by naraht

The scary thing is that even with all of Texas's problems it is still more organized than the area to its south and west.

Sounds like they could use some "assistance" in managing those areas.

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by naraht

The scary thing is that even with all of Texas's problems it is still more organized than the area to its south and west.

And with the Lee Administration's main focus bringing the North and South back together, I doubt they'll pay attention to anything going on west of the Mississippi.

Which bears the question: did Lee win a second term?

[The Celt]

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

And with the Lee Administration's main focus bringing the North and South back together, I doubt they'll pay attention to anything going on west of the Mississippi.

The problem is though is that San Francisco around this era in OTL was positively booming following the 1849 gold rush. By 1870 it was being referred to as the Paris of West. Now, I don't think the issue of San Francisco has been brought up yet in this narrative tey, but if the 1849 gold rush has happened, one of four things is probably going on happen:
1. Mexico tightens it's grip on San Francisco seeing how valuable it is
2. The USA makes a move on it since the bulk of San Francisco is made up of US citizens
3. Texas makes a move towards San Francisco (something I could see under the current government
4. A Californian Republic emerges from people looking to secure San Francisco's wealth for "San Franciscans"

A city that wealthy is going to be on the minds of everyone in North America, should it occur.

[Errnge]

Originally Posted by The Celt

The problem is though is that San Francisco around this era in OTL was positively booming following the 1849 gold rush. By 1870 it was being referred to as the Paris of West. Now, I don't think the issue of San Francisco has been brought up yet in this narrative tey, but if the 1849 gold rush has happened, one of four things is probably going on happen:
1. Mexico tightens it's grip on San Francisco seeing how valuable it is
2. The USA makes a move on it since the bulk of San Francisco is made up of US citizens
3. Texas makes a move towards San Francisco (something I could see under the current government
4. A Californian Republic emerges from people looking to secure San Francisco's wealth for "San Franciscans"

A city that wealthy is going to be on the minds of everyone in North America, should it occur.

ITTL the USA already has California, so that's that