Maps showing alternate US states appear quite often in the map thread and elsewhere, but alternate Canadian provinces and territories are more unusual. So, what possibilities are there for different divisions of Canada?
Alternate Canadian Provinces/Territories
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Vancouver Island.
Franklin Territory (the arctic islands) and Keewatin (sic) Territory.
A seperate Labrador Territory?
Franklin Territory (the arctic islands) and Keewatin (sic) Territory.
A seperate Labrador Territory?
In the early 1900's there was a proposal to create a Province of Buffalo (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Buffalo). It would have combined Alberta with the western half of Saskatchewan, while Saskatchewan's eastern half would have been annexed to Manitoba. However, Frederick Haultain (premier of the Northwest Territories) had frosty relationships with the federal government, so the idea was dropped.
There was also a serious proposal to create the provinces of Assiniboine and Athabasca out of what became Alberta and Saskatchewan. Assiniboine was basically the prairie portion and Athabasca was the northern forest...the idea was shot down due to the belief that the forested north would not be able to attract settlers so they drew the lines north south.
Also lots of appeals to change the existing boundaries....
NE BC (aka little Alberta) has requested before to be added to Alberta
Kenora (was known as Rat Portage) requested to join Manitoba. At one point Manitoba and Ontario police were arresting each other.
Also lots of appeals to change the existing boundaries....
NE BC (aka little Alberta) has requested before to be added to Alberta
Kenora (was known as Rat Portage) requested to join Manitoba. At one point Manitoba and Ontario police were arresting each other.
Without looking it up, IIRC the southern province would have the Qu'appelle and South Saskatchewan rivers; the northern the North Saskatchewan (well, and the Churchill, but that's not useful for settlement)
IIRC, Edmonton and Prince Albert would have been in the northern province, and Calgary, Saskatoon and Regina in the southern one.
How's this: Canadian PM Sir Robert Borden convinces the Canadian public of the advantages of taking on new territory. After WWI, Borden and British PM Lloyd George strike a deal to put all British colonies in the New World under Canadian governance, a la Aussie and Kiwi takeovers of the Pacific territories. Some of the new possessions enter as territories (like the Falklands, British Honduras and Bermuda), but Canada gains 6 new provinces: Barbados, Bahamas, Jamaica, Antilles (St. Lucia, Dominica, Montserrat, Antigua, Barbuda, Anguilla, St. Kitts, Nevis, the BVI, Grenada, St. Vincent and the Grenadines), Trinidad and Tobago, and Newfoundland.
Or is that too unrealistic?
Or is that too unrealistic?
Well, that'd give us a reason to keep our navy.
But it's hard to achieve and harder to keep it that way.
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Whoever said Vancouver Island - I fully agree, that was a real possiblity.
I think so! what about keeping Rupert's land around in half of Nunavut?
I would however, like to see Yaraday's scenario work. Canada!
The idea of Northern Ontario splitting off from the south comes up periodically.
Most of the provinces could have gotten different names by chance, simply if the first have a slightly different conversation with the natives that they meet, meet someone else, or some guy records something different in their journal. At this point for instance, they don't even know what the word "Manitoba" means, or where exactly it came from.
Most of the provinces could have gotten different names by chance, simply if the first have a slightly different conversation with the natives that they meet, meet someone else, or some guy records something different in their journal. At this point for instance, they don't even know what the word "Manitoba" means, or where exactly it came from.
Probably something to do with the Great Spirit and the failed (well, suppressed) Metis/Cree state.
You're right with the Great Spirit. See this document from the Manitoba government: http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/louis_riel/pdf/origin_mb_name.pdf
It certainly is possible, but in the case of the Caribbean (which was the original design - Newfoundland was a separate Dominion, and thus wouldn't count), I would actually foresee a split into 6 new provinces, minus Newfoundland, as:
*Jamaica (plus the Cayman and Turks and Caicos Islands)
*The Bahamas
*Barbados
*Trinidad & Tobago
*the Windward Islands: Grenada, St Vincent and the Grenadines, and St Lucia
*Dominica (in OTL, Dominica was part of the Leeward Islands until 1940 - in TTL, since it is between two provinces, it would be allowed to be independent, like neighbouring Barbados)
*the Leeward Islands: Saint Christopher, Nevis, Anguilla, Montserrat, the Virgin Islands, Antigua, and Barbuda
*Bermuda: Maybe as a territory, but would eventually become a province
*As for the Falklands, the SGSSI, Belize, etc. - ASB. Not gonna happen. The Caribbean and Bermuda, however, are more plausible.
National Capital region has been mentioned on wiki, but it would have to be done ages before Quebec's borders matter.
The district of Ungava became a province and is not annexed by Quebec, and by the North-West Territories in respect of the islands in Hudson Bay:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Ungava .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Ungava .
IMO, if Britain's Caribbean possesions where transfered to Canada they might be treated as external/non-integral territories and possibly later given independence by the Canadian government. Similar to the situation with the Australian and New Zealand external territories (Papua New Guinea, Norfolk Island, Tokelau etc).
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