A World Of Laughter, A World Of Tears

[Fenrir_Angerboda]

Originally Posted by statichaos

The second one.

that was pretty low on my list of guesses.
once you said vertigo that clinched it.

[Archangel]

Jerry Brown's confinement is a proof that the Disney Administration is using methods typical of dictatorships.
Rockefeller is sanest option for the Republican Party. Goldwater might win in TTL political climate (TTL politics are considerably to the right), but the improvement would be limited.

Originally Posted by statichaos

"Then fight those bastards. Fight them with every weapon in your arsenal. Go back to school, organize effectively, and make sure that they can never do this to you, to me, or to any other American ever again. I've been dealing with these buffoons from the inside, thinking that with enough arm-twisting and legislation that I could get them to see reason, or at least to sit down and shut up. I was wrong. Or at least if I was close to the truth, you were that much closer."

He leaned in on the conference table, his voice dropping to a low murmur. "They keep on saying that it can't get worse. Nonsense. 'First they came for the Jews' and all that. Hell, now they're coming for the Jews, and if that fool Cohn doesn't see it, then he's going to be the first one against the wall when the time comes. Son, it can always get worse, and I fear deep within my heart that we have only seen the prologue to this tragedy. It will take you, your friends, and millions like you to turn this country around again.

This means Rockwell's career won't be over soon.

Originally Posted by statichaos

"You must be one of the good guys, son, because there are far too many of the bad. And the bad are in control. Even if you manage to stay out of their asylums and prisons, the next several years of your life will be a living hell. Just remember: Keep focused on your goal, believe in the dream of America, and know that there are things worth fighting for. And if you find yourself despairing, or at the end of the rope, then there is one final thing that I want you to remember: You are my son, and I am proud of you."

He turned and stormed out of the room, opening the door to the endless flashes and pops of the cameras of the press.

-Liberation: A Memoir, Former President Jerry Brown

This is the kind of inspiration that will give strength to Jerry Brown in the upcoming years.

[Underboss_3]

It's probably still too soon for his debut in this timeline, but I'm interested as to how Hunter S Thompson (The E Howard Hunt picture reminded me of him. haha) would react to the state of affairs in the US.

[statichaos]

Originally Posted by Underboss_3

It's probably still too soon for his debut in this timeline, but I'm interested as to how Hunter S Thompson (The E Howard Hunt picture reminded me of him. haha) would react to the state of affairs in the US.

The idea's been addressed previously, but I'm still frightened of what aping his writing style would do to those few shards of sanity I still cling to so tenaciously.

[Geekhis Khan]

Originally Posted by Underboss_3

It's probably still too soon for his debut in this timeline, but I'm interested as to how Hunter S Thompson (The E Howard Hunt picture reminded me of him. haha) would react to the state of affairs in the US.

It's about the time he'd be writing Hells Angels OTL.

Stat, I invite you again to practice with a GSOT or two if you think it'd help.

[Underboss_3]

Originally Posted by statichaos

The idea's been addressed previously, but I'm still frightened of what aping his writing style would do to those few shards of sanity I still cling to so tenaciously.

Bah! Sanity's overrated.

[Readman]

A Plumber in charge of foreign policy? whoaa nelly! Congrats again on Epic work stat! Keep it comin'!

[Captain Brooks]

Anyone here want to try and spruce up this timeline's entry on TVTropes. I've been bored, so I've been adding tropes to the page. Anyone think they can come up with a better description?

[truth is life]

Originally Posted by statichaos

"We came up with the Sandstorm thing on the spur of the moment. People thought that the masks were just a gimmick, but seriously, we didn't want our father to find out that we were playing radical student benefits behind his back, and he had eyes everywhere. Had to even change our sound to a European jazz/rock one, but we never completely lost that barbershop sound."

-Brain Wilson, quoted in Sounds Of Summer, David Jones, 1979

...You did not seriously make the barbershop quartet a radical and outlaw sound, did you? DID YOU?
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Well, if anything drives home how dystopian this US is, that's it.

[The Vulture]

Okay, here's the lowdown:

I decided to take a look at this TL (I keep meaning to read all the major TLs on this site, but I don't often have much time) and ending up reading the whole thing, all 36 pages, in one sitting, only taking a break long enough to rest my eye, strained from staring at the screen.

I actually started slapping the desk and screaming curses at my laptop when Rockwell (a historical figure I too find horrible yet fascinating) became a Senator.

Not only is this one of the most compelling ATLs I have ever read, but it is one of the most compelling pieces of fiction I have ever read.

So well done, man. Well done indeed.

One quick question: What of Rockwell's OTL protege, Matthias Koehl? He would've been 24 or 25 around now, perhaps he could be an aid to Rockwell or something?

[Fenrir_Angerboda]

Originally Posted by truth is life

...You did not seriously make the barbershop quartet a radical and outlaw sound, did you? DID YOU?

well Astro city has the Sweet Adelines, a Gang made up of Barbershop singers.....

[Geekhis Khan]

Originally Posted by truth is life

...You did not seriously make the barbershop quartet a radical and outlaw sound, did you? DID YOU?
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Well, if anything drives home how dystopian this US is, that's it.

If anything drives home how dystopian this TL is to me it's the fact that Stat has me saying "Yea! Go Roy Cohn!"

[Arachnid]

Exactly you've made me go from thinking that Ray Cohn was the Devil to the great hope of America, the one man who can hold back the true nutters, and if Ray Cohn is you're only hope the you are well and truly screwed.

[Aranfan]

Heh. I will cheer for Roy Cohn if he's punching George Lincoln Rockwell in the face.

But yeah, Roy went from main bad guy to a bulwark against the bad guys. It's crazy, and a sign of excellent that the transition is believable.

[Lord Roem]

I'm posting my latest vlog here on the grounds that it contains a promo for this very time line.

Enjoy chaps!

[Snarf]

Originally Posted by Aranfan

Heh. I will cheer for Roy Cohn if he's punching George Lincoln Rockwell in the face.

But yeah, Roy went from main bad guy to a bulwark against the bad guys. It's crazy, and a sign of excellent that the transition is believable.

It's a lot like finding out that Darth Vader was really working for the Rebellion, undermining the Empire from the inside (which was my theory all along until the damn prequels )

[Aranfan]

Not really. Remember that Beano is in an asylum because of Cohn's stunt with Oswald. It currently seems a fight between bad guys, with one side less being slightly less bad than the others. It's more like the USSR was the main bad guy until Hitler showed up.


Huh, throw in a Nazi and even the old bad guys start to look good in comparison.

[Wyragen-TXRG4P]

Originally Posted by Aranfan

Huh, throw in a Nazi and even the old bad guys start to look good in comparison.

And that is how Hitler came to power in the first place, because there was (of course) only one person who could even hope to hold back the true nutters from taking power and turning the streets into rivers of blood.

Originally Posted by theReturner

I wonder what will happen to Disney, both the company and the man himself. maybe they really will bury him underneath Pirates Of The Carribbean to stop people from vandalising his grave?

Ín retrospective, why would president Disney be seem as the big bad? His sucessor could well be far worst, the man that makes the patriotic act look like a civil rights bill...

Rockwell is, by far, not likely to win any presidency unless something truly cataclysmic occures, no problems there.
He would be potentially usefull still, he would single handely make the new administration looks good.
He would effectively divide its opposition in two irreconciliable blocs.

1) Let opposition groups fight pitched street battles.
2) Denounce and represse its factions as" crazed extremists who would destroy our precious Way of Life".
3) Gain public credibility for "restoring peace".

[Arachnid]

Hitler did not come to power because people thought he was the only man who could hold back the nutters he came to power due to a combination of Hindenburg thinking he could co-opt the Nazi's and the centre parties being discredited.

Disney will have a v. bad rep for his second term, his first term actually went okay but presiding over a race war is going to scupper your reputation, no matter who comes out on top, either for "allowing them nigra's to git out of hand" or presiding over the brutal suppression of the civil rights movement.

[Historico]

I am so torn over who would be getting my vote ITTL, but here are my favorite Candidates...


Senator John F. "Jack" Kennedy of Massaschusetts


Governor Nelson A. "Rocky" Rockefeller of New York